Russia 1900 proposed new ships

[Guinness]

The first ship under admiralty consideration is an evolution of the 2nd Rank cruisers of the Bayan class. A new hull form makes way for a 3rd 8" gun, and 6x6" guns in individual turrets, as well as more speed:

1900 Second Rank, Russia Second Rank Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   6,500 t light; 6,796 t standard; 7,436 t normal; 7,948 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (411.75 ft / 405.18 ft) x 50.20 ft x (22.85 / 24.10 ft)
   (125.50 m / 123.50 m) x 15.30 m  x (6.97 / 7.35 m)

Armament:
      3 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 193.57lbs / 87.80kg shells, 170 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1892 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck centre
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck centre
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 240 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1892 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 5.05lbs / 2.29kg shells, 600 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1883 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1880 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,189 lbs / 539 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   351.05 ft / 107.00 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 133 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 16,700 ihp / 12,458 Kw = 21.24 kts
   Range 5,480nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,152 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   399 - 520

Cost:
   £0.730 million / $2.920 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 393 tons, 5.3 %
      - Guns: 393 tons, 5.3 %
   Armour: 1,605 tons, 21.6 %
      - Belts: 543 tons, 7.3 %
      - Armament: 487 tons, 6.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 526 tons, 7.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 48 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 2,609 tons, 35.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,748 tons, 23.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 936 tons, 12.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 145 tons, 1.9 %
      - Hull below water: 54 tons
      - Hull above water: 46 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,719 lbs / 1,687 Kg = 14.5 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 14.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.567
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.07 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.92 ft / -1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   14.25 %,  19.03 ft / 5.80 m,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m
      - Forward deck:   16.50 %,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Aft deck:   54.25 %,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.70 ft / 3.87 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 132.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 82.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,328 Square feet or 1,331 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 86 lbs/sq ft or 418 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.47
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc weights:
Below water: 5t Torpedos, 20t the Ram, 9t Vodka, 20t Reserve
Above water: 30t Mines, 16t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Reserve
Above deck: 20t Reserve

[Guinness]

Or, a 1st Rank Cruiser, something like this:

1900 First Rank, Russia First Rank Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   9,900 t light; 10,364 t standard; 11,267 t normal; 11,990 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (462.60 ft / 456.04 ft) x 59.88 ft x (25.74 / 27.06 ft)
   (141.00 m / 139.00 m) x 18.25 m  x (7.85 / 8.25 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 193.57lbs / 87.80kg shells, 170 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1892 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 240 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1892 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 5.05lbs / 2.29kg shells, 600 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1883 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1880 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,932 lbs / 876 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   383.86 ft / 117.00 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 129 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24,500 ihp / 18,277 Kw = 22.14 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,626 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   546 - 710

Cost:
   £1.106 million / $4.423 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 616 tons, 5.5 %
      - Guns: 616 tons, 5.5 %
   Armour: 2,619 tons, 23.2 %
      - Belts: 900 tons, 8.0 %
      - Armament: 927 tons, 8.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 707 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 85 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 3,828 tons, 34.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,672 tons, 23.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,367 tons, 12.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 165 tons, 1.5 %
      - Hull below water: 54 tons
      - Hull above water: 66 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,884 lbs / 2,669 Kg = 23.0 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.19

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.561 / 0.568
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.62 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.36 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.92 ft / -1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   14.00 %,  20.67 ft / 6.30 m,  20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Forward deck:   16.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  12.14 ft / 3.70 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.28 ft / 4.35 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,254 Square feet or 1,789 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 100 lbs/sq ft or 489 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.38
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room

Misc weights:
Below water: 5t Torpedos, 20t the Ram, 9t Vodka, 20t Reserve
Above water: 50t Mines, 16t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Reserve
Above deck: 20t Reserve

[Jefgte]

For the 9900t cruiser:
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces


Jef  ;)

[The Rock Doctor]

For the 9900t cruiser:
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces


Jef  ;)

Shhhh...

[Guinness]

Yeah I fixed that already.

The question is: one big one, or two small ones?

[Jefgte]

IMO,
Update the 6500t to 6600t
2T2x203 - 21.2kts
120m if possible

Jef

[The Rock Doctor]

Yeah I fixed that already.

The question is: one big one, or two small ones?

What role(s) do you foresee for it/them?

[Guinness]

Independent ops, scouting for the battle line. Maybe even having to break out from the Baltic and/or making a long distance transit toward the Pacific.

[Guinness]

IMO,
Update the 6500t to 6600t
2T2x203 - 21.2kts
120m if possible

Jef

I'm not sure if the Russians really like twin turrets on ACs yet. So far they like the 3 single turrets toward the bow.

Edit: oh wait, the smaller one. Let me see here....

[Guinness]

Hmmm:

1900 Second Rank 2x2x8", Russia Second Rank Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   6,800 t light; 7,120 t standard; 7,823 t normal; 8,385 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.70 ft / 387.14 ft) x 51.51 ft x (24.43 / 25.82 ft)
   (120.00 m / 118.00 m) x 15.70 m  x (7.45 / 7.87 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 193.57lbs / 87.80kg shells, 170 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1892 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 91.49lbs / 41.50kg shells, 240 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1892 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      9 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 5.05lbs / 2.29kg shells, 600 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1883 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
     1 x Single mount on sides, aft deck aft
      1 hull mount in casemate- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 30.0 cal guns - 1.11lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1880 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,378 lbs / 625 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   346.13 ft / 105.50 m   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 138 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   2.76" / 70 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18,000 ihp / 13,428 Kw = 21.34 kts
   Range 5,900nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,265 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   415 - 540

Cost:
   £0.793 million / $3.172 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 428 tons, 5.5 %
      - Guns: 428 tons, 5.5 %
   Armour: 1,570 tons, 20.1 %
      - Belts: 534 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armament: 469 tons, 6.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 517 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 2,812 tons, 36.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,844 tons, 23.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,023 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 145 tons, 1.9 %
      - Hull below water: 54 tons
      - Hull above water: 46 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,715 lbs / 1,685 Kg = 14.5 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 14.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.562 / 0.570
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.52 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.92 ft / -1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   14.00 %,  20.34 ft / 6.20 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Forward deck:   16.00 %,  19.36 ft / 5.90 m,  19.36 ft / 5.90 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.48 ft / 3.50 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.95 ft / 4.25 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 137.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 85.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,076 Square feet or 1,308 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 89 lbs/sq ft or 436 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.81
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc weights:
Below water: 5t Torpedos, 20t the Ram, 9t Vodka, 20t Reserve
Above water: 30t Mines, 16t Reserve
On Deck: 25t Reserve
Above deck: 20t Reserve

[Jefgte]

Decrease draught by 0.8m & increase beam to have better survivability.
You could increase BC too.

Jef

[Guinness]

Under consideration: a dedicated minelayer:

1900 Minelayer, Russia Third Rate Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   2,500 t light; 2,573 t standard; 2,767 t normal; 2,922 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (288.71 ft / 272.31 ft) x 40.19 ft x (16.39 / 17.11 ft)
   (88.00 m / 83.00 m) x 12.25 m  x (5.00 / 5.21 m)

Armament:
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 10.80lbs / 4.90kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 3.31lbs / 1.50kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1885 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 113 lbs / 51 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   2nd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7,500 ihp / 5,595 Kw = 19.43 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 350 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   189 - 247

Cost:
   £0.251 million / $1.005 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 28 tons, 1.0 %
      - Guns: 28 tons, 1.0 %
   Armour: 286 tons, 10.3 %
      - Armament: 286 tons, 10.3 %
   Machinery: 1,117 tons, 40.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 687 tons, 24.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 267 tons, 9.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 382 tons, 13.8 %
      - Hull below water: 30 tons
      - Hull above water: 330 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 17 tons
      - Above deck: 5 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,198 lbs / 543 Kg = 11.1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 13.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.07
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.18

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck ,
     a ram bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.540 / 0.546
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.78 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.50 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   13.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Aft deck:   47.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.15 ft / 3.70 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 147.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 74.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 7,567 Square feet or 703 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 57 lbs/sq ft or 279 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.93
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Misc weights:
Below water: 20t Reserve, 10t The Ram
Above water: 330t Mines
On Deck: 17t Reserve
Above deck: 5t Reserve

[The Rock Doctor]

Not a bad idea, but I get the sense fewer, larger guns might be easier on deck space. Given that you've got to find room for 300+ mines, that might be an issue.

[Guinness]

Based on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur-class_minelayer_%281898%29

300 mines, if they take up a meter square on deck, can fit in a box 50 meters long by 6 meters wide. Unfortunately it doesn't list just which mines it carried.

I suspect it carried them on two decks, based solely on the hatches aft in the photo linked from the article above, in which case I probably need to list some as "on deck" misc. weight (amidships between the forecastle and the poop) and some below decks.

[Guinness]

1900 program 3rd Rank cruiser, which is an evolution of the classes that came before. 3 to be laid down, including 1 in the Black Sea. The 1900 program is the first time common designs are to be built in both the Baltic and Black sea:

Posadnik, Russia Third Rate Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   3,000 t light; 3,127 t standard; 3,479 t normal; 3,761 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (329.72 ft / 321.52 ft) x 40.03 ft x (17.59 / 18.70 ft)
   (100.50 m / 98.00 m) x 12.20 m  x (5.36 / 5.70 m)

Armament:
      8 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 45.13lbs / 20.47kg shells, 240 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1892 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 5.05lbs / 2.29kg shells, 420 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1883 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea
      Weight of broadside 401 lbs / 182 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.98" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.72" / 120 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,250 ihp / 7,647 Kw = 20.73 kts
   Range 4,820nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 634 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   226 - 294

Cost:
   £0.343 million / $1.373 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 82 tons, 2.4 %
      - Guns: 82 tons, 2.4 %
   Armour: 460 tons, 13.2 %
      - Armament: 274 tons, 7.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 163 tons, 4.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 23 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 1,543 tons, 44.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 855 tons, 24.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 479 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 1.7 %
      - Hull below water: 30 tons
      - Hull above water: 15 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons
      - Above deck: 5 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,462 lbs / 663 Kg = 13.5 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck ,
     a ram bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.538 / 0.547
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.03 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.93 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -8.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   12.00 %,  16.73 ft / 5.10 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   17.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Aft deck:   52.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.78 ft / 3.59 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 152.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 73.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,881 Square feet or 825 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 62 lbs/sq ft or 302 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.58
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc weights:
Below water: 25t Reserve, 5t The Ram
Above water: 5t Torpedos
On Deck: 10t Reserve
Above deck: 5t Reserve