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Started by Darman, July 16, 2014, 05:06:18 PM

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Darman

East Anglia, United Kingdom Protected Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   5,296 t light; 5,461 t standard; 6,460 t normal; 7,259 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (380.00 ft / 380.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (20.00 / 22.11 ft)
   (115.82 m / 115.82 m) x 13.72 m  x (6.10 / 6.74 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 103.51lbs / 46.95kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 52.35lbs / 23.75kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 5.70lbs / 2.58kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 357 lbs / 162 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.50" / 38 mm   0.50" / 13 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm   0.50" / 13 mm            -
   3rd:   0.75" / 19 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 2.50" / 64 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20,328 ihp / 15,165 Kw = 22.50 kts
   Range 5,200nm at 13.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,798 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   359 - 468

Cost:
   £0.655 million / $2.619 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 77 tons, 1.2 %
   Armour: 601 tons, 9.3 %
      - Armament: 30 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 571 tons, 8.8 %
   Machinery: 3,176 tons, 49.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,401 tons, 21.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,164 tons, 18.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 41 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,869 lbs / 1,301 Kg = 26.6 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.73
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 9.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.661 / 0.672
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.30 ft / 6.49 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.18 ft / 4.32 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 162.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,233 Square feet or 1,229 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 67 lbs/sq ft or 328 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.51
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weight:
6t for 2 deck- mounted single torpedo tubes (one on each side) with 4 reloads total. 
25t for long range wireless
10t for extended endurance

Recommended Names: HMS East Anglia, HMS Cambridgeshire, HMS Norfolk, and HMS Suffolk. 

Darman

The East Anglian-class shall have to wait.  At least until I get my LC/PC architecture technology digested.  In the meantime I'll need another class of light/protected cruisers. 

Darman

Midlands, United Kingdom Protected Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   3,305 t light; 3,398 t standard; 4,000 t normal; 4,482 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (375.00 ft / 375.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (20.00 / 21.61 ft)
   (114.30 m / 114.30 m) x 13.72 m  x (6.10 / 6.59 m)

Armament:
      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 49.75lbs / 22.57kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 6.00lbs / 2.72kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 136 lbs / 61 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm   0.50" / 13 mm            -
   2nd:   0.75" / 19 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck: 1.50" / 38 mm For and Aft decks
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,694 ihp / 8,723 Kw = 21.50 kts
   Range 4,175nm at 13.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,084 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   250 - 326

Cost:
   £0.377 million / $1.508 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 23 tons, 0.6 %
   Armour: 292 tons, 7.3 %
      - Armament: 17 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 275 tons, 6.9 %
   Machinery: 1,823 tons, 45.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,126 tons, 28.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 695 tons, 17.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 41 tons, 1.0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,335 lbs / 1,059 Kg = 45.0 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.67
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 10.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 99 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.97

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.415 / 0.430
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.36 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.30 ft / 6.49 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m,  13.56 ft / 4.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.18 ft / 4.32 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 149.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,483 Square feet or 974 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 63 lbs/sq ft or 305 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.01
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Weight:
6t for 2 deck- mounted single torpedo tubes (one on each side) with 4 reloads total. 
25t for long range wireless
10t for extended endurance

Recommended Names: HMS Midlands, HMS Derbyshire, HMS Gloucestershire, HMS Herefordshire, HMS Leicestershire, HMS Nottinghamshire, HMS Northamptonshire, HMS Oxfordshire, HMS Rutland, HMS Shropshire, HMSStaffordshire, HMS Warwickshire, HMS Worcestershire.   

Jefgte

#3
I refind this fantaisie wrote a few years ago...

I don't Repulse your Valiant designs.
They are Superb, Audacious and a little bit Temeraire.
You use Courageous options to build an Invincible battleship.
Certainly a great Indefatigable Warrior.
She probably fights like a Lion.
For the Triumph and the Glory of the Queen Elisabeth.

:) :)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Walter

... so with that, you're suggesting that Darman should add one BB class to his ideas that consists of 13 ships. :)

Darman

Quote from: Walter on August 15, 2014, 03:50:44 PM
... so with that, you're suggesting that Darman should add one BB class to his ideas that consists of 13 ships. :)
Seems to me like he's tired of my 8-ship classes

Walter

He wants you to build a 13 ship class in the hope that the number 13 will bring bad luck and result in the loss of all 13 ships of the class. ;D

Tanthalas

Personaly im a fan of ship classes built in 3s... so 3, 6, 9 etc.  makes figuring out what is with what easy cause 3 is such a nice number.

Quote from: Walter on August 24, 2014, 10:35:43 AM
He wants you to build a 13 ship class in the hope that the number 13 will bring bad luck and result in the loss of all 13 ships of the class. ;D
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War