Byzantine Empire - 1910

Walter · March 03, 2017, 08:05:15 AM

Yes, either that (16 ft freeboard is high enough for the limited use in heavy seas remark) or maybe the 6 inch guns should be raised.

Also there are occasional gaps in the armors...

Quote9,00 ft / 2,74 m Unarmoured ends

Quote1,00 ft / 0,30 m Unarmoured ends

Jefgte · March 12, 2017, 06:17:59 PM

Possible light AC...

AC3, Byzantine Empire 6000t laid down 1904

Displacement:
   6 000 t light; 6 203 t standard; 6 836 t normal; 7 343 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (488,00 ft / 488,00 ft) x 56,00 ft x (17,51 / 18,48 ft)
   (148,74 m / 148,74 m) x 17,07 m x (5,34 / 5,63 m)

Armament:
4 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
6 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     6 x Single mounts on side ends, majority forward
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1 045 lbs / 474 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   372,00 ft / 113,39 m   7,00 ft / 2,13 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   116,00 ft / 35,36 m   5,00 ft / 1,52 m
   Upper:   2,55" / 65 mm   372,00 ft / 113,39 m   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
     Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1,00" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,00" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 4,00" / 102 mm, Aft 3,00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22 132 shp / 16 511 Kw = 23,66 kts
   Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 139 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   375 - 488

Cost:
   £0,609 million / $2,437 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 226 tons, 3,3 %
     - Guns: 226 tons, 3,3 %
   Armour: 1 444 tons, 21,1 %
     - Belts: 886 tons, 13,0 %
     - Armament: 95 tons, 1,4 %
     - Armour Deck: 409 tons, 6,0 %
     - Conning Towers: 54 tons, 0,8 %
   Machinery: 2 213 tons, 32,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 945 tons, 28,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 836 tons, 12,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 171 tons, 2,5 %
     - Hull below water: 6 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
     - Above deck: 125 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 211 lbs / 2 364 Kg = 24,7 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,27
   Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 13,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 87 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,27
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,45

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,509
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,09 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   18,00 %, 16,00 ft / 4,88 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Forward deck:   33,00 %, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Aft deck:   33,00 %, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Quarter deck:   16,00 %, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Average freeboard:      14,14 ft / 4,31 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 117,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 208 Square feet or 1 692 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 77 lbs/sq ft or 375 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,89
      - Longitudinal: 1,00
      - Overall: 0,90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

3 TT x 450 with 3 reloads

Walter · March 13, 2017, 12:51:06 AM

Not so sure about that AC3... To me it is mixing the capital ship tech with the cruiser tech. The cruiser tech requires the 1910 level for twin mounts. It can be built using the capital ship tech, but that tech does not allow overall hull strengths of less than 1.

snip · March 13, 2017, 07:34:19 AM

Yep, Walter is right. It either needs to lose the turrets and go to single M&H or get back to 1.00 Composite.

Jefgte · March 14, 2017, 04:47:33 PM

6000t is too light to have a correct AC.

=> 6000t AC3 is canceled.

Jefgte · March 14, 2017, 06:18:15 PM

AC2, Byzantine Empire AC2 laid down 1900

Displacement:
   13 740 t light; 14 251 t standard; 15 080 t normal; 15 743 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (532,00 ft / 532,00 ft) x 76,00 ft x (20,85 / 21,62 ft)
   (162,15 m / 162,15 m) x 23,16 m x (6,36 / 6,59 m)

Armament:
6 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,66lbs / 178,11kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
8 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 138 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 192 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3 336 lbs / 1 513 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5,10" / 130 mm   517,00 ft / 157,58 m   6,90 ft / 2,10 m
   Ends:   1,97" / 50 mm     15,00 ft / 4,57 m   5,00 ft / 1,52 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   517,00 ft / 157,58 m   10,07 ft / 3,07 m
     Main Belt covers 150 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,50" / 140 mm   2,97" / 75 mm      3,55" / 90 mm
   2nd:   1,97" / 50 mm   1,97" / 50 mm      1,97" / 50 mm
   4th:   0,80" / 20 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1,00" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 1,00" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 5,50" / 140 mm, Aft 3,55" / 90 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 40 000 ihp / 29 840 Kw = 24,00 kts
   Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 492 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   679 - 884

Cost:
   £1,614 million / $6,458 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 676 tons, 4,5 %
     - Guns: 676 tons, 4,5 %
   Armour: 2 579 tons, 17,1 %
     - Belts: 1 444 tons, 9,6 %
     - Armament: 336 tons, 2,2 %
     - Armour Deck: 680 tons, 4,5 %
     - Conning Towers: 118 tons, 0,8 %
   Machinery: 6 188 tons, 41,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 094 tons, 27,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 340 tons, 8,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 203 tons, 1,3 %
     - Hull below water: 12 tons
     - Hull above water: 56 tons
     - Above deck: 135 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 455 lbs / 3 381 Kg = 19,1 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,49
   Metacentric height 6,5 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 12,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,630
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,07 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   18,00 %, 16,50 ft / 5,03 m, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m
     - Forward deck:   33,00 %, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Aft deck:   33,00 %, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Quarter deck:   16,00 %, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m, 14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     - Average freeboard:      14,45 ft / 4,41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 149,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 30 296 Square feet or 2 815 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 85 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 542 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1,01
      - Longitudinal: 0,99
      - Overall: 1,00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Misc weight:
12t => 3 TT x 450 with 3 reloads
56t => 28t for extra pump installation & 28t for extra air ventilation
135t => 125t for fire control & 10t for short Marconi

Jefgte · March 21, 2017, 04:45:52 PM

Back aboard earlier...
I have worked on a 1897 early 21kts BB.

Barbarossa, Byzantine Empire BB2 laid down 1897

Displacement:
   15 190 t light; 16 035 t standard; 16 978 t normal; 17 733 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (515,00 ft / 504,00 ft) x 72,00 ft x (25,75 / 26,71 ft)
   (156,97 m / 153,62 m) x 21,95 m x (7,85 / 8,14 m)

Armament:
4 - 13,50" / 343 mm 40,0 cal guns - 1 179,03lbs / 534,80kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,75lbs / 96,50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,00kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 7 527 lbs / 3 414 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   361,00 ft / 110,03 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   143,00 ft / 43,59 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   5,50" / 140 mm   361,00 ft / 110,03 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   4,72" / 120 mm      9,45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   3,95" / 100 mm   1,95" / 50 mm      1,95" / 50 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11,80" / 300 mm, Aft 4,72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 25 742 ihp / 19 203 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 697 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   743 - 966

Cost:
   £1,646 million / $6,583 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 139 tons, 6,7 %
     - Guns: 1 139 tons, 6,7 %
   Armour: 4 821 tons, 28,4 %
     - Belts: 2 585 tons, 15,2 %
     - Armament: 820 tons, 4,8 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 181 tons, 7,0 %
     - Conning Towers: 235 tons, 1,4 %
   Machinery: 4 220 tons, 24,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 783 tons, 28,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 789 tons, 10,5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 227 tons, 1,3 %
     - Hull below water: 16 tons
     - Hull above water: 76 tons
     - Above deck: 135 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13 396 lbs / 6 076 Kg = 10,9 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
   Metacentric height 4,7 ft / 1,4 m
   Roll period: 13,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,636 / 0,640
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,45 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   17,50 %, 17,00 ft / 5,18 m, 16,00 ft / 4,88 m
     - Forward deck:   30,00 %, 16,00 ft / 4,88 m, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m
     - Aft deck:   35,00 %, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m
     - Quarter deck:   17,50 %, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m, 15,00 ft / 4,57 m
     - Average freeboard:      15,40 ft / 4,69 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 107,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 27 443 Square feet or 2 550 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 658 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,47
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

16t for 4TT x18'' + 4 reloads
38t for additionnal air ventillation
38t for additionnal pumps installation
125t for fire control
10t for Marconi

Jefgte · March 21, 2017, 04:56:50 PM

A kind of ship came back from my earlier Navalism.
This type is used in short sea & straits for police & short naval action.
With a speed of 21kts, TGB, Torpedo Gun Boat is back to close Red Sea & Dardanelle acces.
For the moment, 72 are in the Plan.

TGB1, Byzantine Empire 38m-125tonnes laid down 1900

Displacement:
   125 t light; 131 t standard; 137 t normal; 142 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (124,67 ft / 124,67 ft) x 15,29 ft x (6,30 / 6,44 ft)
   (38,00 m / 38,00 m) x 4,66 m x (1,92 / 1,96 m)

Armament:
1 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal gun - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1900 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline forward
2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,35lbs / 1,52kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 20 lbs / 9 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,20" / 5 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 150 ihp / 1 604 Kw = 21,05 kts
   Range 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 11 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   19 - 26

Cost:
   £0,017 million / $0,068 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 4 tons, 3,2 %
     - Guns: 4 tons, 3,2 %
   Armour: 0 tons, 0,3 %
     - Armament: 0 tons, 0,3 %
   Machinery: 81 tons, 59,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 35 tons, 25,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 12 tons, 8,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 4 tons, 2,9 %
     - On freeboard deck: 4 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     31 lbs / 14 Kg = 2,3 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23
   Metacentric height 0,4 ft / 0,1 m
   Roll period: 9,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,23
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,405
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,15 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 11,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 71 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   25,00 %, 8,37 ft / 2,55 m, 9,35 ft / 2,85 m
     - Forward deck:   25,00 %, 7,38 ft / 2,25 m, 6,89 ft / 2,10 m
     - Aft deck:   25,00 %, 6,89 ft / 2,10 m, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
     - Quarter deck:   25,00 %, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 6,23 ft / 1,90 m
     - Average freeboard:      7,30 ft / 2,23 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 200,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 1 173 Square feet or 109 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 20 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 14 lbs/sq ft or 71 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 4,25
      - Overall: 0,61
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

4t for 2TTx18'' + 2 reloads

& the Squadron leader

Mansoura, Byzantine Empire TGB leader laid down 1905

Displacement:
   255 t light; 267 t standard; 287 t normal; 303 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (164,04 ft / 164,04 ft) x 19,69 ft x (6,22 / 6,47 ft)
   (50,00 m / 50,00 m) x 6,00 m x (1,90 / 1,97 m)

Armament:
2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 93,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 55 lbs / 25 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm     -           -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm     -           -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 150 shp / 2 350 Kw = 21,13 kts
   Range 1 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 36 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   34 - 45

Cost:
   £0,032 million / $0,130 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 13 tons, 4,4 %
     - Guns: 13 tons, 4,4 %
   Armour: 8 tons, 2,8 %
     - Armament: 8 tons, 2,8 %
   Machinery: 138 tons, 48,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 73 tons, 25,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 32 tons, 11,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 24 tons, 8,4 %
     - On freeboard deck: 14 tons
     - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     87 lbs / 40 Kg = 6,5 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
   Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 11,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,48
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12,81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   30,00 %, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m
     - Forward deck:   30,00 %, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
     - Aft deck:   20,00 %, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
     - Quarter deck:   20,00 %, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
     - Average freeboard:      9,30 ft / 2,84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 169,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 2 152 Square feet or 200 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 48 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 89 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 3,02
      - Overall: 0,59
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

4t for 2TTx450 + 2 reloads
10t Marconi
10t reserved

Jefgte · March 22, 2017, 05:50:58 PM

Another Barbarossa with the classic 18kts.
Note secondary increase to 234mm guns in single turrets

Barbarossa, Byzantine Empire BB2 laid down 1897

Displacement:
   14 480 t light; 15 368 t standard; 16 280 t normal; 17 009 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (486,00 ft / 475,00 ft) x 75,00 ft x (25,55 / 26,51 ft)
   (148,13 m / 144,78 m) x 22,86 m x (7,79 / 8,08 m)

Armament:
4 - 13,50" / 343 mm 40,0 cal guns - 1 179,03lbs / 534,80kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,66lbs / 178,11kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
10 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 raised mounts
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,00kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 8 180 lbs / 3 710 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   309,00 ft / 94,18 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   166,00 ft / 50,60 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   5,92" / 150 mm   309,00 ft / 94,18 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   5,92" / 150 mm      12,6" / 320 mm
   2nd:   5,92" / 150 mm   3,95" / 100 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,58" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1,58" / 40 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11,80" / 300 mm, Aft 5,92" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 14 571 ihp / 10 870 Kw = 18,09 kts
   Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 641 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   719 - 936

Cost:
   £1,542 million / $6,167 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 653 tons, 10,2 %
     - Guns: 1 653 tons, 10,2 %
   Armour: 5 376 tons, 33,0 %
     - Belts: 2 475 tons, 15,2 %
     - Armament: 1 480 tons, 9,1 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 176 tons, 7,2 %
     - Conning Towers: 245 tons, 1,5 %
   Machinery: 2 389 tons, 14,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 835 tons, 29,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 800 tons, 11,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 227 tons, 1,4 %
     - Hull below water: 16 tons
     - Hull above water: 76 tons
     - Above deck: 135 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16 762 lbs / 7 603 Kg = 13,6 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,16
   Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 15,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,70
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,630
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,79 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   17,50 %, 17,00 ft / 5,18 m, 15,50 ft / 4,72 m
     - Forward deck:   30,00 %, 15,50 ft / 4,72 m, 14,50 ft / 4,42 m
     - Aft deck:   35,00 %, 14,50 ft / 4,42 m, 14,50 ft / 4,42 m
     - Quarter deck:   17,50 %, 14,50 ft / 4,42 m, 14,50 ft / 4,42 m
     - Average freeboard:      14,93 ft / 4,55 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 104,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 26 694 Square feet or 2 480 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 151 lbs/sq ft or 738 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,61
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

16t for 4TT x18'' + 4 reloads
38t for additionnal air ventillation
38t for additionnal pumps installation
125t for fire control
10t for Marconi

Jefgte · March 27, 2017, 04:35:00 PM

Kilkis - Lemnos, Byzantine Empire BB3 laid down 1902

Displacement:
   20 000 t light; 21 038 t standard; 22 511 t normal; 23 690 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (574,00 ft / 574,00 ft) x 84,00 ft x (24,91 / 26,02 ft)
   (174,96 m / 174,96 m) x 25,60 m x (7,59 / 7,93 m)

Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,68lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
8 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 141 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 93,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 9 515 lbs / 4 316 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   389,00 ft / 118,57 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   185,00 ft / 56,39 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   5,50" / 140 mm   389,00 ft / 118,57 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   4,72" / 120 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   3,95" / 100 mm   1,97" / 50 mm      1,97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,77" / 45 mm Quarter deck: 1,77" / 45 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 5,90" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 30 000 shp / 22 380 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 652 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   918 - 1 194

Cost:
   £2,185 million / $8,741 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 594 tons, 7,1 %
     - Guns: 1 594 tons, 7,1 %
   Armour: 6 376 tons, 28,3 %
     - Belts: 3 137 tons, 13,9 %
     - Armament: 1 294 tons, 5,7 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 641 tons, 7,3 %
     - Conning Towers: 304 tons, 1,4 %
   Machinery: 4 951 tons, 22,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 688 tons, 29,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 512 tons, 11,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 391 tons, 1,7 %
     - Hull below water: 16 tons
     - Hull above water: 100 tons
     - Above deck: 275 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21 114 lbs / 9 577 Kg = 17,2 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 2,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,33
   Metacentric height 6,4 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 13,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,47
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,43

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,656 / 0,661
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,96 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   20,00 %, 21,50 ft / 6,55 m, 17,50 ft / 5,33 m
     - Forward deck:   30,00 %, 17,50 ft / 5,33 m, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m
     - Aft deck:   30,00 %, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m
     - Quarter deck:   20,00 %, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m
     - Average freeboard:      16,78 ft / 5,11 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 37 140 Square feet or 3 450 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 146 lbs/sq ft or 714 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,20
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weight 391t:
250t fire control
50t for extra pump installation
50t for climatization
25t for long range wireless
16t for 4TTx450+4 reloads

Walter · March 28, 2017, 10:59:36 AM

The 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns requires the 1905 gun tech meaning the earliest it can be used is 1909 while the Kilkis - Lemnos is a 1902 design. The earliest a 40 caliber version could be used is 1904 while the Barbarossa is an 1897 design. Smaller armament on the Barbarossa require the 1895 tech for 45 caliber weapons, so 1899 is the earliest for 45 caliber guns.

Jefgte · March 29, 2017, 04:53:49 PM

Kilkis - Lemnos, Byzantine Empire BB3 laid down 1902

Displacement:
   20 000 t light; 21 018 t standard; 22 491 t normal; 23 669 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (574,00 ft / 574,00 ft) x 84,00 ft x (24,89 / 26,00 ft)
   (174,96 m / 174,96 m) x 25,60 m x (7,59 / 7,92 m)

Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 40,0 cal guns - 1 179,03lbs / 534,80kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
8 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,75lbs / 96,50kg shells, 141 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 93,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 9 146 lbs / 4 148 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   380,00 ft / 115,82 m   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   185,00 ft / 56,39 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
     9,00 ft / 2,74 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5,50" / 140 mm   380,00 ft / 115,82 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   4,72" / 120 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   3,95" / 100 mm   1,97" / 50 mm      1,97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,77" / 45 mm Quarter deck: 1,77" / 45 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 5,90" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 30 000 shp / 22 380 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 4 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 651 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   917 - 1 193

Cost:
   £2,078 million / $8,310 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 395 tons, 6,2 %
     - Guns: 1 395 tons, 6,2 %
   Armour: 6 433 tons, 28,6 %
     - Belts: 3 190 tons, 14,2 %
     - Armament: 1 299 tons, 5,8 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 641 tons, 7,3 %
     - Conning Towers: 304 tons, 1,4 %
   Machinery: 4 950 tons, 22,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 630 tons, 29,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 490 tons, 11,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 591 tons, 2,6 %
     - Hull below water: 16 tons
     - Hull above water: 100 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
     - Above deck: 275 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     22 779 lbs / 10 332 Kg = 18,5 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 2,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
   Metacentric height 6,5 ft / 2,0 m
   Roll period: 13,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,45
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,45

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,656 / 0,661
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,96 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   20,00 %, 21,50 ft / 6,55 m, 17,50 ft / 5,33 m
     - Forward deck:   30,00 %, 17,50 ft / 5,33 m, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m
     - Aft deck:   30,00 %, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m
     - Quarter deck:   20,00 %, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m, 15,90 ft / 4,85 m
     - Average freeboard:      16,78 ft / 5,11 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 37 140 Square feet or 3 450 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 702 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,19
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weight 591t:
250t fire control
50t for extra pump installation
50t for climatization
25t for long range wireless
16t for 4TTx450+4 reloads
200t reserved

Jefgte · March 30, 2017, 05:33:38 PM

Oups...correct shells per gun ???

Ramses II - Seti I, Byzantine Empire BB4 laid down 1907

Displacement:
   25 940 t light; 27 707 t standard; 30 134 t normal; 32 076 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (27,03 / 28,48 ft)
   (190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m x (8,24 / 8,68 m)

Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
12 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1907 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1907 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,00kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1907 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 16 453 lbs / 7 463 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   12,50 ft / 3,81 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   196,00 ft / 59,74 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
     21,36 ft / 6,51 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5,50" / 140 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,00" / 25 mm   4 066,00 ft / 1 239,32 m   28,31 ft / 8,63 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 100,00 ft / 30,48 m

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13,4" / 340 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   3,15" / 80 mm     -         3,15" / 80 mm
   4th:   1,57" / 40 mm     -           -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 36 000 shp / 26 856 Kw = 21,13 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 369 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   1 143 - 1 486

Cost:
   £2,683 million / $10,731 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 793 tons, 9,3 %
     - Guns: 2 793 tons, 9,3 %
   Armour: 13 551 tons, 45,0 %
     - Belts: 4 116 tons, 13,7 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 4 260 tons, 14,1 %
     - Armament: 2 416 tons, 8,0 %
     - Armour Deck: 2 480 tons, 8,2 %
     - Conning Tower: 279 tons, 0,9 %
   Machinery: 2 228 tons, 7,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 877 tons, 22,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 194 tons, 13,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 491 tons, 1,6 %
     - Hull below water: 16 tons
     - Hull above water: 100 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 100 tons
     - Above deck: 275 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     45 353 lbs / 20 572 Kg = 36,9 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 9,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,29
   Metacentric height 7,9 ft / 2,4 m
   Roll period: 14,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,64
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,49

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,632
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   18,00 %, 24,10 ft / 7,35 m, 21,30 ft / 6,49 m
     - Forward deck:   52,00 %, 21,30 ft / 6,49 m, 20,60 ft / 6,28 m
     - Aft deck:   13,00 %, 12,40 ft / 3,78 m, 12,40 ft / 3,78 m
     - Quarter deck:   17,00 %, 12,40 ft / 3,78 m, 12,40 ft / 3,78 m
     - Average freeboard:      18,65 ft / 5,68 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 46 708 Square feet or 4 339 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 198 lbs/sq ft or 969 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,55
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

eltf177 · March 31, 2017, 03:55:03 AM

Quote from: Jefgte on March 30, 2017, 05:33:38 PM

Ramses II - Seti I, Byzantine Empire BB4 laid down 1907

Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
12 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1907 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread

Twelve guns? :o

Walter · March 31, 2017, 10:11:46 AM

Quote from: eltf177 on March 31, 2017, 03:55:03 AM
Quote from: Jefgte on March 30, 2017, 05:33:38 PM

Ramses II - Seti I, Byzantine Empire BB4 laid down 1907

Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1907 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
12 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1907 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread

Twelve guns? :o

That is not really an issue. 12 guns in four twin turrets is. Either the layout would be 4x3 or it would be 6x2...

... but he needs the 1905 tech for triple turrets as well as for the 13.5"/45 cal guns. The tech would be available in 1907, but the triple turret design and the 13.5"/45 cal guns would still have to be researched at that point so it will be 1909 when both the 13.5"/45 cal gun and its triple turret would be available to the Byzantine Empire.