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Started by Darman, December 05, 2014, 07:38:12 PM

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Jefgte

IMO,

2T1x234 & 19kts = poor 1902 AC

=> 2T2x234 & 21kts are better

Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Darman

I used the historic Orlando-class as a template, so 1886 design versus my 1902 design.  I pondered making it larger but I want it to replace Powerful-class LPCs while being half the cost. 

The Rock Doctor

The type strikes me as not being up to a fight with other armored cruisers, but your sense of priorities may differ.

Kaiser Kirk

Compared to historical designs, it's in line. Plus the brits tended to go for fewer heavy guns.
Folks should remember that at this time the ability of the big guns to penetrate and explode was minimal, and they were widely seen as close-in finishers something like torpedoes.  The Oregon's performance and then the Russo-Japanese battles helped change that, as did advances in shell design. The expectation was the QF shell guns would turn the ship into a shell torn wreck, likely on fire, mobility killed by flooding and holes in the stack, smoke and flame making guns unworkable.  Then the big guns would finish off.

So..compared to my Marco Polos, she's more heavily armed. Compared to the Garibaldis, less.  But the Garibaldis are 50% bigger.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

QuoteI used the historic Orlando-class as a template, so 1886 design versus my 1902 design.  I pondered making it larger but I want it to replace Powerful-class LPCs while being half the cost.

Historic Orlando class is not adapted to our sim (obsolet design).

2T2x... & 21kts are used by many fleets in our sim.

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

snip

If you are hurting for BP as much as the armor plate tenders indicate, then this is a squandering of a pressious resource.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Jefgte

QuoteIf you are hurting for BP as much as the armor plate tenders indicate, then this is a squandering of a pressious resource.

No, built stronger & better cruisers could be made on 4,5 or 6 HY.
That's just HY adjustment.

Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Darman

Quote from: snip on December 27, 2014, 04:32:08 PM
If you are hurting for BP as much as the armor plate tenders indicate, then this is a squandering of a pressious resource.
I wasn't really planning on building this specific class, I'm using it as my starting point.  I'm hurting for BP now but once my Formidable-class battleships are finished I'm probably going to be all set.  Relatively speaking of course

Darman

Dauntless, United Kingdom Armored Cruiser laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   9,570 t light; 9,947 t standard; 11,050 t normal; 11,932 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (440.00 ft / 440.00 ft) x 58.00 ft x (24.00 / 25.61 ft)
   (134.11 m / 134.11 m) x 17.68 m  x (7.32 / 7.81 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.20" / 234 mm 40.0 cal guns - 373.15lbs / 169.26kg shells, 70 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1894 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      6 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 6.00lbs / 2.72kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      6 raised mounts
      10 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,559 lbs / 1,161 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   368.00 ft / 112.17 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Ends:   5.00" / 127 mm     56.00 ft / 17.07 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     16.00 ft / 4.88 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   195.00 ft / 59.44 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 129 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      7.00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   7.00" / 178 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 2.00" / 51 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm,  Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 24,508 ihp / 18,283 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,986 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   538 - 700

Cost:
   £1.042 million / $4.168 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 446 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 2,668 tons, 24.1 %
      - Belts: 1,400 tons, 12.7 %
      - Armament: 457 tons, 4.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 683 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 128 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 3,829 tons, 34.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,553 tons, 23.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,480 tons, 13.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 74 tons, 0.7 %
      - Hull below water: 8 tons
      - Hull above water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,519 lbs / 2,957 Kg = 16.7 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.631 / 0.639
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.59 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.98 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.21 ft / 4.03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 127.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 86.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,219 Square feet or 1,785 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 471 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.36
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

8t misc below waterline: 2 submerged 18" torpedo tubes, 1 fore and 1 aft, each with 4 torpedoes. 
16t misc weight on deck: 4 broadside 18" torpedo tubes, 2 port, 2 starboard, each with 4 torpedoes. 
25t above decks for long-range wireless. 
25t above waterline for flag facilities. 

Darman

Enter ship name, Enter country Transport laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   6,900 t light; 7,067 t standard; 8,173 t normal; 9,058 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (454.00 ft / 454.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (24.00 / 26.10 ft)
   (138.38 m / 138.38 m) x 13.72 m  x (7.32 / 7.96 m)

Armament:
      6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 12.50lbs / 5.67kg shells, 100 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 75 lbs / 34 kg

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,039 ihp / 4,505 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 13.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,990 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   429 - 558

Cost:
   £0.378 million / $1.513 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 18 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 944 tons, 11.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,811 tons, 22.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,273 tons, 15.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 4,127 tons, 50.5 %
      - Hull below water: 500 tons
      - Hull above water: 3,300 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 277 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,378 lbs / 1,986 Kg = 324.3 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 0.86
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 18.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.583 / 0.594
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.31 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 30 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.80 ft / 5.12 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,712 Square feet or 1,367 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 66 lbs/sq ft or 320 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.69
      - Overall: 1.00
   Caution: Poor stability - excessive risk of capsizing
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

25t above deck for wireless
25t above deck for boat equipment
77t on deck for 6 9-ton 37-ft steam pinnaces
Troops: 1,000 men at 4,000t
500t below water level
3,300t above water level
200t deck level

civilian specs
6,900t/4= 1725+ 18t (guns)= 1743t total

Darman

37ft pinnace, United Kingdom Steam Pinnace laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   9 t light; 10 t standard; 10 t normal; 10 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (37.00 ft / 37.00 ft) x 5.00 ft x (3.00 / 3.04 ft)
   (11.28 m / 11.28 m) x 1.52 m  x (0.91 / 0.93 m)

Armament:
      1 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 3.00lbs / 1.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1890 Model
     1 x Single mount on sides amidships
     Main guns limited to end-on fire
      Weight of broadside 3 lbs / 1 kg

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 39 ihp / 29 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 50nm at 9.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   2 - 3

Cost:
   £0.001 million / $0.004 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 7.2 %
   Machinery: 4 tons, 40.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 tons, 26.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 tons, 6.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 20.0 %
      - Hull above water: 1 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 1 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 lbs / 1 Kg = 0.8 x 1.9 " / 47 mm shells or 0.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 0.87
   Metacentric height 0.0 ft / 0.0 m
   Roll period: 10.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.631 / 0.632
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.40 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 6.08 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 71 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Average freeboard:      3.08 ft / 0.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 159.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 39.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 137 Square feet or 13 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 62 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 8 lbs/sq ft or 39 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.74
      - Longitudinal: 14.56
      - Overall: 1.00
   Caution: Poor stability - excessive risk of capsizing
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor

1t on deck for 1 torpedo in tube
1t hull above water for 4 additional men. 

Darman

the above was a 37ft steam pinnace in picket-boat mode.  The following design eliminates the weapons and adds extra capacity for troops. 

37ft pinnace -transport role, United Kingdom Steam Pinnace laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   9 t light; 9 t standard; 9 t normal; 9 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (37.00 ft / 37.00 ft) x 5.00 ft x (3.00 / 3.04 ft)
   (11.28 m / 11.28 m) x 1.52 m  x (0.91 / 0.93 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 36 ihp / 27 Kw = 10.00 kts
   Range 50nm at 9.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   2 - 3

Cost:
   £0.001 million / $0.003 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 4 tons, 44.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 tons, 29.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 0 tons, 3.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 tons, 22.2 %
      - Hull above water: 2 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 lbs / 1 Kg = 0.0 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 0.92
   Metacentric height 0.0 ft / 0.0 m
   Roll period: 9.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.568 / 0.569
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.40 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 6.08 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  4.00 ft / 1.22 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m,  3.00 ft / 0.91 m
      - Average freeboard:      3.08 ft / 0.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 167.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 36.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 128 Square feet or 12 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 69 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 7 lbs/sq ft or 35 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.75
      - Longitudinal: 13.92
      - Overall: 1.00
   Caution: Poor stability - excessive risk of capsizing
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

2t hull above water for 8 additional men. 

Darman

Xperimental, United Kingdom Hospital Ship laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   6,900 t light; 7,064 t standard; 8,169 t normal; 9,053 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (454.00 ft / 454.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (24.00 / 26.10 ft)
   (138.38 m / 138.38 m) x 13.72 m  x (7.32 / 7.96 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,037 ihp / 4,504 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 13.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,990 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   429 - 558

Cost:
   £0.374 million / $1.494 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 943 tons, 11.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,817 tons, 22.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,269 tons, 15.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 4,140 tons, 50.7 %
      - Hull below water: 500 tons
      - Hull above water: 3,300 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 290 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,395 lbs / 1,994 Kg = 40.7 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 0.86
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 18.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.583 / 0.594
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.09 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.31 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 30 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.80 ft / 5.12 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,708 Square feet or 1,366 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 319 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.68
      - Overall: 1.00
   Caution: Poor stability - excessive risk of capsizing
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

25t above deck for wireless
25t above deck for boat equipment
77t on deck for 6 9-ton 37-ft steam pinnaces
Medical Equippage
500t below water level
     *quarters for 75 medical personnel (150t)
     *medical stores (175t)
     *morge (100t)
     *additional food-stores for special diets/wounded (75t)
3,300t above water level
     *wards containing beds for 650 patients (2,600t)
     *3 operating rooms (300t)
     *quarantine wards containing beds for 100 patients (400t)
213t deck level
     *Rehabilition rooms for 50 officers (213t)

civilian specs
6,900t/4= 1725t total

Kaiser Kirk

I've noticed for some time that you designate space for short and long range wireless, whereas I expect to refit my ships with same.
Marconi managed a 66nm transmission in 1899, but no actual long range until 1902, and all those were with shore stations.
I wouldn't think the Royal Navy would be planning to incorporate a very very new technology that was still rapidly evolving until it
had a better feels for the space parameters needed, 1902-3ish.  And yes, I realize the latest vessels are lay down 1902, but..
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

snip

Quote from: Kaiser Kirk on January 04, 2015, 03:30:56 PM
I've noticed for some time that you designate space for short and long range wireless, whereas I expect to refit my ships with same.
Marconi managed a 66nm transmission in 1899, but no actual long range until 1902, and all those were with shore stations.
I wouldn't think the Royal Navy would be planning to incorporate a very very new technology that was still rapidly evolving until it
had a better feels for the space parameters needed, 1902-3ish.  And yes, I realize the latest vessels are lay down 1902, but..

We said 1900 was the cutoff date for wireless sets. A rather clean date that does not bend things to far.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon