NPC Design contest: Brazilian Battleship 1904

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Note: This is the first of a formal series of design contests the mods will be putting on for various minor nations. This is to give a better idea of the capabilities of some of these nations without doing full on sim reports for them. Also meant to be fun for you guys as well. Don't feel bound to the restrictions if you feel you can do better. Creative sales pitches encouraged! The thread will remain pinned until the winner is chosen.

Brazil is placing a general tender for a class of three battleships from the shipyards of the major naval nations. The Brazilian Navy is looking for designs that have a broadside of at least six large caliber guns, a speed of at least 19knts, and armor sufficient to stop rounds from common armored cruiser weapons. Brazil is willing to pay $27.60 over two years for each ship. The payment includes the cost of construction and materials. The tender also notes that whoever wins this order will get preference for possible future orders. The order would formally be placed during the later half of 1904, and designs will be accepted up until that point.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Tanthalas

The Dutch submit for consideration AF-1904-4X2T, this is a fully modern design in every respect and is fully capable of meeting or exceeding every respect of the proposed contract.

Minas Geraes, Unified Netherlands (For Brazil) Armoured Frigate (Battleship) laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   13,900 t light; 14,649 t standard; 16,121 t normal; 17,298 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (520.00 ft / 520.00 ft) x 79.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.49 ft)
   (158.50 m / 158.50 m) x 24.08 m  x (8.23 / 8.68 m)

Armament:
      8 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      20 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.00lbs / 13.61kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     20 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      12 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      4 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.00lbs / 13.61kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,248 lbs / 3,288 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   338.00 ft / 103.02 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   181.98 ft / 55.47 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   338.00 ft / 103.02 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20,000 shp / 14,920 Kw = 20.04 kts
   Range 7,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,649 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   714 - 929

Cost:
   £1.318 million / $5.273 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,310 tons, 8.1 %
      - Guns: 1,310 tons, 8.1 %
   Armour: 5,513 tons, 34.2 %
      - Belts: 2,747 tons, 17.0 %
      - Armament: 1,193 tons, 7.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,352 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Towers: 220 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 1,650 tons, 10.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,135 tons, 31.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,221 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 292 tons, 1.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 292 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     21,192 lbs / 9,613 Kg = 31.8 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 3.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 16.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.40

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.509 / 0.517
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.58 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.80 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -8.50 ft / -2.59 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.61 ft / 4.76 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 67.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 27,589 Square feet or 2,563 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 145 lbs/sq ft or 707 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.65
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

292 tons Misc Weight
25 tons long range Wireless
17 tons Flag Facilities
250 tons Reserve
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

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I have moved all the economic discussion to here. Please keep this thread for designs and discussion of such.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Darman

Armstrong-Vickers design

A-V Proposal, United Kingdom Battleship laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   11,875 t light; 12,558 t standard; 13,315 t normal; 13,920 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (454.82 ft / 450.00 ft) x 58.00 ft x (30.00 / 31.11 ft)
   (138.63 m / 137.16 m) x 17.68 m  x (9.14 / 9.48 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 828.07lbs / 375.60kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 108.92lbs / 49.41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1893 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 14.29lbs / 6.48kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6,940 lbs / 3,148 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   7.00" / 178 mm   115.00 ft / 35.05 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   7.00" / 178 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 2.00" / 51 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 22,408 ihp / 16,716 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,362 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   619 - 805

Cost:
   £1.373 million / $5.492 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,093 tons, 8.2 %
   Armour: 3,993 tons, 30.0 %
      - Belts: 2,365 tons, 17.8 %
      - Armament: 823 tons, 6.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 659 tons, 5.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 145 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 3,215 tons, 24.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,327 tons, 25.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,440 tons, 10.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 247 tons, 1.9 %
      - Hull above water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 97 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,594 lbs / 3,445 Kg = 8.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.99
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.04

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.595 / 0.600
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.76 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.21 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.50 ft / 3.51 m,  11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.50 ft / 3.51 m,  11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.50 ft / 3.51 m,  11.50 ft / 3.51 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.80 ft / 3.90 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 67.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,003 Square feet or 1,765 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 605 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.04
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

AQY
Misc Weight
25t above deck for long range wireless
25t above deck flagship facilities
25t on deck for flag staff quarters
100t hull above water for 50 extra marines
72t on deck: extra boats
Includes 4 9-ton 37ft steam pinnaces (range 50nm@9kts, passengers: 8)

Boats and additional Marine complement give the Brazilians extra ship-to-shore or ship-to-ship force projection capabilities allowing the to perform maritime search-and-seizure operations as well as limited operations against shore-based objectives. 

Tanthalas

Dutch Proposal B

AFX-1903, Unified Netherlands Armoured Frigate laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   12,500 t light; 13,147 t standard; 14,503 t normal; 15,588 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (519.00 ft / 519.00 ft) x 74.00 ft x (26.00 / 27.47 ft)
   (158.19 m / 158.19 m) x 22.56 m  x (7.92 / 8.37 m)

Armament:
      8 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      20 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 14.00lbs / 6.35kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     18 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6,408 lbs / 2,907 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   337.35 ft / 102.82 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   181.63 ft / 55.36 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   337.35 ft / 102.82 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      7.00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 18,559 shp / 13,845 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 7,040nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,442 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   660 - 859

Cost:
   £1.208 million / $4.833 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,176 tons, 8.1 %
      - Guns: 1,176 tons, 8.1 %
   Armour: 4,852 tons, 33.5 %
      - Belts: 2,724 tons, 18.8 %
      - Armament: 849 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,113 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 167 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 1,531 tons, 10.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,641 tons, 32.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,003 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2.1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18,990 lbs / 8,614 Kg = 28.5 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.67
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.42

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.508 / 0.517
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.01 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.78 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.61 ft / 4.76 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 107.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 25,784 Square feet or 2,395 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 137 lbs/sq ft or 668 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

300 tons Misc weight for stuff

While all are heavier than the current British proposals, the Dutch would like to draw attention to their superior guns, and larger number on their proposals.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Darman

Barrow Yards, United Kingdom Battleship laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   11,950 t light; 12,578 t standard; 13,344 t normal; 13,956 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (500.00 ft / 500.00 ft) x 68.00 ft x (25.00 / 25.90 ft)
   (152.40 m / 152.40 m) x 20.73 m  x (7.62 / 7.90 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 828.07lbs / 375.60kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 108.92lbs / 49.41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.62lbs / 6.18kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6,466 lbs / 2,933 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.75" / 248 mm   313.00 ft / 95.40 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   5.00" / 127 mm   187.00 ft / 57.00 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   313.00 ft / 95.40 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 96 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks: 2.00" / 51 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 17,934 ihp / 13,379 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,378 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   620 - 807

Cost:
   £1.262 million / $5.048 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,016 tons, 7.6 %
   Armour: 4,270 tons, 32.0 %
      - Belts: 2,490 tons, 18.7 %
      - Armament: 856 tons, 6.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 802 tons, 6.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 121 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 2,573 tons, 19.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,066 tons, 30.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,394 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 0.2 %
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,153 lbs / 5,966 Kg = 15.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.549 / 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.35 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.36 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.40 ft / 4.39 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,716 Square feet or 2,203 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 631 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.42
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Layout: AQY
25t above deck long range radio

Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: Darman on March 21, 2016, 12:32:10 PM

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (500.00 ft / 500.00 ft) x 68.00 ft x (25.00 / 25.90 ft)
   (152.40 m / 152.40 m) x 20.73 m  x (7.62 / 7.90 m)

   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.549 / 0.555
   

The lowest beam on a period T2 12" that I've come across is the 1899 Petropavlovsk at 70ft, and she must have had a BC about .58. You're talking about 3 big holes in the hull girder, a slightly smaller beam, and a slighter bc- so even less beam where the turrets actually are. I admit to pushing things in my Italian ships, but I'm of the opinion this ship pushes to many elements .
Of course if you can come up with an example, great, my ships can get more svelte :)   But ships like the 1886 Colossus which had T2 12" and a 68ft beam...they were Cole style turrets and square amidships where the beam's broadest, and I bet the BC was higher.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Darman

Tried to completely redo the design but keep the guns and armor. 

No. 2 Design, Barrow Yards Battleship laid down 1904 (Engine 1905)

Displacement:
   10,875 t light; 11,434 t standard; 12,137 t normal; 12,699 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (400.00 ft / 400.00 ft) x 70.00 ft x (25.00 / 25.95 ft)
   (121.92 m / 121.92 m) x 21.34 m  x (7.62 / 7.91 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 828.07lbs / 375.60kg shells, 75 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      10 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 108.92lbs / 49.41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1893 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 5.70lbs / 2.58kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 6,126 lbs / 2,779 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   293.00 ft / 89.31 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   5.00" / 127 mm   107.00 ft / 32.61 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   293.00 ft / 89.31 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 113 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      7.00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   0.75" / 19 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks: 1.75" / 44 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 18,949 ihp / 14,136 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,265 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   577 - 751

Cost:
   £1.229 million / $4.915 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 961 tons, 7.9 %
   Armour: 3,781 tons, 31.2 %
      - Belts: 2,314 tons, 19.1 %
      - Armament: 734 tons, 6.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 619 tons, 5.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 114 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 2,719 tons, 22.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,388 tons, 27.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,262 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 0.2 %
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10,170 lbs / 4,613 Kg = 11.8 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
   Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.607 / 0.612
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.48 ft / 4.41 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,610 Square feet or 1,915 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 627 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.03
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

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25t long range radio