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[Borys]

Ahoj!
No, this is not WWI.
It is the Manchurian War period.

Iwo Jima - 21 square kilometres - was defended by some 21,000 men.
Hainan - 34 THOUSAND square kilometres - was defended by some 75,000 men.
'Nuff said.

Borys

[Desertfox]

There's not much of a difference between WWI and the Russo-Japanese War.

Iwo Jima - 21,000 vs 110,000
Hainan - 75,000 vs 300,000

Wasn't talking about terrain sizes but about odds. The odds in Hainan where more faborable than at Iwo. The Allies didn't have aerial support, nor naval support in the quantities seen at Iwo. Also the first two Chinese waves where beaten back with heavy losses. Chinese units where not at full strength. The battle also lasted much longer and the Allies did not have the weapons the US had in WWII.

[Korpen]

There's not much of a difference between WWI and the Russo-Japanese War.

Iwo Jima - 21,000 vs 110,000
Hainan - 75,000 vs 300,000

Wasn't talking about terrain sizes but about odds. The odds in Hainan where more faborable than at Iwo. The Allies didn't have aerial support, nor naval support in the quantities seen at Iwo. Also the first two Chinese waves where beaten back with heavy losses. Chinese units where not at full strength. The battle also lasted much longer and the Allies did not have the weapons the US had in WWII.

The much lower troop density favour the attacker, as they have a much greater freedom to concentrate their forces. Basically I think we could look at the type of fighting that took place on the eastern front during ww1, only less deadly as the involved parties have less deadly weapons (or at least in lesser numbers).

The lenght of the battle might in fact mean less losses, it all depends on the tactics involved.

We have triangle here as well, Time-Ground-Blood.

[Walter]

But you where facing the best defensive army in the world

Yeah. Big surprise! You're the only defensive army at the moment so you can easily make that claim! ;D

Still, as Borys said, you're trying to defend a 34,000 square kilometre island (a good 1600 times bigger than Iwo). With the MK holding about half at the moment the Japanese arrived, the single National Guard Division is spread out over at least 10,000 square kilometres to protect the south and southwest of Hainan so it is unlikely that I will run into the whole divison at once, only parts of it.

The much lower troop density favour the attacker, as they have a much greater freedom to concentrate their forces.

I was thinking about that, too.

Iwo... 1,000 defending soldiers per square kilometer
versus
Hainan... 2.2 defending soldiers per square kilometer

That is a huge difference. To me that means that you'll lose more men on Iwo (27,909 casualties in 1 month) when you attack than on Hainan. Also, the chance of breaking through the enemy line at Hainan is much greater than at Iwo.

Having looked at various maps, the Hainan landscape isn't that impressive. If I have to compare it with something, I'd say the center of the island looks a bit like east/southeast Belgium perhaps... which is where the Germans pounded through with considerable ease... :)

[The Rock Doctor]

Regarding Japan's 1908 international relations:  I was puzzled to see that relations with New Switzerland score higher than Gran Colombia.  I'm assuming there might be a mistake there.

[Desertfox]

Rocky, see New Switzerland's Diplomatic Relations. Something is most definately wrong, thought it might not be what you think it is...

[The Rock Doctor]

I saw that afterward.  It implies shenanigans, but without any comforting details.

[Ithekro]

Ummm...They realived that they were just fighting for survival and their love of their homelands was the same so they forgave their enemy and will soon become almost like brothers after they fight yet another enemy together?  (a very Japanese space opera story)

[Walter]

Unfortunately I do not have the technology yet for a space opera story. ;D

One should also remember that a large part of the citizens of Japan and Korea are Swiss so it is important to pick up the pieces and quickly glue them back together in order to avoid problems within the Empire.

It might be that the only difference between a New Swiss and a Neo Swiss is the name. :D

[Borys]

Ahoj!

All hail the Swisumasu!

Borys

[Walter]

You're saying that, but I think that in reality you mean "All hail the Big Swiss Cheese." :)
(... and I think it's probably Suisumasu)

[Borys]

Ahoj!
My knowledge of things Japanese is scant. So Suisomasu it can be.
Borys

[Ithekro]

Suzumiya?  One that should be hailed?

[Borys]

I was thinking along the lines of
New Swiss living in New Swiss confederation (Home Isles, Hawaii) = Bad
New Swiss living on the East Asian Islands and Peninsulas = Good

And that the later variety could be called Suisumasu.

Borys

[Walter]

New Swiss living in New Swiss confederation (Home Isles, Hawaii) = Bad
New Swiss living on the East Asian Islands and Peninsulas = Good

If you know your math, you should know that when a negative is multipied by a positive, it will remain negative. :)