Inca Artillery N Stuff

[Kaiser Kirk]

Greetings.

Maddox has specified somethings about the Inca Prebuild.
1. Fleet sped about 16knots.
2. Cruise speed >10knots, the speed of the Humboldt Current.
3. Range to protect commerce to the overland routes in Central America : 3,600nm
4. Seakeeping will need to be good.

Oldest vessels are sailing brigs of about 3000 tons with bronze guns.  I have offered the design of Parthian armored frigates as a baseline, and will adapt them into Inca vessels.
I will also see if I can make a reasonable version of the 1885 Admiral Nakhimov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Admiral_Nakhimov_(1885)
For the Pacific, these actually make sense, much as the Windjammers were still profitable - unhindered by coaling range, they can roam the seas.

Later,
Torpedo gunboats : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_warship_Destructor
Coast defense ships (such as Kuk Monarch class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch-class_coastal_defense_ship)

and then


torpedo boat destroyers : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_destroyer_Carquois
small cruisers : 3-4500 tons
coast defense ships : 6-9000tons
armored cruisers : 6-9000tons

My intent is to
post the  lay-down date, parameters, and ask for folks to try their hands at designs.

The Artillery proposed for use is as follows.

For Comment.
Maddox has specified the Bronze

Artillery of the Incas

The Inca use weaponry inspired by the original time line French guns.

1885 Technology

In this period the Inca fielded Bronze Guns. Historically expensive, the Andes are rich in copper, allowing cheaper bronze.  Bronze is 10% heavier than steel, but tougher, easier to cast, work, lower friction, and less prone to fouling, corrosion and saltwater.  Historically bronze used in cannon was called Admiralty Gunmetal. Bronze is 10% heavier than steel, so these guns are modeled as 10% longer (45cal->50cal, 50cal->55cal) than their historic steel version. 'b' indicates bronze.

1888  65/55 B   M C
1888  139/50 B  M C
1887  160/50 B  M C
1887  190/50 B  M C  1T  2T
1887  274/50 B  B  C 1T  2T

1897 Technology
Quickfiring technology came into practice in this time frame.  Bronze wears easier than steel, and has a lower melting point, making it wear faster with higher velocities and rates of fire, rendering it unsuited for the smaller QF pieces.

1902   65/50 QF   M C
1899 139/45 QF   M C
1902 165/45 QF   M C  1T
1899 194/45 B     M C  1T  2T
1899 274/50 B     1T  2T   166t /  270t
1902 240/55 B     1T  2T

1900 Technology
with smokeless power, muzzle velocities increased, and fouling and corrosion decreased, leading to all steel guns entering service at all bores

1904    65/50  QF    M   MH  C
1906  100/45  QF    M   MH  C
1904  139/45  QF    M  2M 1MH 2MH  C
1906  165/45  QF    M  1MH 2MH  C  1T
1904  194/45  M  1MH  C  1T 2T
1906  240/41  1T  2T   103t/165t - Twin can replace single 274mm bronze gun


1905: Improved Smokeless Powder. Armor Piercing Shells
The improvements would simply see a new round of guns in 1909
with which the older mounts could be refitted.
There were important improvements in turret hydraulics and gearing in this period that
enabled continuous aiming for guns ~255mm and less, and improvements for larger weapons.
1909    65/50  QF    M   MH  C
1909  100/45  QF    M   MH  C
1909  139/45  QF    M  2M 1MH 2MH  C
1909  165/45  QF    M  1MH 2MH  C  1T
1910  194/45  M  1MH  C  1T 2T
1910  240/41  1T  2T   103t/165t - Twin can replace single 274mm bronze gun
1909  305/41  1T  2T  166t/270t - can replace single/twin 274mm bronze guns.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Setting the Inca for Maddox :

The Inca are one of the smaller NPCs and far from any real powers.
The closest are the Maya, over a thousand nautical miles away.
Without the United States and other historical nations, trade around the straits of Magellan is lessened.

Visits by foreign navies would have only occurred on rare occasions. For example, Parthia lists one of her sailing frigates as lost in the straits of Magellan.

Maddox has specified that there are no flashy vessels, that the older ships are sailing and equipped with bronze main guns. Further, coal is still the fuel used, oil having just recently started being found.

Overall the vessels would pose a challenge to most navies.  Virtually any hostile nation would be operating far from their bases or support.
The Incan The coast defense ships and torpedo boats can come out from the coastal harbors and forts at will, the protected cruisers are competitive with all but the newest ships, while the 14 sailing craft have tremendous range and are (no smoke) more difficult to spot, and are fairly well armed.

As such the naval list is as follows (and attached)

1893 : Two Coast Defense Ships : 2x 8,000t,  refurbished, re-engined  and rearmed 1909. Loosely based on OTL Monarch Class

1894 : 10 Sailing armored Frigates : 10x 3000 : refurbished, re-engined  and rearmed 1909. (I used the Parthian design as a basis)

1899 : 4 Sailing armored Cruisers, Windjammers : 4x 4500 : Refurbished and rearmed 1909.

1902 : 3 protected cruisers : 3x 6000 : refurbished 1910.

1904 : 3 protected cruisers : 3 x 4000 : refurbished 1911 (fire control).

1905 : 24 turbine-powered torpedo boats : 24 x 250

1906 : 2 Coast Defense ships : 2x 6000 : refurbished 1909(fire control)

1911 : 12 turbine-powered torpedo boats : 12x 250

Per Maddox, the Inca are rolling over the final HY production to 1912.5.

There is a little extra tonnage left unbuilt, but not significant.

[Kaiser Kirk]

This is the 1893 Coast Defense ship as built. The guns are historic French, turned into bronze. The bronze guns were modeled as being 5 calibers (10%) longer, but the shell weights were that of the correct length.

Two of these were made, essentially replacing the OTL Huscar and it's ilk.
For 1893, it would be a fairly redoubtable coastal battleship.

Catequil, Inca Coast Defense Ship laid down 1893

Displacement:
   7,997 t light; 8,420 t standard; 9,247 t normal; 9,908 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (360.89 ft / 354.33 ft) x 62.34 ft x (22.97 / 24.35 ft)
   (110.00 m / 108.00 m) x 19.00 m  x (7.00 / 7.42 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10.79" / 274 mm 50.0 cal guns - 617.29lbs / 280.00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1887 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 50.0 cal guns - 85.98lbs / 39.00kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1888 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,263 lbs / 1,480 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.4" / 265 mm   230.31 ft / 70.20 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   123.98 ft / 37.79 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   230.31 ft / 70.20 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks: 2.76" / 70 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.77" / 45 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8.66" / 220 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 7,070 ihp / 5,274 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 3,610nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,488 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   470 - 612

Cost:
   £0.778 million / $3.113 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 784 tons, 8.5 %
   Armour: 3,344 tons, 36.2 %
      - Belts: 1,926 tons, 20.8 %
      - Armament: 555 tons, 6.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 781 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 82 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,334 tons, 14.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,395 tons, 25.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,249 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 140 tons, 1.5 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull void weights: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,835 lbs / 5,368 Kg = 18.9 x 10.8 " / 274 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 12.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.60

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.638 / 0.645
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.68 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 31
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 89.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,735 Square feet or 1,555 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 117 lbs/sq ft or 569 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.07
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Using SMS Wien as a base,
expanding to allow the Incan bronze 274mm guns,
and adapting for the correct speed and range.
Unclear if the 139mm should be deck mounts or superstructure casements, went with casements per capital ship architecture.

The lack of freeboard keeps these from being deep ocean vessels,
which is acceptable as they are meant as coastal defense.




40t - underwater tubes and torpedoes


Decks :

+4.0m  Weather/Battery Deck
+1.5m   Protective Deck, Top Main Belt
-1.00m  2nd Deck, bottom main belt.
-3.50m  1st Deck
-6.70m  Engineering

[Kaiser Kirk]

This is the vessel as refurbish/reengined/rearmed in 1909.

Catequil R1909, Inca Coast Defense Ship laid down 1893 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   7,997 t light; 8,420 t standard; 9,247 t normal; 9,908 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (360.89 ft / 354.33 ft) x 62.34 ft x (22.97 / 24.35 ft)
   (110.00 m / 108.00 m) x 19.00 m  x (7.00 / 7.42 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 41.0 cal guns - 881.85lbs / 400.00kg shells, 84 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 50.0 cal guns - 85.98lbs / 39.00kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,321 lbs / 1,960 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.4" / 265 mm   230.31 ft / 70.20 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   123.98 ft / 37.79 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   230.31 ft / 70.20 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks: 2.76" / 70 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.77" / 45 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8.66" / 220 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 11,165 ihp / 8,329 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 4,700nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,488 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   470 - 612

Cost:
   £0.727 million / $2.907 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 801 tons, 8.7 %
   Armour: 3,400 tons, 36.8 %
      - Belts: 1,926 tons, 20.8 %
      - Armament: 611 tons, 6.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 781 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 82 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 859 tons, 9.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,692 tons, 29.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,249 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 246 tons, 2.7 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull void weights: 100 tons
      - Above deck: 106 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,875 lbs / 6,293 Kg = 16.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.24

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.638 / 0.645
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.68 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 89.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,735 Square feet or 1,555 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 629 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 2.32
      - Overall: 1.02
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Using SMS Wien as a base,
expanding to allow the Incan bronze 274mm guns,
and adapting for the correct speed and range.
Unclear if the 139mm should be deck mounts or superstructure casements, went with casements per capital ship architecture.

The lack of freeboard keeps these from being deep ocean vessels,
which is acceptable as they are meant as coastal defense.


Decks :

+4.0m  Weather/Battery Deck
+1.5m   Protective Deck, Top Main Belt
-1.00m  2nd Deck, bottom main belt.
-3.50m  1st Deck
-6.70m  Engineering

1909 Refurbishment
Class : 1893 CDS
Original :
Engine : 1334
Fuel bunkerage : 827
Main battery wieght : 270t
Main Magazine weight : 165 ton

Items replaced :
Engine : 859t
Main Battery: Upgraded to 1908 305/41,  270t x 2 : 540t
Second Battery : Upgraded to 1904 139/45 QF, 95t (-3t)
Tertiary : Upgraded to 1904 65/50 QF, 19t
1905 Fire Control Added : 81t
Long Range Radio Added : 25t

Total :1.775 BP.

[Kaiser Kirk]

This is the sailing frigate. The refurbished version is below.

Kon, Incan Armored Frigate laid down 1894

Displacement:
   2,999 t light; 3,187 t standard; 3,395 t normal; 3,560 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (330.78 ft / 328.08 ft) x 42.65 ft x (13.12 / 13.67 ft)
   (100.82 m / 100.00 m) x 13.00 m  x (4.00 / 4.17 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.48" / 190 mm 45.0 cal guns - 207.23lbs / 94.00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1887 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 50.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      Weight of broadside 1,481 lbs / 672 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.77" / 45 mm   236.22 ft / 72.00 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.98" / 25 mm     91.83 ft / 27.99 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 111 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.18" / 30 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.54" / 90 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,883 ihp / 2,897 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 373 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   222 - 289

Cost:
   £0.281 million / $1.125 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 251 tons, 7.4 %
   Armour: 528 tons, 15.5 %
      - Belts: 251 tons, 7.4 %
      - Armament: 30 tons, 0.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 230 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 726 tons, 21.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 928 tons, 27.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 396 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 566 tons, 16.7 %
      - Hull below water: 234 tons
      - Hull void weights: 80 tons
      - Hull above water: 110 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 102 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,028 lbs / 1,827 Kg = 19.2 x 7.5 " / 190 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 91 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.82

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.647 / 0.652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.69 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Aft deck:   52.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.66 ft / 3.86 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,690 Square feet or 993 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 337 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.48
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

The oldest of the Incan vessels, these combined sail and steam and mounted bronze guns.

With a full rig, this vessel could do 11 knots at a cost 125 above deck, 249 below deck

This vessel is full rigged
The full rigging, the modest bunker  and small size / draft means the vessel can have nearly unlimited range, calling on any anchorage world wide. All while not belching a cloud of coal smoke on the horizon.   The opposition is not expected to field substantive forces, but the combination of guns does make this vessel capable of combatting most protective cruisers of the time successfully.


The bronze guns are an Incan feature, made economical by their extensive copper deposits. Bronze guns are heavier (modeled as +5 calibers) but have many advantages over iron or early steel guns.
These ships have four heavy 190mm main guns mounted in deck-edge casements allow both fore/aft fire, and 2 gun broadside fire. This in combo with the 4-gun batteries of 139mm guns gives it the ability to fight off the typical  cruisers of the world.

Armor :
The citadel is expanded fore/aft 12m (adjusted bow/stern %) to ensure critical systems fit below.

A protective deck, crowning at +1.42m and descending to -1.06m is fitted.
The deck has a 30mm crown, and 75mm slopes (the main belt ) at the citadel, and 25mm crown with 50mm slopes the rest of the length of the ship.

The hull is sheathed with Munz metal.

Decks :
+3.86
+1.42
-1.02
-3.82

Miscellaneous Weight :
204 below : Masts
30 below : 2 bow torpedo tubes, 20 16" torpedoes, sited below protective deck
(234)

50 in hull : quarters for Marine Section : 25 men
60 in hull : Extra supplies
(110)

40 on deck : 2 x 10t motor launch
(40)

102 Above deck : Sails
(102)

Void : 80t excess

"half hull speed = 5% normal displacement weight, every additional knot = +1% normal displacement weight, every additional knot above hull speed = +2% normal displacement weight"

This is the alternate means of calculating sailing rig.
Half Hull Speed : 9.055
With a normal of  3,395  a 1/2 hull speed (9.055kts) costs : 169.75t
For every additional +1  knot the cost is 67.9t
10kts : 237.65
11kts : 305.55    204 below, 102 above
12kts : 373.45    249 below, 125 above
13kts : 441.35
Split 2/3 below, 1/3 above

Refurbished Version

Kon, Incan Armored Frigate laid down 1894 (Engine 1907)

Displacement:
   2,996 t light; 3,188 t standard; 3,395 t normal; 3,560 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (330.78 ft / 328.08 ft) x 42.65 ft x (13.12 / 13.67 ft)
   (100.82 m / 100.00 m) x 13.00 m  x (4.00 / 4.17 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.64" / 194 mm 50.0 cal guns - 220.46lbs / 100.00kg shells, 112 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides forward
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 50.0 cal guns - 85.98lbs / 39.00kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      Weight of broadside 1,570 lbs / 712 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.77" / 45 mm   236.22 ft / 72.00 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.98" / 25 mm     91.83 ft / 27.99 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 111 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.18" / 30 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.54" / 90 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,073 ihp / 4,531 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 1,980nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 373 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   222 - 289

Cost:
   £0.285 million / $1.140 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 285 tons, 8.4 %
   Armour: 528 tons, 15.5 %
      - Belts: 251 tons, 7.4 %
      - Armament: 30 tons, 0.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 230 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 675 tons, 19.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 923 tons, 27.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 399 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 585 tons, 17.2 %
      - Hull below water: 234 tons
      - Hull void weights: 45 tons
      - Hull above water: 110 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 156 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,109 lbs / 1,864 Kg = 18.4 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.63

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.647 / 0.652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.69 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Aft deck:   52.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m,  12.66 ft / 3.86 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.66 ft / 3.86 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,690 Square feet or 993 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 342 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.50
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Refurbished 1907 :

Original Engines : 726
Original Bunkerage : 207
Original Main Btty : 123
Original Main Magz :55

As refurbished :
New Engines : 675
New Bunkerage : same
Trade 190mm Bronze for 194mm Bronze : 153t
1905 Fire Control : 29 t
LR Radio : 25t
Total : 882t

The second oldest of the Incan vessels, these combined sail and steam and mounted bronze guns.

With a full rig, this vessel could do 11 knots at a cost 125 above deck, 249 below deck

This vessel is full rigged
The full rigging, the modest bunker  and small size / draft means the vessel can have nearly unlimited range, calling on any anchorage world wide. All while not belching a cloud of coal smoke on the horizon.   The opposition is not expected to field substantive forces, but the combination of guns does make this vessel capable of combatting most protective cruisers of the time successfully.


The bronze guns are an Incan feature, made economical by their extensive copper deposits. Bronze guns are heavier (modeled as +5 calibers) but have many advantages over iron or early steel guns.
These ships have four heavy 190mm main guns mounted in deck-edge casements allow both fore/aft fire, and 2 gun broadside fire. This in combo with the 4-gun batteries of 139mm guns gives it the ability to fight off the typical  cruisers of the world.

Armor :
The citadel is expanded fore/aft 12m (adjusted bow/stern %) to ensure critical systems fit below.

A protective deck, crowning at +1.42m and descending to -1.06m is fitted.
The deck has a 30mm crown, and 75mm slopes (the main belt ) at the citadel, and 25mm crown with 50mm slopes the rest of the length of the ship.

The hull is sheathed with Munz metal.

Decks :
+3.86
+1.42
-1.02
-3.82

Miscellaneous Weight :
204 below : Masts
30 below : 2 bow torpedo tubes, 20 16" torpedoes, sited below protective deck
(234)

50 in hull : quarters for Marine Section : 25 men
60 in hull : Extra supplies
(110)

40 on deck : 2 x 10t motor launch
(40)

102 Above deck : Sails
(102)

Void : 80t excess

"half hull speed = 5% normal displacement weight, every additional knot = +1% normal displacement weight, every additional knot above hull speed = +2% normal displacement weight"

This is the alternate means of calculating sailing rig.
Half Hull Speed : 9.055
With a normal of  3,395  a 1/2 hull speed (9.055kts) costs : 169.75t
For every additional +1  knot the cost is 67.9t
10kts : 237.65
11kts : 305.55    204 below, 102 above
12kts : 373.45    249 below, 125 above
13kts : 441.35
Split 2/3 below, 1/3 above

[Kaiser Kirk]

The Sailing Windjammer Cruiser
... I rather like this one with the double stacked casements ala the Hapsburg Class.

Again, refurbished version below.

Supay, Incan Windjammer Barque laid down 1899

Displacement:
   4,500 t light; 4,904 t standard; 5,499 t normal; 5,976 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (349.33 ft / 334.65 ft) x 45.93 ft x (23.85 / 25.44 ft)
   (106.48 m / 102.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (7.27 / 7.75 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7.64" / 194 mm 50.0 cal guns - 220.46lbs / 100.00kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     Main guns limited to end-on fire
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 240 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides forward
      8 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1888 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,813 lbs / 1,276 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.76" / 70 mm   234.25 ft / 71.40 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.79" / 20 mm   100.36 ft / 30.59 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.31" / 8 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.18" / 30 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,001 ihp / 3,731 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,010nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,072 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   319 - 415

Cost:
   £0.419 million / $1.674 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 491 tons, 8.9 %
   Armour: 705 tons, 12.8 %
      - Belts: 359 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armament: 101 tons, 1.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 231 tons, 4.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 794 tons, 14.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,371 tons, 24.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 999 tons, 18.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,140 tons, 20.7 %
      - Hull below water: 580 tons
      - Hull void weights: 125 tons
      - Hull above water: 120 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 275 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,871 lbs / 3,117 Kg = 30.8 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1.13
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.29 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.11 ft / 6.13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,480 Square feet or 974 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 370 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.82
      - Longitudinal: 5.79
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

The hull is that of the German 1902 Windjammer Herzogin Cecilie, which managed 21knots at one point.  Windjammers of this period had steel hulls and masts and simplified rigs aided by donkey engines, vastly reducing crew needs. They were superior to steamships on the very long distance bulk cargo hauls, and could sail faster than the typical steam freighter could steam (<=8kts).

With rules from N3,
With a full rig, in normal weather this vessel could do 14 knots at a cost 275 above deck, 550 below deck

This vessel is full rigged
In the Pacific, the full rigging, the modest bunker  and small size / draft means the vessel can have nearly unlimited range, calling on any anchorage world wide. All while not belching a cloud of coal smoke on the horizon. An anachronism in some ways, the purpose is to allow a presence in the South Pacific and patrol the sealanes to Asia.
The opposition is not expected to field substantive forces, but the combination of guns does make this vessel capable of combatting most light cruisers of the time successfully.


The eight heavy 190mm main guns are made of Bronze, and mounted in doublestacked casements allow both fore/aft fire, and 4 gun broadside fire. 

139mm guns on centerpivot mounts crown the double stacked casements.
A line of 139mm gunports (casements) amidships, completes the ability to fight off typical cruisers of the world.

The individual casements have splinter armor.

A set of 65mm guns festoon the ship as a means of defeating torpedo craft should it be necessary.

Armor :
A protective deck, crowning at +1.25m and descending to -1.06m is fitted.
The deck has a 30mm crown, and 100mm slopes the entire length of the citadel.
Fore and aft, the slopes are only 50mm.
The individual casements have splinter armor.


Decks :
+6.13 Weather Deck
+3.69 Gun Deck
+1.25 Crown of Protective Deck
-1.19  2nd Deck, lower edge protective deck
-3.63  1st Deck
-6.55  Engineering Deck

Miscellaneous Weight :
550 below : Masts
30 below : 2 bow torpedo tubes, 20 16" torpedoes, sited below protective deck
(424)

50 in hull : quarters for Marine Section : 25 men
70 in hull : Extra supplies
(120)

40 on deck : 2 x 10t motor launch
(40)

275 Above deck : Sails
(275)

Void : 125t excess

"half hull speed = 5% normal displacement weight, every additional knot = +1% normal displacement weight, every additional knot above hull speed = +2% normal displacement weight"

This is the alternate means of calculating sailing rig.
Split 2/3 below, 1/3 above - masts and sails.

With a normal of  5,499 a 1/2 hull speed (9.145kts) costs : 274.95
For every additional +1  knot the cost is 109.98
14kts : (15%) 824.85  Masts : 550  Sail : 275


So to sail at 14knts in normal winds, 825 tons, split 550 Masts (under hull) and 275 sails

Refurbished version

Supay, Incan Windjammer Barque laid down 1899

Displacement:
   4,500 t light; 4,904 t standard; 5,499 t normal; 5,976 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (349.33 ft / 334.65 ft) x 45.93 ft x (23.85 / 25.44 ft)
   (106.48 m / 102.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (7.27 / 7.75 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7.64" / 194 mm 50.0 cal guns - 220.46lbs / 100.00kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     Main guns limited to end-on fire
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 240 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides forward
      8 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,813 lbs / 1,276 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.76" / 70 mm   234.25 ft / 71.40 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.79" / 20 mm   100.36 ft / 30.59 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.31" / 8 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.18" / 30 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,001 ihp / 3,731 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,010nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,072 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   319 - 415

Cost:
   £0.418 million / $1.673 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 492 tons, 8.9 %
   Armour: 705 tons, 12.8 %
      - Belts: 359 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armament: 101 tons, 1.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 231 tons, 4.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 794 tons, 14.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,370 tons, 24.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 999 tons, 18.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,140 tons, 20.7 %
      - Hull below water: 580 tons
      - Hull void weights: 125 tons
      - Hull above water: 120 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 275 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,877 lbs / 3,119 Kg = 30.9 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1.13
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.29 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m,  20.11 ft / 6.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.11 ft / 6.13 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,480 Square feet or 974 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 370 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.82
      - Longitudinal: 5.80
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Refurbished 1909
Engines overhauled.
1899 139mm replaced 1904 139mm : 150t
1888 65mm replaced 1904 65mm : 14t
1905 Fire Control : 50t
LR Radio : 25t
Total : 239t


The hull is that of the German 1902 Windjammer Herzogin Cecilie, which managed 21knots at one point.  Windjammers of this period had steel hulls and masts and simplified rigs aided by donkey engines, vastly reducing crew needs. They were superior to steamships on the very long distance bulk cargo hauls, and could sail faster than the typical steam freighter could steam (<=8kts).

With rules from N3,
With a full rig, in normal weather this vessel could do 14 knots at a cost 275 above deck, 550 below deck

This vessel is full rigged
In the Pacific, the full rigging, the modest bunker  and small size / draft means the vessel can have nearly unlimited range, calling on any anchorage world wide. All while not belching a cloud of coal smoke on the horizon. An anachronism in some ways, the purpose is to allow a presence in the South Pacific and patrol the sealanes to Asia.
The opposition is not expected to field substantive forces, but the combination of guns does make this vessel capable of combatting most light cruisers of the time successfully.


The eight heavy 190mm main guns are made of Bronze, and mounted in doublestacked casements allow both fore/aft fire, and 4 gun broadside fire. 

139mm guns on centerpivot mounts crown the double stacked casements.
A line of 139mm gunports (casements) amidships, completes the ability to fight off typical cruisers of the world.

The individual casements have splinter armor.

A set of 65mm guns festoon the ship as a means of defeating torpedo craft should it be necessary.

Armor :
A protective deck, crowning at +1.25m and descending to -1.06m is fitted.
The deck has a 30mm crown, and 100mm slopes the entire length of the citadel.
Fore and aft, the slopes are only 50mm.
The individual casements have splinter armor.


Decks :
+6.13 Weather Deck
+3.69 Gun Deck
+1.25 Crown of Protective Deck
-1.19  2nd Deck, lower edge protective deck
-3.63  1st Deck
-6.55  Engineering Deck

Miscellaneous Weight :
550 below : Masts
30 below : 2 bow torpedo tubes, 20 16" torpedoes, sited below protective deck
(424)

50 in hull : quarters for Marine Section : 25 men
70 in hull : Extra supplies
(120)

40 on deck : 2 x 10t motor launch
(40)

275 Above deck : Sails
(275)

Void : 125t excess

"half hull speed = 5% normal displacement weight, every additional knot = +1% normal displacement weight, every additional knot above hull speed = +2% normal displacement weight"

This is the alternate means of calculating sailing rig.
Split 2/3 below, 1/3 above - masts and sails.

With a normal of  5,499 a 1/2 hull speed (9.145kts) costs : 274.95
For every additional +1  knot the cost is 109.98
14kts : (15%) 824.85  Masts : 550  Sail : 275


So to sail at 14knts in normal winds, 825 tons, split 550 Masts (under hull) and 275 sails

[Kaiser Kirk]

1902 Protected Cruiser.
I did not use the Esmeralda for this, but that size vessel was the goal, and taking advantage of the 1900 cruiser tech 0.9 hull.

I failed to specify what the miscellaneous weight is - assume torpedoes, marines, launches, etc. These ships are to secure the Incan coastline and adjacent lands.

The 1910 refurbished version is below.

Titicaca, Inca Protected Cruiser laid down 1902

Displacement:
   5,994 t light; 6,253 t standard; 6,998 t normal; 7,595 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (414.04 ft / 404.20 ft) x 52.49 ft x (22.77 / 24.24 ft)
   (126.20 m / 123.20 m) x 16.00 m  x (6.94 / 7.39 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 220.46lbs / 100.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 40.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,605 lbs / 728 kg
      8 - 13.8" / 350 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 0.605 t each, 4.840 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
      5 - 13.8" / 350 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 0.605 t each, 3.025 t total
   In 1 sets of submerged bow tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   363.78 ft / 110.88 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.98" / 25 mm     40.39 ft / 12.31 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 138 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.76" / 70 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   2nd:   2.76" / 70 mm   0.79" / 20 mm            -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 17,153 ihp / 12,796 Kw = 21.66 kts
   Range 4,600nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,342 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   382 - 497

Cost:
   £0.651 million / $2.605 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 268 tons, 3.8 %
      - Guns: 260 tons, 3.7 %
      - Torpedoes: 8 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 1,013 tons, 14.5 %
      - Belts: 356 tons, 5.1 %
      - Armament: 102 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 523 tons, 7.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 31 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,599 tons, 37.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,614 tons, 23.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,004 tons, 14.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 7.1 %
      - Hull below water: 100 tons
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,246 lbs / 1,926 Kg = 19.1 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.507 / 0.517
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.10 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   5.00 %,  22.28 ft / 6.79 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Quarter deck:   5.00 %,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.35 ft / 5.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 136.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,228 Square feet or 1,322 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 336 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.80
      - Longitudinal: 2.63
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

1910 Refurbished

Titicaca, Inca Protected Cruiser laid down 1902

Displacement:
   5,994 t light; 6,253 t standard; 6,998 t normal; 7,595 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (414.04 ft / 404.20 ft) x 52.49 ft x (22.77 / 24.24 ft)
   (126.20 m / 123.20 m) x 16.00 m  x (6.94 / 7.39 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 220.46lbs / 100.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 81.57lbs / 37.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 40.0 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,605 lbs / 728 kg
      8 - 13.8" / 350 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 0.605 t each, 4.840 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
      5 - 13.8" / 350 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 0.605 t each, 3.025 t total
   In 1 sets of submerged bow tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   363.78 ft / 110.88 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   0.98" / 25 mm     40.39 ft / 12.31 m   12.01 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 138 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.76" / 70 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   2nd:   2.76" / 70 mm   0.79" / 20 mm            -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck: 1.97" / 50 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 17,153 ihp / 12,796 Kw = 21.66 kts
   Range 4,600nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,342 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   382 - 497

Cost:
   £0.651 million / $2.605 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 268 tons, 3.8 %
      - Guns: 260 tons, 3.7 %
      - Torpedoes: 8 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 1,013 tons, 14.5 %
      - Belts: 356 tons, 5.1 %
      - Armament: 102 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 523 tons, 7.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 31 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,599 tons, 37.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,614 tons, 23.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,004 tons, 14.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 7.1 %
      - Hull below water: 100 tons
      - Hull void weights: 48 tons
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 52 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,293 lbs / 1,947 Kg = 19.3 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 11.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.24
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.507 / 0.517
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.10 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   5.00 %,  22.28 ft / 6.79 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Quarter deck:   5.00 %,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m,  19.29 ft / 5.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.35 ft / 5.90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 136.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,228 Square feet or 1,322 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 336 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.80
      - Longitudinal: 2.63
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

1910 Refurbishment
27t  1905 fire control
25t   LR Radio

[Kaiser Kirk]

In 1904, the Inca produced a series of smaller cruisers, exploiting the turbine.
The machinery spaces for the boilers and turbines extended along the length of the hull and projected above the waterline.
This led to the adoption of an armored belt and deck...which technically means they are light cruisers.

In 1911 they were refurbished and the 1905 firecontrol added.

Paxil, Inca Light Cruiser laid down 1904

Displacement:
   3,995 t light; 4,171 t standard; 4,620 t normal; 4,979 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (372.70 ft / 362.86 ft) x 43.64 ft x (18.64 / 19.77 ft)
   (113.60 m / 110.60 m) x 13.30 m  x (5.68 / 6.03 m)

Armament:
      6 - 5.47" / 139 mm 45.0 cal guns - 82.64lbs / 37.48kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     4 x Single mounts on sides forward
      6 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.07lbs / 15.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      10 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 782 lbs / 355 kg
      10 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 1.042 t each, 10.425 t total
   In 2 sets of submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   355.61 ft / 108.39 m   10.24 ft / 3.12 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm     7.22 ft / 2.20 m   10.24 ft / 3.12 m
     Main Belt covers 151 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 1.18" / 30 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 17,660 shp / 13,174 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 4,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 807 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   279 - 364

Cost:
   £0.448 million / $1.791 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 201 tons, 4.4 %
      - Guns: 191 tons, 4.1 %
      - Torpedoes: 10 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 882 tons, 19.1 %
      - Belts: 559 tons, 12.1 %
      - Armament: 68 tons, 1.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 243 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 12 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 1,753 tons, 37.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,080 tons, 23.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 625 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 79 tons, 1.7 %
      - Hull below water: 36 tons
      - Hull void weights: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 8 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,263 lbs / 1,026 Kg = 27.6 x 5.5 " / 139 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.39
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.548 / 0.557
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.05 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   1.00 %,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m
      - Aft deck:   68.00 %,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m
      - Quarter deck:   1.00 %,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m,  14.96 ft / 4.56 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.96 ft / 4.56 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 146.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,029 Square feet or 1,025 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 63 lbs/sq ft or 309 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 1.81
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Adapted from the German Bremen class with Inca guns.

Featuring an armored deck and belt armor, this gives the ship the room to
put the engines and magazines under the deck.

Unfortunately that means the armor is only proof against light weapons and non-AP rounds.


Miscellaneous Weight :
1 underwater bow tube, 2 tubes on each broadside, 18 torpedoes 18" : 36t
4 single tubes on deck : 8t
LR Radio : 25t

Void reserve : 100t

1911 Refurbish
+ 1905 Fire Control : +20t
Void reserve : -20t

[Kaiser Kirk]

in 1905, to provide for torpedo attack craft in the rough waters, a class of torpedo boats were produced. I simply adapted the ones I had done for Parthia, but that does not mean a link, it means I was lazy and reused designs.

They make 27.75 knots for a short range, which is fairly good.
TGB-1, Inca Torpedo Gunboat laid down 1905

Displacement:
   249 t light; 257 t standard; 301 t normal; 336 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (180.45 ft / 177.17 ft) x 19.69 ft x (7.55 / 8.15 ft)
   (55.00 m / 54.00 m) x 6.00 m  x (2.30 / 2.48 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.87lbs / 4.02kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 18 lbs / 8 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 4,307 shp / 3,213 Kw = 23.22 kts
   Range 1,450nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 79 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   35 - 46

Cost:
   £0.033 million / $0.130 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 4 tons, 1.3 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 163 tons, 54.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 72 tons, 24.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 52 tons, 17.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 8 tons, 2.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 8 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     83 lbs / 38 Kg = 9.9 x 2.6 " / 65 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
   Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 9.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13.31 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  11.29 ft / 3.44 m,  11.29 ft / 3.44 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.66 ft / 2.64 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 178.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,030 Square feet or 189 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 41 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 84 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.38
      - Overall: 0.58
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform


Miscellaneous weight is as follows :
4t - 4x 450mm torpedoes. Two torpedoes fire forward from the "cheeks" like an E-boat, and two on a turntable in the rear.


Trial Speed: 27.75

[Kaiser Kirk]

These are two further coast defense ships, but cruiser size vessels, with excellent seakeeping.

They are overarmored for their gun size...I probably should have tried for 240mm guns....
ok modified for 240mm main guns. They have a broadside of 5 guns.

Oh darn, now I remember why I had the smaller guns - so they would fall under the cruiser architecture.

Fire control was added in a 1909 refurbishment.

Illapa, Inca Coast Defense Ship laid down 1906

Displacement:
   5,999 t light; 6,368 t standard; 7,133 t normal; 7,745 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (360.89 ft / 354.33 ft) x 62.34 ft x (21.33 / 22.74 ft)
   (110.00 m / 108.00 m) x 19.00 m  x (6.50 / 6.93 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 231.49lbs / 105.00kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      8 - 5.47" / 139 mm 50.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      12 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.87lbs / 4.02kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,664 lbs / 1,208 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   177.17 ft / 54.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   177.13 ft / 53.99 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Upper:   6.30" / 160 mm   177.17 ft / 54.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 77 % of normal length

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.00" / 0 mm     0.00 ft / 0.00 m   0.00 ft / 0.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   1.97" / 50 mm            -
   3rd:   0.24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks: 2.76" / 70 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.77" / 45 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.06" / 230 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 5,856 shp / 4,369 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,220nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,377 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   387 - 504

Cost:
   £0.480 million / $1.920 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 541 tons, 7.6 %
   Armour: 3,087 tons, 43.3 %
      - Belts: 1,633 tons, 22.9 %
      - Armament: 721 tons, 10.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 661 tons, 9.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 72 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 418 tons, 5.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,722 tons, 24.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,134 tons, 15.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 230 tons, 3.2 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Hull void weights: 75 tons
      - Above deck: 115 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,918 lbs / 6,313 Kg = 62.5 x 7.6 " / 194 mm shells or 3.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.40
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.29
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.530 / 0.540
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.68 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 31
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   10.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 48.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,129 Square feet or 1,406 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 449 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.83
      - Longitudinal: 1.86
      - Overall: 0.90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Miscellaneous weight :
40t - 20 underwater 18" torps : 2 tubes each side, 1 bow
25t - LR radio
90t - 1905 Fire control, refitted 1909

[Kaiser Kirk]

Last and least, more torpedo boats.
Same hull as their predecessors, but more powerful turbines.
The result pushes the little ships to the edge of their seakeeping abilities and points to the need for larger torpedo boats in the future.

TB-1, Inca Torpedo Gunboat laid down 1911

Displacement:
   250 t light; 258 t standard; 301 t normal; 335 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (180.45 ft / 177.17 ft) x 19.69 ft x (7.55 / 8.14 ft)
   (55.00 m / 54.00 m) x 6.00 m  x (2.30 / 2.48 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 8.82lbs / 4.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 18 lbs / 8 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 6,450 shp / 4,812 Kw = 25.50 kts
   Range 2,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 78 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   35 - 46

Cost:
   £0.032 million / $0.127 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 4 tons, 1.3 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 158 tons, 52.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 78 tons, 26.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 51 tons, 17.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 8 tons, 2.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 8 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     91 lbs / 41 Kg = 10.9 x 2.6 " / 65 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.47
   Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 44 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.79

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13.31 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  11.29 ft / 3.44 m,  11.29 ft / 3.44 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m,  8.01 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.83 ft / 2.69 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 173.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,030 Square feet or 189 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 51 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 89 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.69
      - Overall: 0.59
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather


Miscellaneous weight is as follows :
8t - 4x 450mm torpedoes. Two torpedoes fire forward from the "cheeks" like an E-boat, and two on a turntable in the rear.


Trial Speed: 29.88

[maddox]

Mogambo is pleased.



Just kidding. Kaiser Kirk, you did a splendid job.   Phoenix is pleased. And me too.