Royal Navy 1902

[Kaiser Kirk]

ahh missed that.  Or forgot it.
Only noted the tech says when you can stop allocating short range space.
Guess I have refits to do.

[Darman]

Actually, i probably ought to be adding some radios during overhauls/refits.  Ah well.  How do you like the hospital ship?  I kinda just BS-ed all the numbers, I figured 4 tons per bed seemed appropriate, plus medical stores, operating rooms, etc.  Unless you think that the "extra medical stores" is included in the 4t allocated per casualty?

[Kaiser Kirk]

No, I think the extra medical stores would be separate.
It's more detailed than what I did - I allocated 8 tons/patient, but then I was mainly using up spare BP from my prebuild on auxiliaries, and that ship was last- and tiny comparatively.

For the UK, you had a distinct need for them in the Crimea, and you have the wealth to indulge in them.
Don't like the 13kt speed though. USN tests found cruising speeds over 10kt less efficient with Compound drive, but I suppose speed is useful for getting wounded to a safe harbor.

[Darman]

No, I think the extra medical stores would be separate.
It's more detailed than what I did - I allocated 8 tons/patient, but then I was mainly using up spare BP from my prebuild on auxiliaries, and that ship was last- and tiny comparatively.

For the UK, you had a distinct need for them in the Crimea, and you have the wealth to indulge in them.
Don't like the 13kt speed though. USN tests found cruising speeds over 10kt less efficient with Compound drive, but I suppose speed is useful for getting wounded to a safe harbor.

I was looking for a fast troopship, which is what the hospital ship is based off. 

Think 75 medical personnel is enough?

[Kaiser Kirk]

Uh......I really don't have much to go on there.
75 folks, including Doctors, nurses and orderlies, plus any stretcher bearers. Figure 5 doctors, 10 orderlies and 60 nurses?  30 for the Day shift and 30 for the night? So 1 nurse per 25 patients?

I believe California law requires a nurse per 5 beds in a normal hospital, and it used to be more like 1:10.
I know my dad once told me wounding a foe was considered superior because of all the folks it would tie up.
Wish I could ask my Aunt, she worked in a field hospital in 1965, so would have known.

Overall....less than 1:10 for combat casualties might be a bit light, but hey it's 1902, we just give you a lot of morphine and the last rites....

[The Rock Doctor]

I generally work with something close to a 1:1 staff/patient ratio, but that's kind of based on more modern hospital ships.  Don't know if it applies to 1900-era stuff.

[Darman]

i might drop a hundred patients an use the freed up space for 200 more pharmacist mates, orderlies, etc.  This would bring the ratio back up to 1.8:1 (plus my 50 officers rooms)

[Darman]

Xperimental, United Kingdom Hospital Ship laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   6,900 t light; 7,064 t standard; 8,169 t normal; 9,053 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (454.00 ft / 454.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (24.00 / 26.10 ft)
   (138.38 m / 138.38 m) x 13.72 m  x (7.32 / 7.96 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,037 ihp / 4,504 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 13.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,990 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   429 - 558

Cost:
   £0.374 million / $1.494 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 943 tons, 11.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,817 tons, 22.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,269 tons, 15.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 4,140 tons, 50.7 %
      - Hull below water: 500 tons
      - Hull above water: 3,300 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 290 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,395 lbs / 1,994 Kg = 40.7 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 0.86
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 18.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.583 / 0.594
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.31 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 30 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.80 ft / 5.12 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,708 Square feet or 1,366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 319 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.68
      - Overall: 1.00
   Caution: Poor stability - excessive risk of capsizing
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

25t above deck for wireless
25t above deck for boat equipment
77t on deck for 6 9-ton 37-ft steam pinnaces
Medical Equippage
500t below water level
     *quarters for 75 medical personnel (150t)
     *medical stores (175t)
     *morge (100t)
     *additional food-stores for special diets/wounded (75t)
3,300t above water level
     *wards containing beds for 600 patients (2,400t)
     *quarters for 100 medical personnel (200t)
     *3 operating rooms (300t)
     *quarantine wards containing beds for 100 patients (400t)
213t deck level
     *Rehabilition rooms for 50 officers (213t)


3.7 medical personnel per 1 casualty. 

civilian specs
6,900t/4= 1725t total

[Kaiser Kirk]

Overall a very nice unit for a suprisingly reasonable cost

[Darman]

me and my stupid math/logic skills... its actually 1 medic per 3.7 casualties....

[Kaiser Kirk]

me and my stupid math/logic skills... its actually 1 medic per 3.7 casualties....

Luckily I was sufficiently confused to read it that way in the first place.

[Darman]

I think its still a pretty decent hospital ship.  I'd even be willing to export them. 


Edit: At cost.  Because humanitarianism. 

[snip]

I think its still a pretty decent hospital ship.  I'd even be willing to export them. 


Edit: At cost.  Because humanitarianism capitalism and screw the poor.

FIFY

[Darman]

lol so load up fifty of these things with medical marijuana and send them snip's way then invade from Canada.... gotcha :D

[snip]

Would not even need to be medical starting in July