New Ottoman Ships, 1900 and onward

[The Rock Doctor]

I could also do this.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1900

Displacement:
   10,862 t light; 11,304 t standard; 12,078 t normal; 12,697 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (492.13 ft / 492.13 ft) x 68.90 ft x (24.93 / 25.89 ft)
   (150.00 m / 150.00 m) x 21.00 m  x (7.60 / 7.89 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 641.94lbs / 291.18kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 98.70lbs / 44.77kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      12 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 19.93lbs / 9.04kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 3,597 lbs / 1,631 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.09" / 180 mm   344.49 ft / 105.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   147.61 ft / 44.99 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   246.06 ft / 75.00 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.84" / 250 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -         2.95" / 75 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20,000 ihp / 14,920 Kw = 20.97 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,393 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   575 - 748

Cost:
   £1.070 million / $4.281 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 559 tons, 4.6 %
      - Guns: 559 tons, 4.6 %
   Armour: 3,192 tons, 26.4 %
      - Belts: 1,688 tons, 14.0 %
      - Armament: 526 tons, 4.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 800 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Towers: 179 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 3,094 tons, 25.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,654 tons, 30.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,215 tons, 10.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 364 tons, 3.0 %
      - Hull above water: 364 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,054 lbs / 5,014 Kg = 16.5 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.57

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.506
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.14 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.34 ft / 6.20 m,  20.34 ft / 6.20 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  20.34 ft / 6.20 m,  20.34 ft / 6.20 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.62 ft / 4.76 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,591 Square feet or 2,099 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 564 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Kaiser Kirk]

It's more classical one-ups manship :)
Though I don't think it counts as an Armored Cruiser anymore :)
The first was fine, and comps well to most ACs out there, it's just the Garibaldis were also meet to meet or exceed :)

[Walter]

Though I don't think it counts as an Armored Cruiser anymore

That design is a cruiser design just like the OTL Tsukuba and Ibuki class, which were 1st Class Cruisers (reclassified as Battlecruisers on August 28, 1912). Just depends on how you look at it though the proper way might be to look at it as a cruiser. :)

[Tanthalas]

Not a bad ship, but IDK i fit is worth it for the extra one knot... I am using AQY 11" on about the same tonage but I have 10" belt and only hit 20 knots...

[The Rock Doctor]

Speed's expensive in the VTE era, no question.

The Ottoman debate over such hardware reflects my own indecision about construction.  I'm loath to pass up on the BP production in 1903/4, yet not certain how to spend it productively...

[Tanthalas]

Belive me I understand compleatly... the Dutch Navy wants more Battlecruisers, but with emerging technology we are not sure it is worth building them at this point... any new class I layed down would be esentialy a direct repeat of the class I am about to compleate, with it being atleast another year before I can lay down a truely improved version... I think I am more likley to just build CLs instead of trying to build more BCs till 1903 or so.

Speed's expensive in the VTE era, no question.

The Ottoman debate over such hardware reflects my own indecision about construction.  I'm loath to pass up on the BP production in 1903/4, yet not certain how to spend it productively...

[The Rock Doctor]

I suppose I could beef up my shore batteries...

[Kaiser Kirk]

Not a bad ship, but IDK i fit is worth it for the extra one knot... I am using AQY 11" on about the same tonage but I have 10" belt and only hit 20 knots...

While it's 800 tons lighter and 2.5knots faster than my 1896 St. Bon battleships... with slightly larger guns.
On the other hand, her 180mm belt vs. the St. Bon's 255mm belt means the St. Bon will land fatal blows sooner
and the 16x 194mm secondary will outgun the 8x150mm

[The Rock Doctor]

Right, but I'm looking at this as a cruiser, not a battleship.

[Tanthalas]

Wouldnt somthing like this be better for you Rock? I realise the guns arn't exact but for only a couple hundred tons more you get better overall protection and still hit the 21 knot threshold.  Realisticly it is just a rework of my Admiral class but it has a whole diferent flavor from them.

Sultan Class, Ottoman Empire Armoured Cruiser (1st Class)  laid down 1900

Displacement:
   11,000 t light; 11,537 t standard; 13,081 t normal; 14,315 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (468.00 ft / 464.00 ft) x 64.00 ft x (27.00 / 29.04 ft)
   (142.65 m / 141.43 m) x 19.51 m  x (8.23 / 8.85 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.00lbs / 239.95kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      7 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 39.99lbs / 18.14kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 39.99lbs / 18.14kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,156 lbs / 1,885 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   322.00 ft / 98.15 m   13.50 ft / 4.11 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   142.00 ft / 43.28 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      7.00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.25" / 32 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 21,906 ihp / 16,342 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,778 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   611 - 795

Cost:
   £1.168 million / $4.673 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 726 tons, 5.6 %
      - Guns: 726 tons, 5.6 %
   Armour: 3,591 tons, 27.5 %
      - Belts: 2,196 tons, 16.8 %
      - Armament: 560 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 715 tons, 5.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 120 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 3,389 tons, 25.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,234 tons, 24.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,081 tons, 15.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 0.5 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Hull above water: 20 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 24 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,425 lbs / 5,182 Kg = 17.2 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
   Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 12.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.54

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.571 / 0.581
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 9.78 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.20 ft / 7.07 m,  18.80 ft / 5.73 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  18.80 ft / 5.73 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.18 ft / 4.93 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 21,137 Square feet or 1,964 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 528 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.80
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

60 tons Misc. weight total
Hull below water: 16 tons
4 tons sides:18" torpedo tubes (one at either end of the Citidel per side)
12 tons: 3 reloads per tube
Hull above water: 20 tons
10 tons: Flag facilities
10 tons: Reserve
On Main deck: 35 tons
10 tons: Flag facilities
14 tons: reserve

[Kaiser Kirk]

Right, but I'm looking at this as a cruiser, not a battleship.

Yep, and for that the first one was reasonable, I just wanted you to be aware that it was merely competitive, not dominant. It matches up quite well against my older 1895 Vettar Pisani class.
Tan's last is fun, just a Swiftsure style battlecruiser. Beam is that of the Iki -2,  draft is deep, Don't quite get the weaponry layout. Me, the heavy secondaries keep forcing my warship weights up :)While it may have a chance against some weaker battleships, I find the armor a bit light (true many brits had 9").

However we're seeing a continium. The Garibaldi are 33% more pricy than the Pisani but would dominate them, while Tan's ship is 26% more expensive than a Garibaldi but does exactly the same role. 

So if I was to advocate for something the Ottomans should build...I'd say stick to your AQX chops, invest in slightly heavier armor and more secondary, and evaluate if in the Black Sea and Med you really need Excellent seakeeping, or if that's an expensive luxury and you can free up space with a lower freeboard or shorter vessel.


...or evaluate Tan's vessel against Russian ones. I'm just focusing on my ships, shame on me.

[Tanthalas]

Kirk the gun layout looks wierd cause I messed them up LOL (should only be 6 below freeboard not 7 and 8 above).  My original idea was somthing like Swiftsure with the 7.5" guns replaced with 6", but using a layout on them more like what you see in the brit ACs (stacked secondary guns ya know).  Honestly if someone is trying to build a true AC instead of a predread BC they would be better off building somthing like the OTL Monmouth Class, ya know somthing more like this

Cheap Ottoman Knockoff, Ottoman Empire Armoured Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   9,600 t light; 10,065 t standard; 10,920 t normal; 11,604 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (464.00 ft / 464.00 ft) x 66.00 ft x (25.00 / 26.17 ft)
   (141.43 m / 141.43 m) x 20.12 m  x (7.62 / 7.98 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.00lbs / 239.95kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      12 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 40.00lbs / 18.14kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 3,796 lbs / 1,722 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   393.00 ft / 119.79 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm     71.00 ft / 21.64 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   2.00" / 51 mm   363.00 ft / 110.64 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 130 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 0.75" / 19 mm  Quarter deck: 0.75" / 19 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 23,003 ihp / 17,160 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,540 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   533 - 694

Cost:
   £1.127 million / $4.506 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 763 tons, 7.0 %
      - Guns: 763 tons, 7.0 %
   Armour: 2,176 tons, 19.9 %
      - Belts: 955 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armament: 452 tons, 4.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 705 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 64 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 3,559 tons, 32.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,103 tons, 28.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,320 tons, 12.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,111 lbs / 3,225 Kg = 10.7 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 12.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.62

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.499 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.03 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   13.00 %,  25.00 ft / 7.62 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   12.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.74 ft / 5.10 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,389 Square feet or 1,894 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 542 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.96
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Tanthalas]

or like this if you slow it down to 21 knots

Cheap Ottoman Knockoff, Ottoman Empire Armoured Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   9,600 t light; 10,065 t standard; 10,920 t normal; 11,604 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (464.00 ft / 464.00 ft) x 66.00 ft x (25.00 / 26.17 ft)
   (141.43 m / 141.43 m) x 20.12 m  x (7.62 / 7.98 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.00lbs / 239.95kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      12 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 40.00lbs / 18.14kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 3,796 lbs / 1,722 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   348.00 ft / 106.07 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   116.00 ft / 35.36 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   348.00 ft / 106.07 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 0.75" / 19 mm  Quarter deck: 0.75" / 19 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.00" / 178 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19,237 ihp / 14,351 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,540 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   533 - 694

Cost:
   £1.045 million / $4.180 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 763 tons, 7.0 %
      - Guns: 763 tons, 7.0 %
   Armour: 2,764 tons, 25.3 %
      - Belts: 1,527 tons, 14.0 %
      - Armament: 458 tons, 4.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 705 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 74 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 2,976 tons, 27.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,097 tons, 28.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,320 tons, 12.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,194 lbs / 4,170 Kg = 13.8 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 12.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.75

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.499 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.03 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.54 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   13.00 %,  25.00 ft / 7.62 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   12.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.74 ft / 5.10 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 113.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,389 Square feet or 1,894 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 541 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.94
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Kaiser Kirk]

This is Rocky's ship design forum, not a general one, so I don't want to threadjack it with long discussions or designs.  From your design push you're going a different direction than I.
For example : my parameters for assessment are as follows
The points I made in my Italian ships thread about large bore naval guns basically just punching holes at this timeframe - letting in water, not wrecking explosive havoc - stands. So, I'm not going to be the fan of 11" for ACs as you are. That will change with time and fire control.

From the Italian Navy, Italian Weapons, bottom chart, you can see the rough parameters the Italians are expecting. The 240mm gun will punch through 180mm armor at all combat ranges. Granted, a protective deck- providing the vitals fit in the critical spaces- will add a bit to the effective belt, but it's pretty effective <5000m ...just like historical ACs were expected to finish off crippled BBs.

Your BC will have throw weight, but slightly less ROF. The 6" could make a mess, but if the Italians are right, it won't penetrate the 120mm upper belt or 180mm lower belt at combat ranges. So the ROF of the 120mm may matter in terms of HE coverage and soft kill.
Therefore, to my mind you're paying substantially more for a bigger ship, that will be at a slight advantage, but not decisive. Something that could have been obtained at less cost with minor improvements to the original. I'm guessing you value these things differently and so disagree :)

As for Rocky's concern of wasting BP...as someone who gets to spend ~4BP / turn, I get it.  But I'd rather live in the moment and get to explore ideas of that time. I wanted to start *earlier* so we could do that. However, look at what the British did - they had 1st line units they put up against Germany, and then rounded out elsewhere with the older ones. The big big ship killer will not be speed - because we've all got the same combat range of <10,000m.... but fire control allowing the ship with speed to destroy the ship without from ranges beyond what they can reply too.
And there I am planning ahead with large reserve tonnages that can accomodate future guns & FC...but which are also a simple legacy of Wesworld where I always found myself wanting extra comp hull in refits, and so I consider it a wise naval practice to build with a little excess. So build your AC, your way, to the philosophy you want to explore, and just plan a little fat so you can keep it valid in the future.

[The Rock Doctor]

I'm totally on board with you regarding miscellaneous weight.  It's something I've learned the hard way in previous sims.