Germany Pre-1900

[miketr]

One of the reasons I hate SS3 is if something is missing the program doesn't tell you what it is.  My Com Strength is NaN; some data is missing BUT what that is I have no idea.  Can someone help me?

PDN 1898, Germany PDN laid down 1898

Displacement:
   11,871 t light; 12,436 t standard; 13,293 t normal; 13,979 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (429.79 ft / 429.79 ft) x 75.46 ft x (26.08 / 27.14 ft)
   (131.00 m / 131.00 m) x 23.00 m  x (7.95 / 8.27 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.11lbs / 240.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     3 x Single mounts layout not set
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     12 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      16 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,480 lbs / 2,032 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.540 t each, 2.159 t total
   submerged side tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      1 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedo - 0.540 t total
   submerged bow tube

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   236.38 ft / 72.05 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   193.37 ft / 58.94 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   236.38 ft / 72.05 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.18" / 30 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.36" / 60 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 2.36" / 60 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13,405 ihp / 10,000 Kw = 18.24 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,543 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   618 - 804

Cost:
   £1.137 million / $4.548 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 981 tons, 7.4 %
      - Guns: 975 tons, 7.3 %
      - Weapons: 5 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 3,588 tons, 27.0 %
      - Belts: 2,211 tons, 16.6 %
      - Armament: 281 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 952 tons, 7.2 %
      - Conning Towers: 143 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 2,415 tons, 18.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,887 tons, 36.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,422 tons, 10.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     0 lbs / 0 Kg = 0.0 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): NaN
   Metacentric height NaN ft / NaN m
   Roll period: NaN seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): NaN %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): NaN
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): NaN

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.73 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.06 ft / 5.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,634 Square feet or 2,103 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 163 lbs/sq ft or 797 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: NaN
      - Longitudinal: NaN
      - Overall: NaN
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

[Walter]

I am pretty sure that this is problem...

6 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.11lbs / 240.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     3 x Single mounts layout not set

If you do not set the layout for any of the guns, you'll end up with that. I think you also want twins for 6 guns.

Also...

Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

[Walter]

Should be like this...

PDN 1898, Germany PDN laid down 1898

Displacement:
   11,871 t light; 12,436 t standard; 13,293 t normal; 13,979 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (429.79 ft / 429.79 ft) x 75.46 ft x (26.08 / 27.14 ft)
   (131.00 m / 131.00 m) x 23.00 m  x (7.95 / 8.27 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.11lbs / 240.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1898 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1898 Model
     12 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      16 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,480 lbs / 2,032 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.540 t each, 2.159 t total
   submerged side tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      1 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedo - 0.540 t total
   submerged bow tube

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   249.51 ft / 76.05 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   180.25 ft / 54.94 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   249.51 ft / 76.05 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 89% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.18" / 30 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.36" / 60 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 2.36" / 60 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13,405 ihp / 10,000 Kw = 18.24 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,543 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   618 - 804

Cost:
   £1.137 million / $4.548 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 837 tons, 6.3%
      - Guns: 831 tons, 6.3%
      - Weapons: 5 tons, 0.0%
   Armour: 4,381 tons, 33.0%
      - Belts: 2,268 tons, 17.1%
      - Armament: 1,017 tons, 7.7%
      - Armour Deck: 952 tons, 7.2%
      - Conning Towers: 143 tons, 1.1%
   Machinery: 2,415 tons, 18.2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,900 tons, 29.3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,422 tons, 10.7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 338 tons, 2.5%
      - Hull above water: 338 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15,524 lbs / 7,041 Kg = 23.2 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 14.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.81

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.73 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00%,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00%,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00%,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00%,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.06 ft / 5.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.2%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121.5%
   Waterplane Area: 22,634 Square feet or 2,103 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 630 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.17
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[miketr]

Perfect, thank you!

Michael

[miketr]

This is first draft.  Any comments on what people think? 

PDN 1900, Germany PDN laid down 1900

Displacement:
   14,047 t light; 14,782 t standard; 15,709 t normal; 16,451 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (446.19 ft / 446.19 ft) x 78.25 ft x (26.25 / 27.26 ft)
   (136.00 m / 136.00 m) x 23.85 m  x (8.00 / 8.31 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 641.94lbs / 291.18kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 308.65lbs / 140.00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      12 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6,280 lbs / 2,849 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.540 t each, 2.159 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   262.47 ft / 80.00 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   183.73 ft / 56.00 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   262.47 ft / 80.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 90 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   9.84" / 250 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   3rd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -         1.97" / 50 mm
   4th:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.36" / 60 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 2.36" / 60 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 14,984 ihp / 11,178 Kw = 18.25 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,669 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   701 - 912

Cost:
   £1.405 million / $5.621 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,277 tons, 8.1 %
      - Guns: 1,273 tons, 8.1 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 5,143 tons, 32.7 %
      - Belts: 2,381 tons, 15.2 %
      - Armament: 1,528 tons, 9.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,074 tons, 6.8 %
      - Conning Towers: 160 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,652 tons, 16.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,636 tons, 29.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,663 tons, 10.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 338 tons, 2.2 %
      - Hull above water: 338 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,595 lbs / 7,981 Kg = 26.3 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 5.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 14.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 85 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.70

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.605
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.12 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.06 ft / 5.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 120.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 25,535 Square feet or 2,372 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 705 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 2.09
      - Overall: 1.02
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Walter]

I've run into that problem a number of times in the past so I knew what to look for. As soon as I saw the 'NaN', the first things I checked were the mount layout settings for all the guns.

[snip]

Make sure you account for torps in Misc weight, not in the menus. Those tend to get messed up badly and bug out the program.

As far as the design itself goes, why both 280mm and 240mm weapons? The RoF on the historical guns (via NavWeaps) is so close I don't see an advantage. I would think that a 280mm with 210mm (my recomendation due to the 150mm mountings) or 175mm guns would be more balanced if MMB is the aim. That would allow the ship to be smaller

[miketr]

Navweaps
http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_11-40_skc04.htm
about 2 rounds per minute
http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_945-40_skc94.htm
C/98 Turrets:  about 3 - 4 rounds per minute
http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_827-40_skc95.htm
4 - 5 rounds per minute

There is a good rate of fire pick up on the lighter guns.

Michael

[snip]

*derps out and looks at old C/92 turret*

[miketr]

If you look at the 1891 240mm gun then you want to do the same for the 280mm.

http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_11-40_skc90.htm

Michael

[miketr]

Thanks to Rock Doctor.

AC1895, Germany AC laid down 1895 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   8,259 t light; 8,577 t standard; 9,304 t normal; 9,886 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (387.14 ft / 387.14 ft) x 65.94 ft x (23.62 / 24.78 ft)
   (118.00 m / 118.00 m) x 20.10 m  x (7.20 / 7.55 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.27" / 210 mm 40.0 cal guns - 238.10lbs / 108.00kg shells, 85 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      10 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 15,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,989 lbs / 902 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.487 t each, 0.973 t total
   submerged side tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.487 t each, 0.973 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   318.24 ft / 97.00 m   9.71 ft / 2.96 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm     68.86 ft / 20.99 m   9.71 ft / 2.96 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   131.23 ft / 40.00 m   16.01 ft / 4.88 m
     Main Belt covers 126 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm   1.18" / 30 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   2.76" / 70 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.91" / 150 mm, Aft 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 16,086 ihp / 12,000 Kw = 20.09 kts
   Range 4,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,309 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   473 - 615

Cost:
   £0.883 million / $3.534 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 431 tons, 4.6 %
      - Guns: 427 tons, 4.6 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 1,999 tons, 21.5 %
      - Belts: 992 tons, 10.7 %
      - Armament: 352 tons, 3.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 588 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Towers: 68 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,123 tons, 33.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,616 tons, 28.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,045 tons, 11.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 90 tons, 1.0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 90 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,044 lbs / 3,195 Kg = 24.9 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 3.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.47
   Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 12.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.73

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.540 / 0.547
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.85 ft / 5.44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 125.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 127.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 17,651 Square feet or 1,640 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 514 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.90
      - Longitudinal: 2.53
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[miketr]

More thanks to Rock Doctor.

PC1895, Germany Small Cruiser laid down 1895 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   2,739 t light; 2,834 t standard; 3,168 t normal; 3,435 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (347.77 ft / 344.49 ft) x 42.65 ft x (15.09 / 16.05 ft)
   (106.00 m / 105.00 m) x 13.00 m  x (4.60 / 4.89 m)

Armament:
      8 - 4.13" / 105 mm 40.0 cal guns - 33.85lbs / 15.35kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 35.0 cal guns - 1.45lbs / 0.66kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 277 lbs / 125 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.487 t each, 0.973 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm            -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.98" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.94" / 100 mm, Aft 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,702 ihp / 5,000 Kw = 19.04 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 600 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   210 - 274

Cost:
   £0.290 million / $1.160 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 40 tons, 1.3 %
      - Guns: 39 tons, 1.2 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 274 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armament: 58 tons, 1.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 180 tons, 5.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 37 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 1,301 tons, 41.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,034 tons, 32.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 429 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 89 tons, 2.8 %
      - Hull above water: 16 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 73 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,444 lbs / 1,108 Kg = 69.2 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.49
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.510
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.08 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 40
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 137.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 9,789 Square feet or 909 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 61 lbs/sq ft or 297 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.88
      - Longitudinal: 2.63
      - Overall: 0.98
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[miketr]

Another ship thanks to Rock Doctor.

Michael

TB1896, Germany TB laid down 1896 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   400 t light; 412 t standard; 469 t normal; 514 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (208.99 ft / 205.71 ft) x 21.33 ft x (9.35 / 9.94 ft)
   (63.70 m / 62.70 m) x 6.50 m  x (2.85 / 3.03 m)

Armament:
      3 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 3.66lbs / 1.66kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 15,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      Weight of broadside 11 lbs / 5 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      3 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m torpedoes - 0.000 t each, 0.000 t total
   In 1 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,702 ihp / 5,000 Kw = 24.64 kts
   Range 2,100nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 102 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   49 - 65

Cost:
   £0.055 million / $0.218 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 tons, 0.5 %
      - Guns: 2 tons, 0.5 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 285 tons, 60.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 90 tons, 19.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 69 tons, 14.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 4.3 %
      - On freeboard deck: 20 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     87 lbs / 39 Kg = 22.7 x 2.0 " / 50 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.57
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 8.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.96

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.34 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m,  7.87 ft / 2.40 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.35 ft / 2.54 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 198.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,700 Square feet or 251 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 18 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 85 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.45
      - Longitudinal: 1.36
      - Overall: 0.50
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Trial Speed: 28 Knots
Bonus Speed: 3.36

[Walter]

In the ency, you posted the PDN 1898 which is the version which did not have the main gun layout set and thus resulted in the hull strengths being 'NaN'. I would also make its main belt a bit longer to remove the 'Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces' warning.

TB1896 in the ency has a x-sectional hull strength of 0.49. The above version has it as low as 0.45 while the PC1895 design above has an overall hull strength below 1.00. Considering that those designs are 'thanks to Rock Doctor', I guess that the Ottomans see Germany as the main threat and they are secretly trying to sabotage the German Navy. ;D

[snip]

Considering that those designs are 'thanks to Rock Doctor', I guess that the Ottomans see Germany as the main threat and they are secretly trying to sabotage the German Navy. ;D