France 1890 restart

Jefgte · July 16, 2014, 05:24:28 PM

Loire, France Transport laid down 1896 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   2 032 t light; 2 084 t standard; 2 530 t normal; 2 887 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 52.49 ft x (12.24 / 13.66 ft)
   (70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 16.00 m x (3.73 / 4.16 m)

Armament:
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.19lbs / 1.45kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 260 ihp / 940 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 803 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   177 - 231

Cost:
   £0.104 million / $0.417 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.1 %
     - Guns: 1 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.1 %
     - Armament: 2 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 233 tons, 9.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 696 tons, 27.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 497 tons, 19.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1 100 tons, 43.5 %
     - Hull below water: 500 tons
     - Hull above water: 500 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 341 lbs / 2 423 Kg = 1 686.2 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.74
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 10.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.614
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.38 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   18.00 %, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
     - Aft deck:   32.00 %, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
     - Average freeboard:      14.49 ft / 4.42 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 8 817 Square feet or 819 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 161 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 57 lbs/sq ft or 277 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 3.04
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight; 1100t
100t of coal
1000t of different store

Loire
Loing
Yonne
Marne

cost : 0.58BP x 4 = 2.32BP

Jefgte · July 16, 2014, 05:40:09 PM

Saone, France Tender laid down 1896 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   740 t light; 760 t standard; 973 t normal; 1 144 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (164.04 ft / 164.04 ft) x 32.81 ft x (10.55 / 12.06 ft)
   (50.00 m / 50.00 m) x 10.00 m x (3.22 / 3.68 m)

Armament:
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.19lbs / 1.45kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 749 ihp / 559 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 384 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   86 - 113

Cost:
   £0.046 million / $0.183 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.1 %
     - Guns: 1 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.2 %
     - Armament: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 139 tons, 14.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 238 tons, 24.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 233 tons, 24.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 360 tons, 37.0 %
     - Hull below water: 160 tons
     - Hull above water: 160 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 40 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1 570 lbs / 712 Kg = 495.5 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.58
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 9.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.617
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 12.81 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   14.00 %, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Aft deck:   36.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Average freeboard:      10.39 ft / 3.17 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 85.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 936 Square feet or 366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 151 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 193 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.87
      - Longitudinal: 3.26
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight; 360t
60t of coal
300t of different store

Saone
Rhone
Durance
Isère
Tarn
Lot

cost : 0.185BP x 6 = 1.11BP
0.74$ x6 = 4.44$

Jefgte · July 16, 2014, 06:01:26 PM

Alpes, France Hopital Ship laid down 1898 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   1 350 t light; 1 384 t standard; 1 669 t normal; 1 897 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 39.37 ft x (10.77 / 11.97 ft)
   (70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 12.00 m x (3.28 / 3.65 m)

Armament:
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.19lbs / 1.45kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 951 ihp / 710 Kw = 12.00 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 513 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   129 - 169

Cost:
   £0.068 million / $0.274 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.1 %
     - Guns: 1 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.1 %
     - Armament: 2 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 149 tons, 8.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 474 tons, 28.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 319 tons, 19.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 725 tons, 43.4 %
     - Hull below water: 125 tons
     - Hull above water: 300 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 300 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4 045 lbs / 1 835 Kg = 1 276.9 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
   Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 12.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.613
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   20.00 %, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
     - Aft deck:   20.00 %, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m
     - Quarter deck:   30.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
     - Average freeboard:      13.39 ft / 4.08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 57.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 6 613 Square feet or 614 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 162 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 47 lbs/sq ft or 230 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.68
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight; 725t
100t of medical magasin
125t for hospital
500t for 200 beds

Alpes
Pyrénnées
Jura
Massif Central

cost :0.3375BP x 4 = 1.350BP

Jefgte · July 16, 2014, 06:21:48 PM

R1 to R18, France Tug laid down 1898 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   160 t light; 165 t standard; 196 t normal; 221 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (98.43 ft / 98.43 ft) x 19.69 ft x (5.91 / 6.54 ft)
   (30.00 m / 30.00 m) x 6.00 m x (1.80 / 1.99 m)

Armament:
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.19lbs / 1.45kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 6 lbs / 3 kg

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 800 ihp / 597 Kw = 14.62 kts
   Range 2 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 56 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   26 - 34

Cost:
   £0.019 million / $0.077 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.6 %
     - Guns: 1 tons, 0.6 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.9 %
     - Armament: 2 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 94 tons, 47.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 47 tons, 24.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 36 tons, 18.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 8.2 %
     - On freeboard deck: 16 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     96 lbs / 44 Kg = 30.4 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.52
   Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 8.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.59

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.611
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 9.92 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 71 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   20.00 %, 8.69 ft / 2.65 m, 8.69 ft / 2.65 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 4.76 ft / 1.45 m, 4.76 ft / 1.45 m
     - Aft deck:   20.00 %, 4.76 ft / 1.45 m, 4.76 ft / 1.45 m
     - Quarter deck:   30.00 %, 4.76 ft / 1.45 m, 4.76 ft / 1.45 m
     - Average freeboard:      5.54 ft / 1.69 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 156.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 48.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 1 386 Square feet or 129 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 72 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 114 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Misc weight; 16t
16t for harbor tender work

Engine 800 shp for tug work
Good seaboat @ 10kts, max speed allowed.

cost 0.04BP x 18 = 0.72BP

Jefgte · October 10, 2014, 05:31:46 PM

Going to add Auxiliairies in the Fleet.
Add costs.

> Costs in the 1900H1 repport

Jef

Jefgte · October 11, 2014, 04:40:05 PM

AUXILLIARIES		Dep	LD	Cost
Troop Transport	Ville d'Alger (6 in the class)	6900t	1896	10,35BP
Collier	Chaumont (10 in the class)	3000t	1894	7,5BP
Transport	Loire ( 4 in the class)	2032t	1896	2,32BP
Tender	Saone ( 6 in the class)	740t	1896	1,11BP & 4,44$
Hopital	Alpes ( 4 ships in the class)	1350t	1898	1,35BP
Tug	R1 to R18	160t	1898	0,72BP

			TOTAL	23,35BP & 4,44$

With a cost of 23.35BP for auxilliaries, BP for 1900H1 & H2 are going to be short for warships...

Jef

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