China Set-Up

[Walter]

Guess I will need to throw something out as well to be scrutinized. :)

Economics and Regional map (so you know where things are)


Region ---------- Pop ---- IC --- BP --- Revenue -- Research --
Wei ------------ 129.4 ---- 4 ---- 2 ----- 20.94 ------ 0.00 --
--- Beijing ------ 3.7 ---- 3 ---- 0 ------ 6.37 ------ 0.00 --
--- Tianjin ------ 2.8 ---- 3 ---- 2 ------ 6.08 ------ 0.20 --
Wu ------------- 108.2 ---- 3 ---- 2 ----- 16.82 ------ 0.00 --
--- Guangzhou ---- 0.9 ---- 1 ---- 1 ------ 1.99 ------ 0.10 --
--- Hong Kong ---- 2.1 ---- 3 ---- 0 ------ 5.31 ------ 0.90 --
--- Shanghai ----- 4.8 ---- 5 ---- 2 ----- 10.28 ------ 0.20 --
Shu ------------- 87.8 ---- 3 ---- 3 ----- 14.78 ------ 0.00 --
Manchuria -------- 9.4 ---- 1 ---- 0 ------ 2.94 ------ 0.00 --
Mongolia --------- 1.8 ---- 0 ---- 0 ------ 0.18 ------ 0.00 --
Uyghur ----------- 3.3 ---- 0 ---- 0 ------ 0.33 ------ 0.00 --
Tibet ----------- 49.3 ---- 0 ---- 0 ------ 4.93 ------ 0.00 --
---------------------------------------------------------------
Total ---------- 403.5 --- 26 --- 12 ----- 90.95 ------ 1.40 --

[Walter]

Ship sims here: http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,6429.0.html

Class ----- displ --- ships---- total displ. -
Shanxi ---- 12000 ----- 1 -------- 12000 -----
Wutong ----- 4200 ----- 2 --------- 8400 -----
Jiuhua ----- 6000 ----- 1 --------- 6000 -----
Beiwudang -- 7250 ----- 1 --------- 7250 -----
Fuding ----- 2800 ----- 6 -------- 16800 -----
Baiyin ----- 3500 ----- 4 -------- 14000 -----
Lechang ---- 5800 ----- 2 -------- 11600 -----
D-1 --------- 346 ---- 15 --------- 5190 -----
D-16 -------- 346 ----- 6 --------- 2076 -----
T-1 ---------- 76 ---- 15 --------- 1140 -----
T-16 --------- 91 ---- 15 --------- 1365 -----
T-31 --------- 75 ---- 11 ---------- 825 -----
T-42 -------- 136 ----- 4 ---------- 544 -----
T-46 -------- 107 ----- 6 ---------- 642 -----
T-52 --------- 45 ----- 8 ---------- 360 -----
G-1 --------- 548 ----- 6 --------- 3288 -----
G-7 --------- 902 ----- 2 --------- 1804 -----
R-1 --------- 117 ---- 16 --------- 1872 -----
R-17 --------- 90 ---- 30 --------- 2700 -----
M-1 -------- 2852 ----- 2 --------- 5704 -----
RP-1 --------- 18 ---- 80 --------- 1440 -----
----------------------------------------------
Total --------------- 233 ------- 105000 -----

[Walter]

Shanghai Type 2 Port (3 BP)
--- Type 1+ Dock (1 BP)
--- Type 1+ Dock (1 BP)
--- Type 1+ Dock (1 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Fuzhou Type 1 Port (2 BP)
--- Type 1+ Dock (1 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Hong Kong Type 1 Port (2 BP)
--- Type 1+ Dock (1 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Weihai Type 0 Port (0.5 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Guangzhou Type 0 Port (0.5 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Tianjin Type 0 Port (0.5 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Nanjing Type 0 Port (0.5 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Macau Type 0 Port (0.5 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock
Takao Type 0 Port (0.5 BP)
--- Type 0+ Dock
--- Type 0+ Dock

Total Infrastructure: 15 BP
Total Navy: 105 BP
Total used: 120 BP

Edit: considering the large number of small ships that I will have to deal with, I made the docks '+' docks.

[Walter]

The army strength now is slightly higher than my initial 750,000-1,000,000 estimate and now comes in at 1,140,000 (when they get along). One reason is the addition of guards in Beijing and Lhasa and the other reason was that I was initially messing around with 25,000 men units only which for the specialists and cavalry I has 'split' in two (so 2 specialist/cavalry divisions in one 'Navalism' division) and when I changed it to the below based on number of brigades, I added a few cavalry units here and there due to the changes in the unit's number of troops while specialist units went up from 12,500 to 15,000.

The armies consist of 77 Divisions. These are 18 normal infantry divisions (5 brigades = 25,000), 20 specialist divisions (= 3 brigades = 15,000) and 39 cavalry divisions (= 2 brigades = 10,000). I still have to figure out which units will be active and which ones will be in reserve. The guards will always be mobilized.

Not sure if the mods will accept it, but I put in Steppe Infantry and Steppe Cavalry specialist units in my list. I kinda see the Steppe Cavalry like the desert unit but using horses. I expect them to be faster than camels (mobility = 1.75x) but not as effective as camels (combat = 1.25x) since camels are more adapted to that kind of terrain. I would expect the infantry to be the same as the cavalry strength-wise (combat = 1.25x) but slower than the camels and at the same time faster than the regular infantry (mobility = 1.25x).

They're all 1880 units except for the guards units which are 1895.


Chinese Armies (1,140,000)
-- Army of Wei (170,000)
---- 1st Wei Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 2nd Wei Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 3rd Wei Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 4th Wei Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 5th Wei Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 6th Wei Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 1st Wei Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 2nd Wei Cavalry Division (10,000)
-- Imperial Guards (60,000)
---- 1st Imperial Guards Division (15,000)
---- 2nd Imperial Guards Division (15,000)
---- 3rd Imperial Guards Division (15,000)
---- 4th Imperial Guards Division (15,000)
-- Army of Wu (170,000)
---- 1st Wu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 2nd Wu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 3rd Wu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 4th Wu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 1st Wu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 2nd Wu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 3rd Wu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 4th Wu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 1st Wu Marines Division (15,000)
---- 2nd Wu Marines Division (15,000)
-- Army of Shu (155,000)
---- 1st Shu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 2nd Shu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 3rd Shu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 1st Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 2nd Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 3rd Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 4th Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 5th Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 6th Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 7th Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 8th Shu Cavalry Division (10,000)
-- Army of Manchuria (105,000)
---- 1st Manchu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 2nd Manchu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 3rd Manchu Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 1st Manchu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 2nd Manchu Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 3rd Manchu Cavalry Division (10,000)
-- Army of Mongolia (200,000)
---- 1st Mongol Steppe Infantry Division (15,000)
---- 2nd Mongol Steppe Infantry Division (15,000)
---- 3rd Mongol Steppe Infantry Division (15,000)
---- 4th Mongol Steppe Infantry Division (15,000)
---- 5th Mongol Steppe Infantry Division (15,000)
---- 6th Mongol Steppe Infantry Division (15,000)
---- 1st Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 2nd Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 3rd Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 4th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 5th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 6th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 7th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 8th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 9th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 10th Mongol Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
-- Army of Uyghur (120,000)
---- 1st Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 2nd Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 3rd Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 4th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 5th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 6th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 7th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 8th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 9th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 10th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 11th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
---- 12th Uyghur Steppe Cavalry Division (10,000)
-- Army of Tibet (140,000)
---- 1st Tibet Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 2nd Tibet Infantry Division (25,000)
---- 1st Tibet Mountain Division (15,000)
---- 2nd Tibet Mountain Division (15,000)
---- 3rd Tibet Mountain Division (15,000)
---- 4th Tibet Mountain Division (15,000)
---- 5th Tibet Mountain Division (15,000)
---- 6th Tibet Mountain Division (15,000)
-- Potala Guards (30,000)
---- 1st Potala Guards Division (15,000)
---- 2nd Potala Guards Division (15,000)

[Walter]

Not sure if it is reasonable. Just dumped some stuff into the spreadsheet...

Fortifications and coast defense artilery

Hong Kong
Fan Lau Fort (1 citadel)
Lei Yue Mun Fort (3 citadel)
Tung Chung Fort (1 citadel)
2x 225mm (fortified, ed)
3x 175mm (fortified, ed)
10x 150mm (6 fortified, 4 open)

Shanghai
Baoshan Fort (3 citadel)
4x 225mm (fortified, ed)
8x 150mm (fortified)

Fuzhou
2x 225mm (fortified, ed)
6x 150mm (open)

Macau
Mong Ha Fort (1 citadel)
1x 175mm (fortified, ed)
3x 150mm (open)

Tianjin
Taku Forts (6 citadel)
1x 175mm (fortified, ed)
3x 150mm (open)

Takao
1x 175mm (fortified, ed)
3x 150mm (open)

Weihai
1x 175mm (fortified, ed)
3x 150mm (open)

Miran
New Miran Fort (1 citadel)