Byzantine Empire - 1910

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Alexandria, Byzantine Empire Gunboat laid down 1904

Displacement:
   333 t light; 350 t standard; 406 t normal; 451 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (183,73 ft / 183,73 ft) x 22,97 ft x (6,30 / 6,84 ft)
   (56,00 m / 56,00 m) x 7,00 m  x (1,92 / 2,08 m)

Armament:
      2 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 93,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 6 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 92 lbs / 42 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m torpedoes - 0,599 t each, 1,197 t total

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 000 ihp / 746 Kw = 15,23 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 100 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   44 - 58

Cost:
   £0,037 million / $0,147 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 18 tons, 4,3 %
      - Guns: 16 tons, 4,0 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,3 %
   Armour: 8 tons, 2,0 %
      - Armament: 8 tons, 2,0 %
   Machinery: 146 tons, 35,8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 128 tons, 31,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 73 tons, 18,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 8,6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     334 lbs / 151 Kg = 10,4 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,34
   Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 10,0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 83 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,48

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,535 / 0,547
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13,55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  10,50 ft / 3,20 m,  10,50 ft / 3,20 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      7,35 ft / 2,24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 128,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 73,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 2 904 Square feet or 270 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 155 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,57
      - Overall: 1,00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Walter

As SS3's torpedo calculations are pretty unreliable, we still use miscellaneous weights for that. Also are your MG crews trigger happy? That's a lot of rounds. Minor nit would be that you simmed it with a ram bow but it does not appear to have one (length oa is the same as length wl with no stern overhang and no angled bow) although it has no effect of the sim of the vessel. Other than that a nice little vessel I think.

Jefgte

Mansoura, Byzantine Empire Gunboat laid down 1906

Displacement:
   500 t light; 538 t standard; 607 t normal; 662 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (209,97 ft / 209,97 ft) x 26,25 ft x (7,20 / 7,71 ft)
   (64,00 m / 64,00 m) x 8,00 m  x (2,20 / 2,35 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1906 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 93,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 6 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 282 lbs / 128 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17,7" / 450 mm, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m torpedoes - 0,599 t each, 1,197 t total

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 175 ihp / 876 Kw = 15,06 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 124 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   60 - 79

Cost:
   £0,065 million / $0,258 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 69 tons, 11,4 %
      - Guns: 68 tons, 11,2 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0,2 %
   Armour: 9 tons, 1,4 %
      - Armament: 9 tons, 1,4 %
   Machinery: 166 tons, 27,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 226 tons, 37,3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 106 tons, 17,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 4,9 %
      - On freeboard deck: 20 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     470 lbs / 213 Kg = 4,4 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
   Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 11,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 83 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,78
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,48

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,535 / 0,545
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14,49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  11,48 ft / 3,50 m,  10,83 ft / 3,30 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  6,89 ft / 2,10 m,  6,89 ft / 2,10 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  6,89 ft / 2,10 m,  6,89 ft / 2,10 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  6,89 ft / 2,10 m,  6,89 ft / 2,10 m
      - Average freeboard:      7,73 ft / 2,36 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 125,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 75,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 793 Square feet or 352 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 47 lbs/sq ft or 232 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,67
      - Overall: 1,00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

QuoteAs SS3's torpedo calculations are pretty unreliable, we still use miscellaneous weights for that. Also are your MG crews trigger happy? That's a lot of rounds. Minor nit would be that you simmed it with a ram bow but it does not appear to have one (length oa is the same as length wl with no stern overhang and no angled bow) although it has no effect of the sim of the vessel. Other than that a nice little vessel I think.

These are not final SS. They need minor adjustments.

Jef   ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#4
Abdul Kadir, Byzantine Empire BB laid down 1892

Displacement:
   8 100 t light; 8 472 t standard; 8 861 t normal; 9 172 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (350,90 ft / 339,90 ft) x 64,96 ft x (23,41 / 24,08 ft)
   (106,95 m / 103,60 m) x 19,80 m  x (7,14 / 7,34 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1892 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,94lbs / 5,87kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      8 - 1,50" / 38,1 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1,70lbs / 0,77kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 80,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 788 lbs / 1 265 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,00" / 229 mm   226,00 ft / 68,88 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   5,00" / 127 mm   100,00 ft / 30,48 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     13,89 ft / 4,24 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5,00" / 127 mm   226,00 ft / 68,88 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
     Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10,0" / 254 mm   4,00" / 102 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   2,00" / 51 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2,50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 1,25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1,25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9,00" / 229 mm, Aft 5,00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11 179 ihp / 8 340 Kw = 18,07 kts
   Range 2 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 700 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   456 - 593

Cost:
   £0,807 million / $3,227 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 566 tons, 6,4 %
      - Guns: 566 tons, 6,4 %
   Armour: 2 837 tons, 32,0 %
      - Belts: 1 519 tons, 17,1 %
      - Armament: 508 tons, 5,7 %
      - Armour Deck: 681 tons, 7,7 %
      - Conning Towers: 129 tons, 1,5 %
   Machinery: 2 129 tons, 24,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 464 tons, 27,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 761 tons, 8,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 103 tons, 1,2 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 65 tons
      - Above deck: 30 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8 704 lbs / 3 948 Kg = 17,4 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 1,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32
   Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 13,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,43

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,604
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,44 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  16,00 ft / 4,88 m,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00 %,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,07 ft / 4,59 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 16 149 Square feet or 1 500 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 568 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 2,61
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

4x450TT
Rearmed in 1905 with the British 10" turrets (HMS Swiftsure)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#5
Originaly classed as Ironclad, Hydra class were rebuilt in 1900 & 1905 to Armored Cruiser
They receive new VTE engines for 18kts & the British 10" guns.
They are probably the older ships use in the Byzantine Navy.
They are used as stationary

Hydra - Psara - Spetsai, Byzantine Empire AC laid down 1890 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   5 000 t light; 5 255 t standard; 5 557 t normal; 5 798 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (334,65 ft / 334,65 ft) x 51,84 ft x (18,38 / 19,04 ft)
   (102,00 m / 102,00 m) x 15,80 m  x (5,60 / 5,80 m)

Armament:
      2 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      1 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal gun - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading gun in deck and hoist mount, 1905 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      4 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on side ends, majority forward
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 1 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2 030 lbs / 921 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   225,00 ft / 68,58 m   6,00 ft / 1,83 m
   Ends:   1,75" / 44 mm   100,00 ft / 30,48 m   5,00 ft / 1,52 m
     9,65 ft / 2,94 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1,75" / 44 mm   225,00 ft / 68,58 m   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1,00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1,00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5,00" / 127 mm, Aft 4,00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 260 ihp / 6 162 Kw = 18,07 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 544 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   321 - 418

Cost:
   £0,522 million / $2,087 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 480 tons, 8,6 %
      - Guns: 480 tons, 8,6 %
   Armour: 1 416 tons, 25,5 %
      - Belts: 962 tons, 17,3 %
      - Armament: 106 tons, 1,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 288 tons, 5,2 %
      - Conning Towers: 61 tons, 1,1 %
   Machinery: 1 291 tons, 23,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 785 tons, 32,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 557 tons, 10,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 28 tons, 0,5 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6 097 lbs / 2 766 Kg = 12,2 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23
   Metacentric height 2,7 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 13,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 95 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,90
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,91

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,610 / 0,614
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,29 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Average freeboard:      17,15 ft / 5,23 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 12 806 Square feet or 1 190 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 499 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,88
      - Longitudinal: 2,93
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#6
Kilkis - Lemnos, Byzantine Empire BB laid down 1904

Displacement:
   11 900 t light; 12 694 t standard; 13 794 t normal; 14 674 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (391,89 ft / 381,89 ft) x 77,10 ft x (25,00 / 26,35 ft)
   (119,45 m / 116,40 m) x 23,50 m  x (7,62 / 8,03 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12,01" / 305 mm 45,0 cal guns - 873,08lbs / 396,02kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7 026 lbs / 3 187 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9,00" / 229 mm   250,00 ft / 76,20 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   5,00" / 127 mm   130,00 ft / 39,62 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     1,89 ft / 0,58 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   6,00" / 152 mm   250,00 ft / 76,20 m   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12,0" / 305 mm   3,00" / 76 mm      11,0" / 279 mm
   2nd:   6,00" / 152 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      5,00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 2,00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2,00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12,00" / 305 mm, Aft 10,00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 14 310 ihp / 10 675 Kw = 18,01 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 980 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   636 - 827

Cost:
   £1,324 million / $5,294 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 364 tons, 9,9 %
      - Guns: 1 364 tons, 9,9 %
   Armour: 4 401 tons, 31,9 %
      - Belts: 1 984 tons, 14,4 %
      - Armament: 1 136 tons, 8,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 008 tons, 7,3 %
      - Conning Towers: 273 tons, 2,0 %
   Machinery: 2 104 tons, 15,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 866 tons, 28,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 894 tons, 13,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 165 tons, 1,2 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons
      - Hull above water: 30 tons
      - Above deck: 125 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15 432 lbs / 7 000 Kg = 17,8 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
   Metacentric height 5,3 ft / 1,6 m
   Roll period: 14,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,656 / 0,662
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4,95 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  19,00 ft / 5,79 m,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m,  17,16 ft / 5,23 m
      - Average freeboard:      17,31 ft / 5,28 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 680 Square feet or 2 107 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 689 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,89
      - Longitudinal: 2,70
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Weight 165t:
10t for 12 torpedoes (3/sub.tube)
15t for extra pump installation
15t for climatization
25t for long range wireless
100t reserved
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#7
Hayreddin Barbarossa - Turgut Reis, Byzantine Empire BB laid down 1890

Displacement:
   11 330 t light; 11 848 t standard; 13 187 t normal; 14 257 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (389,59 ft / 379,59 ft) x 63,98 ft x (27,70 / 29,65 ft)
   (118,75 m / 115,70 m) x 19,50 m  x (8,44 / 9,04 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11,00" / 279 mm 45,0 cal guns - 671,17lbs / 304,44kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 504,26lbs / 228,73kg shells, 110 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1890 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      8 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1890 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4 060 lbs / 1 842 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   15,7" / 399 mm   220,00 ft / 67,06 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
   Ends:   6,00" / 152 mm   156,00 ft / 47,55 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     3,59 ft / 1,10 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   8,00" / 203 mm   220,00 ft / 67,06 m   11,00 ft / 3,35 m
     Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12,0" / 305 mm   3,00" / 76 mm      12,0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   10,0" / 254 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      10,0" / 254 mm
   3rd:   2,00" / 51 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,35" / 60 mm
   Forecastle: 1,56" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 1,56" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12,00" / 305 mm, Aft 10,00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 13 671 ihp / 10 198 Kw = 18,01 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 409 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   614 - 799

Cost:
   £1,114 million / $4,456 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 779 tons, 5,9 %
      - Guns: 779 tons, 5,9 %
   Armour: 4 423 tons, 33,5 %
      - Belts: 2 597 tons, 19,7 %
      - Armament: 785 tons, 6,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 777 tons, 5,9 %
      - Conning Towers: 265 tons, 2,0 %
   Machinery: 2 532 tons, 19,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 565 tons, 27,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 857 tons, 14,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 31 tons, 0,2 %
      - Hull below water: 6 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13 621 lbs / 6 178 Kg = 20,5 x 11,0 " / 279 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 3,5 ft / 1,1 m
   Roll period: 14,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,45

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,686 / 0,693
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  18,00 ft / 5,49 m,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m,  16,16 ft / 4,93 m
      - Average freeboard:      16,31 ft / 4,97 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 19 222 Square feet or 1 786 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 647 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 2,52
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

6t for 3sub TTx450 + 3 reloads
25t for long range wireless
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Walter

A few things you might want to correct with your minor adjustments...


The length of the 7.7mm MGs. You have these for each ship...

1904 - 7.7/93
1906 - 7.7/93
1892 - 7.7/80
1900 - 7.7/70
1904 - 7.7/50
1890 - 7.7/50

The early 1880s Maxim gun was 87 calibers long so you could stick to 7.7 mm/80 cal for a variety of the startup ships of the late 1880s, 1890s and 1900s. The 7.7 mm/93 cal could be an updated and improved version of your 7.7 mm/80 cal gun which would be introduced to the various Byzantine ships as of the mid 1900s or something like that. That's all up to you.

Also a few of them are listed as quick-firing guns instead of machine guns.

There is also the occasional gap between the main belt and ends belt which you might want to close with your minor adjustments.

Another minor detail is that there is no Britain as a nation so there are no British 10" guns you can use... but you are welcome to use the Norse Armstrong 250mm/45 caliber guns. :D Alternatively you could go for whatever Roman ~10"/45 guns they have from Edward Vickers... uhm... I mean Edwardius Vickerius (unless snip has banished Vickers from the Roman Empire). :)

Jefgte

Thanks for the infos about7,7 MG lenght.

About my SS:
I choose to use principaly British guns - different with the last Navalism restarts when I use US, German & French guns.
I choose also them as historical references.

Ships built from 1890 to 1899 had a main refit or rebuilt when they have 10yo.
=> A ship LD in 1892 could have 1902 guns or engines if neccessary (see Hydra class).
( OTL - Because Greece & Turkish had poor ships)

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#10
Better Hydra class with lower recoil

Hydra - Psara - Spetsai, Byzantine Empire AC laid down 1890 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   4 800 t light; 5 032 t standard; 5 326 t normal; 5 561 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (334,65 ft / 334,65 ft) x 51,84 ft x (18,06 / 18,71 ft)
   (102,00 m / 102,00 m) x 15,80 m  x (5,51 / 5,70 m)

Armament:
      2 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,66lbs / 178,11kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      1 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal gun - 392,66lbs / 178,11kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading gun in deck and hoist mount, 1902 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      4 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,93lbs / 49,41kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on side ends, majority forward
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 1 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 696 lbs / 769 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   225,00 ft / 68,58 m   6,00 ft / 1,83 m
   Ends:   1,75" / 44 mm   100,00 ft / 30,48 m   5,00 ft / 1,52 m
     9,65 ft / 2,94 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1,75" / 44 mm   225,00 ft / 68,58 m   14,00 ft / 4,27 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      2,00" / 51 mm
   3rd:   1,00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1,00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1,00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5,00" / 127 mm, Aft 4,00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 008 ihp / 5 974 Kw = 18,07 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 529 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   311 - 405

Cost:
   £0,478 million / $1,913 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 395 tons, 7,4 %
      - Guns: 395 tons, 7,4 %
   Armour: 1 402 tons, 26,3 %
      - Belts: 960 tons, 18,0 %
      - Armament: 99 tons, 1,9 %
      - Armour Deck: 284 tons, 5,3 %
      - Conning Towers: 59 tons, 1,1 %
   Machinery: 1 251 tons, 23,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 709 tons, 32,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 526 tons, 9,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 43 tons, 0,8 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6 410 lbs / 2 907 Kg = 16,5 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,26
   Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 12,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 95 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,71
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,595 / 0,600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,29 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Average freeboard:      17,15 ft / 5,23 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 132,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 12 628 Square feet or 1 173 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs/sq ft or 475 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,89
      - Longitudinal: 2,85
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

3 TT 450 with 2 reloads per TT
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

PB, Byzantine Empire PB laid down 1891

Displacement:
   125 t light; 128 t standard; 135 t normal; 140 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (137,80 ft / 137,80 ft) x 19,69 ft x (4,13 / 4,24 ft)
   (42,00 m / 42,00 m) x 6,00 m  x (1,26 / 1,29 m)

Armament:
      2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 3,19lbs / 1,45kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,25" / 6 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,25" / 6 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 190 ihp / 141 Kw = 11,56 kts
   Range 800nm at 8,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 12 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   19 - 25

Cost:
   £0,010 million / $0,039 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 1,1 %
      - Guns: 2 tons, 1,1 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 1,9 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 1,9 %
   Machinery: 36 tons, 27,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 64 tons, 47,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 10 tons, 7,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 14,9 %
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     281 lbs / 127 Kg = 88,7 x 1,9 " / 47 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25
   Metacentric height 0,7 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 10,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 89 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,84

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,420 / 0,425
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 11,74 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  8,53 ft / 2,60 m,  7,22 ft / 2,20 m
      - Forward deck:   32,00 %,  7,22 ft / 2,20 m,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   18,00 %,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m,  6,56 ft / 2,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      6,90 ft / 2,10 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 1 691 Square feet or 157 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 25 lbs/sq ft or 123 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 2,53
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

This ship is also equipped with sails
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

DD1894, Byzantine Empire 250T laid down 1894

Displacement:
   250 t light; 261 t standard; 276 t normal; 288 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (187,01 ft / 187,01 ft) x 19,69 ft x (6,56 / 6,75 ft)
   (57,00 m / 57,00 m) x 6,00 m  x (2,00 / 2,06 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 - 0,01" / 0,3 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells, 0 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      Weight of broadside 41 lbs / 19 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 300 ihp / 2 462 Kw = 22,29 kts
   Range 800nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 27 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   33 - 44

Cost:
   £0,033 million / $0,134 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 8 tons, 2,8 %
      - Guns: 8 tons, 2,8 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 0,9 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0,9 %
   Machinery: 162 tons, 58,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 70 tons, 25,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 26 tons, 9,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 8 tons, 2,9 %
      - On freeboard deck: 8 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     64 lbs / 29 Kg = 4,8 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,33
   Metacentric height 0,7 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 9,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 82 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,17

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,406
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 13,68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  9,02 ft / 2,75 m,  9,68 ft / 2,95 m
      - Forward deck:   25,00 %,  8,04 ft / 2,45 m,  7,71 ft / 2,35 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00 %,  7,71 ft / 2,35 m,  7,38 ft / 2,25 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  7,38 ft / 2,25 m,  7,05 ft / 2,15 m
      - Average freeboard:      7,94 ft / 2,42 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 197,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 2 266 Square feet or 211 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 22 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 87 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,56
      - Overall: 0,56
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

eltf177

Quote from: Jefgte on February 23, 2017, 05:19:45 PM
DD1894, Byzantine Empire 250T laid down 1894

Armament:
      2 - 0,01" / 0,3 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells, 0 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft

Couple of easily fixed problems here...

Walter

I was expecting that to be some sinister Byzantine needle gun weapon but the two guns have no needles to fire as it it set to 0. :)