Italian Speculative Ships

[Kaiser Kirk]

Walter : It's just the one I knew of and went looking for, probably from N3 when I was Bavaria. I like the Chinese version. I need a 800-1,000 ton brig to replace my current ones, and I want a ship rigged vessel like Marie Adelaide, so I may try that rule set.

Tangent : Well a Von Der Taan style BC this will be able to outspeed - if I up the ship ~1,000 tons I can keep the speed and field 10" guns which could hurt a VDT at these ranges....of course if I up it another 1,000 then I can add more armor, then another 1,000 for ...wait now she's too big.   The American Frigates are more an Invincible style, and should that become popular, then I can go with the 9.2" guns, as they can still punch a hole :) We'll see.

Jefgte : Depending on how folks develop their ships in the next several years I may take you up on that :)

[Walter]

N3? I don't think it was. thinking about it a bit, I think that the rule you used may have been from the previous startup attempt and the one I used from the one before that one.

I based my design on the Sedov which has a sailing speed of 18 knots. Kruzenshtern (which I might try to sim as well) has a sailing speed of just over 17 knots. With the rule you use, it's impossible to achieve as the maximum speed you can get with that one is 2/3 the hull speed. I'm slightly off with the length (wl) on my design (I think the Sedov's lwl is slightly under the 100m I used) but 2/3 the speed is 12 knots on my design which is 6 knots slower than the actual design can achieve which is quite a lot.

[Tanthalas]

I think it was for N4 with the proposed 1885 start up date (I think anyway that it was 1885).  there were ALOT of fights with that proposal...

[Kaiser Kirk]

I think it was for N4 with the proposed 1885 start up date (I think anyway that it was 1885).  there were ALOT of fights with that proposal...

That sounds right.
I'm actually kinda looking forward to redoing a couple sailing designs with Walter's version to see how they work.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Hmm ok found where I got my sailing rules - Darman dredged them up and Snip blessed them for this version : http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,6452.msg84155.html#msg84155

So the 230mm version is basically the lower 9" limit I was willing to go to.
I tried the French 240L48 220kg weapon, it seems to "cost" an additional 250-300 tons light to fit that. With the research savings that could definitely be a better choice than the 230L50 210kg.

However, a while ago I sat down with our gun research rules, and Logi's Ballistic tool, and SS to figure out the Bore/Shell Size/MV combinations for various Naval Gun techs, then went further to find out rotating rates of turrets. For example, I plan a 300L41 firing a 435kg shell at 799m/s, which will allow a twin 300L41 to be dropped in where my current 13.5"L30 or 12"L40 are currently, and will have roughly 15% better penetration. 
Granted by time I get there the cost of the refit combined with the age of the vessels will likely make it unfeasible for the 13.5".

Anyhow, as part of this I determined a 255mm (if rounding allowed, 10" otherwise) firing a 20% overweight shell...or a 255L50 firing a 275kg shell at 801m/s was possible, and would give me a very nice weapon with the desired MV. I could have a lighter faster shell, but at somepoint the barrel erosion makes it unworth it. So 255kg at 833m/s is also good, but I don't want to be firing a 225kg at 887m/s.

Anyhow, so this is the upper end [/i]San Giorgio[/i], now 1000 tons heavier, 5mm more armor, and 255L50 guns ....the draft went to 8m, which I don't like. Lots of harbors had depth limitations, so I wanted to stick to 7.5m for my cruisers.  Forecastle got raised, and I stuck an extra 120mm casement in each side.

She's about the size of my most recent Battleships, so I guess she's an Invincible style BC, but I think with a higher ROF and more barrels,  she'd win a golden twinkie contest with an  [/i]Invincible[/i] class and chew her up and spit her out- and she can avoid the German style BCs.  Though I was thinking about her armor arrangement - with the current set up, a shell hitting the belt will have to go the 195mm belt, travel a meter or two, hit the sloped 50mm deck, not deflect but penetrate, then pass another meter ...or three... and pass through the 25mm top of the TDS before it gets to the vitals. With 1910s fusings, I think she'd be pretty safe. Unless her magazine burned up.....

San Giorgio, Italian Armored Cruiser laid down 1908 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   17,428 t light; 18,572 t standard; 20,462 t normal; 21,975 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (561.53 ft / 554.46 ft) x 68.90 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (26.25 / 28.10 ft)
   (171.15 m / 169.00 m) x 21.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m)  x (8.00 / 8.56 m)

Armament:
      10 - 10.04" / 255 mm 50.0 cal guns - 606.27lbs / 275.00kg shells, 155 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      14 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 60.63lbs / 27.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     14 x Single mounts on side ends, majority forward
      14 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      4 double raised mounts
      16 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,397 lbs / 3,355 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.68" / 195 mm   454.66 ft / 138.58 m   9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Ends:   2.56" / 65 mm     99.77 ft / 30.41 m   9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Upper:   2.56" / 65 mm   387.14 ft / 118.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 126 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.30" / 33 mm   454.66 ft / 138.58 m   24.93 ft / 7.60 m

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.31" / 8 mm   454.66 ft / 138.58 m   19.72 ft / 6.01 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.46" / 215 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      7.68" / 195 mm
   2nd:   2.56" / 65 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks: 2.95" / 75 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.68" / 195 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 75,457 shp / 56,291 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 6,750nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,403 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   855 - 1,112

Cost:
   £1.769 million / $7.075 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,601 tons, 7.8 %
   Armour: 5,495 tons, 26.9 %
      - Belts: 1,838 tons, 9.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 545 tons, 2.7 %
      - Bulges: 104 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armament: 1,388 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,495 tons, 7.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 124 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 3,735 tons, 18.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,254 tons, 30.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,034 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 343 tons, 1.7 %
      - Bulge void weights: 300 tons
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - Above deck: 35 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     23,661 lbs / 10,732 Kg = 46.8 x 10.0 " / 255 mm shells or 3.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 16.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.76
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.625 / 0.627
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.04 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m
      - Aft deck:   37.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   8.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      22.84 ft / 6.96 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 28,597 Square feet or 2,657 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 150 lbs/sq ft or 733 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.75
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent


Upper Belt 65mm HE-proof upper belt is capped by 25mm deck.
The Upper belt is 2 deck levels high, protecting the side from HE rounds from the top of the Main Belt to the weather deck.
The upper belt is 118m long with casements at each end. This consumes 10m, and the remaining 5 guns on each side are evenly spaced 19m apart and divided by 25mm armored screens. 4 guns can bear forwards, and 3 aft on each beam.

The Main belt is raised 0.6m above the level of the protective deck to guard the slopes of the turtle back from diving shells, and decends to -1.72m below WL. That marks the top of the bulge.

Armored Deck 
Above the armored belt is a 25mm armored weather deck.
Fore and Aft of the citadel, sealing to the End belts, is also a 25mm protective deck crowning at at 0.72m above waterline and decending to -1.72m below.
A 50mm protective deck is fitted at the main deck level +0.72m above the waterline, and slopes 45deg down 1 deck (2.44m) to meet the outside hull at -1.72m below WL.

Torpedo Defense System is 1.5m bulge, hull, 1.5m fuel, 8mm bulkhead, 1.5m DC passage, 25mm bulkhead,   TDS system is 4.5m total depth, 3m within hull. There is also a double bottom.
The Torpedo bulkheads rise slightly above the waterline to seal to the bottom of the armored deck, which means the final 2.44m is also behind the main belt AND sloped turtleback deck.  This should guard against partial penetrations, or even full penetrations that quickly detonate.

This means that for a shell to penetrate to the vitals, it would have to defeat the main belt (195mm), the sloped armored deck (50mm) and the armored torpedo bulkhead (25mm) while traveling over 3 meters.


Misc Weight:
35t - Short & long range radio
300t - construction reserve
8t - Stern hull, above armored deck, is gallery for Torpedos, 2 trainable tubes each beam, 8 torpedoes.

Decks
+8.04 Forecastle Deck
+5.6   Top of upper belt, 25mm protective weatherdeck.
+3.16 Casement/ gun deck.
            +1.32 Top of Main belt
+0.72 Main Deck, Crown of turtleback protective deck, Top of TDS system
-1.72  Bottom edge of turtleback protective deck,  Bottom of Main belt, top of bulge.
-4.16
-7.60  Engineering deck, 3.44m high

[Walter]

"The Upper belt is 2 deck levels high"? Maybe I understand it wrong, but with an average then of 4 feet per deck (since the belt is ~8 ft high), I would assume that Italy uses midget people on those two decks. :)

... and TDS system? Torpedo Defense System system? Also, it is a bit questionable to my liking but maybe you simmed it deliberately like that.

Another thing is that I tried to resim the ship, but I end up at 0.99 hull strength. I got 1,469 tons for armament armor while you have 1,388 tons. I have looked at it several times, but I believe that I got all the bugs out that were there when I initially simmed it and that all the entered values are now the same as your values... but I have something slightly different. Considering that the wording in my SS3 report is slightly different from yours, I get the impression that you are using an earlier (and probably hull strength friendlier) version of SS3.


Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1908 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   17,428 t light; 18,572 t standard; 20,462 t normal; 21,975 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (561.53 ft / 554.46 ft) x 68.90 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (26.25 / 28.10 ft)
   (171.15 m / 169.00 m) x 21.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m)  x (8.00 / 8.56 m)

Armament:
      10 - 10.04" / 255 mm 50.0 cal guns - 606.27lbs / 275.00kg shells, 155 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      14 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 60.63lbs / 27.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     14 x Single mounts on side ends, majority forward
      14 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft (note: I cannot select "sides amidships" with SS3)
      4 double raised mounts
      16 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,397 lbs / 3,355 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.68" / 195 mm   454.66 ft / 138.58 m   9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Ends:   2.56" / 65 mm     99.77 ft / 30.41 m   9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Upper:   2.56" / 65 mm   387.14 ft / 118.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 126 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.30" / 33 mm   454.66 ft / 138.58 m   24.93 ft / 7.60 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 59.06 ft / 18.00 m

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.31" / 8 mm   454.66 ft / 138.58 m   19.72 ft / 6.01 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.46" / 215 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      7.68" / 195 mm
   2nd:   2.56" / 65 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.68" / 195 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 75,457 shp / 56,291 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 6,750nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,403 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   855 - 1,112

Cost:
   £1.769 million / $7.075 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,601 tons, 7.8 %
      - Guns: 1,601 tons, 7.8 %
   Armour: 5,575 tons, 27.2 %
      - Belts: 1,838 tons, 9.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 545 tons, 2.7 %
      - Bulges: 104 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armament: 1,469 tons, 7.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,495 tons, 7.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 124 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 3,735 tons, 18.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,174 tons, 30.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,034 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 343 tons, 1.7 %
      - Hull below water: 300 tons
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - Above deck: 35 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     22,971 lbs / 10,420 Kg = 45.4 x 10.0 " / 255 mm shells or 3.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 16.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.77
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.625 / 0.627
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.04 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m
      - Aft deck:   37.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   8.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      22.84 ft / 6.96 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 28,597 Square feet or 2,657 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 724 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.78
      - Overall: 0.99
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

[Tanthalas]

Engine year 1909 turbines are limited to 48,000 shp (12,000 HP/shaft 4 shaft limitation) so to get to 75,457 would require the 1909: Engine year 1912, Max. non-VTE power 20,000 HP/Shaft tech.  I have messed around with the 1909 tech a bit but havn't even started messing with the 1912 year yet.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Engine year 1909 turbines are limited to 48,000 shp (12,000 HP/shaft 4 shaft limitation) so to get to 75,457 would require the 1909: Engine year 1912, Max. non-VTE power 20,000 HP/Shaft tech.  I have messed around with the 1909 tech a bit but haven't even started messing with the 1912 year yet.

I should complete 1905 engine tech in HY2 1905, or failing that HY1 1906. Then I'll start the 1909.
I've got a 1908 build date as I was kinda figuring this would be HY2 1907 and HY11908 , right after I complete the 1909 engine tech.

1909: Engine year 1912, Max. non-VTE power 20,000 HP/Shaft

But that highlights something I've forgotten, which is if I'm planning on using a 1909 engine tech, I get to use 1912 engines.

Hmm, using the right engine year, I can push to 27.39knots, return the upper armor to it's proper height and have 0.04 comp hull left over.

While if I use the 1905 engine year and 48k, the ship will shrink to ~24.6knts and 15.8k tons. Which is still rather reasonable.

SS3 version
I use version 3b2a. June 2007.
I *thought* that's the right one.
There are however times that I finish a design, carefully tweaking up and down, save it, and then when I reopen it's magically lost .01 comp hull. At which point I remove some of the construction reserve..or something.
This however reopens at 1.00.

[/quote]"The Upper belt is 2 deck levels high"? Maybe I understand it wrong, but with an average then of 4 feet per deck (since the belt is ~8 ft high), I would assume that Italy uses midget people on those two decks[/quote]
ARGH.
I must have used the default to ensure the belt was longer than the engineering & magazine spaces. That also resets all the heights.
Upper belt used to be 4.28m high - 4.88m for the 2 deck levels, less the 0.6 for how high the main belt rises above the protective deck. The latter prevents shells from passing over the main belt and striking the sloped portion.
However, this explains why I had spare tonnage to improve the armor a smidge.

TDS
Yes, um, err, the Italians have a system for usage of their TDS, therefore it's a TDS System..... or I mucked up. You pick. :)
This is supposed to be 1908, when the concept is newish. Me, I'm on course to finish the research in HY1 or 2, 1906.
The Italians included an ineffectual one in the new BB as a 'mistake'. There will probably be a vessel or two with a simple armored bulkhead, and I'm guessing this generation will be their 2nd try.
The combination of a blister, liquid-filled area, and a void backed by an armored bulkhead would be pretty advanced for the time period, and pretty decent against the small warheads. Only adds 1 torpedo worth of resistance to the ship on paper, but if one considers how fast real british ACs with no torpedo protection went down, I figure it's worth it in Sim-reality. Further in the future, there will be more little bulkheads and layers and a bit more overall depth, while the armored bulkhead will get a bit heavier.

Sides amidship
The dropdown menu for that battery is at "sides-distributed" , which the report apparently translates as "sides amidship".
However it was meant to be sides-ends, I erred.

Beam between bulkheads should be 15m.

Miscellaneous weights: 343 tons, 1.7 %
      - Hull below water: 300 tons

I've taken to placing my "construction reserve" tonnage in the "void" spot.  As otherwise SS thinks there's a big bulky object at that location. Also easier for me to track later for refits. Doesn't seem to make a difference to on this vessel, albeit the version I have up I've already changed to 1912 engine year.

Armament weight
I can get mine to    - Armament: 1,441 tons, 7.0 %  if I raise the triples instead of the twins.

Hull space
Going back to my basic ship...
You  have :

Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space

and 106% used
While I have Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped and 126% used.

That's odd.

[Walter]

I use version 3b2a. June 2007.
I *thought* that's the right one.

The one I use is 3b3 from 2008 which I have been using for S3 sims since... well 2008 I guess.

One thing is that the rules do not specify which version we should use. It just says "SS3 is the program we use" which to me says that both versions can be used. I have 3B2 in the directory right above 3B3 so I will try to mess around with that one later to see what it does.

Only adds 1 torpedo worth of resistance to the ship on paper, but if one considers how fast real british ACs with no torpedo protection went down, I figure it's worth it in Sim-reality.

The thing I do not like about it is that the Sim-reality is that the 8mm hull bulge armor isn't going to do much of anything and considering that the TDS is sticking 72 cm above the waterline, that means that the remaining 688 cm is below the waterline while the ship's depth is 800 cm meaning that you have a ~100 cm gap at the bottom where a slightly deeper running torpedo can easily get through if the Italians are unlucky and the ship will probably go down just as fast as the British ACs did.

The dropdown menu for that battery is at "sides-distributed" , which the report apparently translates as "sides amidship".

3b3 does it properly and turn it into "on sides, evenly spread"... though I have had a few occasions where I would have loved to have the "sides amidship" option with 3b3. Instead I either use "forward deck aft" or "aft deck forward" option to solve that.

Beam between bulkheads should be 15m.

Man, I keep messing up with that, forgetting to apply TDS stuff to both sides. First with the bulges which I thought were incorrect, but then realized that I should not be subtracting 1.5 meters but 3 meters. and with this I was subtracting 3 meters instead of 6 meters.

I've taken to placing my "construction reserve" tonnage in the "void" spot.

Missed that, although to me it makes absolutely no sense to have "construction reserve" or "future grown" what I have seen on Wesworld designs. It is not there and realistically when in the near future you are going to add something to the design that is 300 tons, your ship is going to be 300 tons heavier and is going to sit slightly deeper in the water. It's not like the designers say "lets put 300 tons of lead in there because in the future we are going to add something that is 300 tons heavy and then we can remove that lead and put that 300 ton thing on the ship."

I can get mine to    - Armament: 1,441 tons, 7.0 %  if I raise the triples instead of the twins.

If I go for triples and twin, I can get to about 1,420 tons but since you simmed them as 3-gun and 2-gun turrets, I used that and the 2-gun turrets were the ones raised, even though the SS report does not show that.

and 106% used
While I have Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped and 126% used.

That's odd.

Actually that one is not odd at all. My 106% is caused by the fact that, like I indicated above, I subtracted 3 meters of depth from the beam instead of 2x 3 meters of depth from the beam. Not sure if I would actually end up at 126% but I know it will be higher than what I have if I decrease the "Beam between torpedo bulkheads".

[Kaiser Kirk]

Hmm, well I'm glad I don't need to go back and redo all my designs.
I think I have two versions on my laptop, I wonder if one 3b3?

- I'm guessing it's also in the Upper Belt category - I messed it up when I hit the final default. I had been adding height to account for it being above the waterline.
If you look back at the 230mm version with the 7.5m deep hull,

   Upper:   1.97" / 50 mm   426.94 ft / 130.13 m   14.37 ft / 4.38 m
     Main Belt covers 118 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.30" / 33 mm   426.94 ft / 130.13 m   27.49 ft / 8.38 m

I got it right back on that one, just seemed to have rushed the 255mm adaptation :(

- Otherwise, when you hit "default" it's never as deep as your ship, so I presume that's the difference between the exterior hull and the first deck. I presume the idea is there is double bottom..or bilges, as the hull is rounding there...or maybe the keel. Ships 8m deep with a 7.6m deep interior, where does that .4m go?  Anyhow in my notes I say it's a double bottom.   
- I note in many other places the 8mm of hull armor on my bulges is really my way of "paying" for the bulge.  Adding a "bulge" in SS to your ship 'costs' no tonnage, but gives you little benefits. So my vessels sport 6-8mm bulge material to account for that structural weight and is my self-imposed penalty. 
- In general, my impression from reading is the data for  "deck armor" or "TDS" armor listed in various sources is a combination of actual armor, laminated onto the structural steel backing. I figure I'm just paying the armor steel in the rest of the TDS. It does make judging how much to actually allocate hard. I do believe 1/4-1/3" of STS was used by the USN for some of the interior bulkheads...though like much of my data it's based on long ago readings.
-Actually, at 1.5m on each side, the bulge gives decent standoff distance for gaseous expansion. Further, the Germans specifically used very light plating so that when the torpedo or mine goes, the plating doesn't become a heavy projectile to perforate later bulkheads. So it has a purpose. Total expansion space at 4.5m is fairly good.

-I forget to apply the distances to both sides as well.  In some books I see totals that me think the authors are combining both sides.

-Construction reserve - I've got one on most of my designs since wesworld. Seems I'm always coming back to add something.
In real life, when they added a 6/50 in place of a 6/45...or bolted on AA guns, etc....the ship just sat deeper. If it became a problem, they blistered the hull, and up it rose.
Here, I add slightly larger guns, or those hordes of Anti-Torpedo boat guns you saw stuck in turret roofs in the early 1900s...and my comp hull becomes unacceptable. Then people will proclaim that my ship will sink or suffer mod wrath or something dire.

So...how do I allow for that inevitable expansion, while not having my vessel slip below 1.00?

My answer is to have a construction reserve. Now, I could just leave a higher comp hull, but we're allowed to subtract the cost of non-functional miscellaneous weight from the cost of the vessel, we are not allowed to subtract higher comp hull. Apparently, Lead is cheap, but lack of lead costs extra. I didn't make the rules.
The rules do however provide for a construction reserve, it's talked about in the refit section. The downside is some of the higher level refits charge more for changing construction reserve than for changing comp hull. I decided to take the price break up front...and it gives me an easy way to round my ship costs to an even number.

-Yes, I have them as 3-gun and 2-gun turrets, which I refer to as triple and twins because it's easier. The 2-gun are the raised ones. I presume the different is the triple & twins are on a single sleeve, while the 3-gun and 2-gun have independent barrels.

-Sad to say the actual "beam between bulkheads" number seems to have little interaction with the rest.  Wonder if that is fixed in 3b.

So, out of curiosity, I "fixed" the ship, and also put in 1905 engine tech...1909 engines at 48,000shp.
She got a little slimmer, and the engineering spaces shrunk some.
I left off all the notes babbling.

San Giorgio, Italian Armored Cruiser laid down 1908 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   16,135 t light; 17,251 t standard; 19,055 t normal; 20,498 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (561.53 ft / 554.46 ft) x 68.90 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (26.25 / 28.09 ft)
   (171.15 m / 169.00 m) x 21.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m)  x (8.00 / 8.56 m)

Armament:
      10 - 10.04" / 255 mm 50.0 cal guns - 606.27lbs / 275.00kg shells, 155 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      14 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 60.63lbs / 27.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      14 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      4 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides forward
      4 double raised mounts
      16 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 24.25lbs / 11.00kg shells, 350 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,397 lbs / 3,355 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.68" / 195 mm   415.85 ft / 126.75 m   9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Ends:   2.56" / 65 mm   138.58 ft / 42.24 m   9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Upper:   2.56" / 65 mm   415.85 ft / 126.75 m   14.04 ft / 4.28 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.30" / 33 mm   415.85 ft / 126.75 m   27.30 ft / 8.32 m

   - Hull Bulges:
      0.31" / 8 mm   415.85 ft / 126.75 m   19.72 ft / 6.01 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.66" / 220 mm   6.10" / 155 mm      7.68" / 195 mm
   2nd:   2.56" / 65 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks: 2.95" / 75 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.68" / 195 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 48,000 shp / 35,808 Kw = 24.50 kts
   Range 6,750nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,247 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   810 - 1,054

Cost:
   £1.533 million / $6.133 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,601 tons, 8.4 %
   Armour: 5,609 tons, 29.4 %
      - Belts: 2,051 tons, 10.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 546 tons, 2.9 %
      - Bulges: 96 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armament: 1,401 tons, 7.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,397 tons, 7.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 118 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 2,376 tons, 12.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,071 tons, 31.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,919 tons, 15.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 478 tons, 2.5 %
      - Bulge void weights: 435 tons
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - Above deck: 35 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     26,477 lbs / 12,010 Kg = 52.3 x 10.0 " / 255 mm shells or 4.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 17.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.96
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.47

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.582 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.04 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m,  26.38 ft / 8.04 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      22.86 ft / 6.97 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 27,473 Square feet or 2,552 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 150 lbs/sq ft or 734 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.87
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily