Rollcall and Other Misc. Statistics

Started by Logi, March 21, 2014, 02:20:54 PM

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Quote from: Walter on June 19, 2014, 03:07:44 PM
China $3.79/BP
Germany $0.79/BP
Japan $2.24/BP
Ottoman $1.32/BP
Russia $2.17/BP
UK $1.41/BP (edited using Darman's numbers)
USA $0.98/BP
I think in addition to bringing some of the nations up, China is going to have to come down a few rungs.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Walter

With that one the UK is at $1.61/BP.

Darman, if I add those numbers I get a population of 360.83. Your 357.53 misses the 3.3 from English Midlands.

QuoteI think in addition to bringing some of the nations up, China is going to have to come down a few rungs.
I disagree. You just gave me too little BPs for my revenue...

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Quote from: Walter on June 19, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
QuoteI think in addition to bringing some of the nations up, China is going to have to come down a few rungs.
I disagree. You just gave me too little BPs for my revenue...
China will be reworked to match the other nations it should be about equivalent to in this time period. That means revisions in income and possibly BP.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Walter

IIRC, it was already known from the moment you guys came up with the numbers that China's budget could max out at $93 but you left it as is. Looking at the numbers, I can bring it down to $2.30/BP if I arrange the ICs differently but I will have a research budget of $25.10 then...

Actually with that budget I had some other ideas to add that would mean that some of the budget would be unavailable. I scrapped those ideas just before posting the final stuff, but I might as well throw them out on the board...

Logi

Here are the modified figures we have agreed on. The goal of the modifications was to bring everyone into the $1.5/BP - $2/BP region with the ability to research two technologies at once ($3 research cap). I've also eliminated the 0.5 ICs hanging around.

Country         Pop                                           IC                 BP 
USA76.54331
ENG360.834628
GER572424
FRA58.781315
RUS149.92112
TUR55139
CHI403.5712
JAP66.1116

USA: 31 IC -> 43 IC
GER: 16.5 IC -> 24 IC
CHI: 26 IC -> 7 IC


Regarding China and it's $93 budget, you may recall that originally we intended to have that work against the concept of civilian goods and corresponding revolt risk. After the civilian goods clause was removed, we sort of forgot about China's large budget until now. I'll say, as the person who crafted the Chinese numbers, it was never meant to be this high without some sort of large drawback.

miketr

New Numbers.


RegionPopICBPRevenueResearch
Berlin2.005.004.506.703
East Prussia5.502.001.504.550
Silesia-Posen7.002.002.004.700
South Germany11.004.004.509.100
Rhine-Westphalia10.004.004.509.000
Saxony-Brandenburg8.003.003.006.800
Hanover-S-H6.002.002.004.600
Hesse-Thuringia7.002.002.004.700
0.000
Deutsch-Neuguinea0.500.000.050
Total57242450.203



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Quote from: Logi on June 19, 2014, 06:42:58 PM
with the ability to research two technologies at once ($3 research cap)

A quick note about this part. If you want, you can go higher or lower then this cap. It is the figure we decided to balance around however, so results may vary if you choose to go above or below it (I'm personally going for 3 techs, so $7)
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

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Quote from: Logi on June 19, 2014, 06:42:58 PM
I'll say, as the person who crafted the Chinese numbers, it was never meant to be this high without some sort of large drawback.
Just so its publicly noted, I am of the same position as Logi.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Guinness

With the new numbers:


CountryYearHalfWarRatio
Russia19001NO50
RegionPopICBPRevenueResearch
European Russia89.910728.990
St. Petersburg2335.21
Moscow1213.11
Congress Poland25318.50
Finland20.501.20
Caucusus10.5103.050
Siberia12.5103.250
Turkestan70.501.70
Total149.9211254.992

Darman

Quote from: Walter on June 19, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
With that one the UK is at $1.61/BP.

Darman, if I add those numbers I get a population of 360.83. Your 357.53 misses the 3.3 from English Midlands.

You are correct sir, when I added the Midlands I forgot to alter the "sum" function at the bottom of the column. 

The Rock Doctor

FYI - I let Delta Force know where we're at.  He might end up popping by.

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Quote from: The Rock Doctor on June 20, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
FYI - I let Delta Force know where we're at.  He might end up popping by.
Ok, will see what happens there.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

miketr

I am not done with filling the spreadsheet out but right now I have a $1.5 to spend on new anything.

Sooooooooooooooooooo if any one has extra cash and wants to order a ship drop me a PM.  There is going to be 20 plus BP that I won't be able to use for odds are a decade.

Michael

Walter

QuoteIf you want, you can go higher or lower then this cap.
Unlike what you say, if I wanted to go higher than that cap, I can't... 2 tech is my max. The only way for me to be able to get to 3 techs is to assign all 7 ICs to a region witout any people...

Not that I would go for it. As you have seen in the original set-up, I went for a research budget of less than $2 despite the fact that I had a lot more ICs than now. To me it is more a case of you stating something that sounds like every one of us can do, but in reality, that is not the case at all.
QuoteSooooooooooooooooooo if any one has extra cash and wants to order a ship drop me a PM.  There is going to be 20 plus BP that I won't be able to use for odds are a decade.
Well, with what I have in mind, I may end up with some 'leftover' BPs as well each HY (due to the Evil Mods removing over 70% of my ICs), but I think about putting those BPs into various projects and pay for them next HY in order to complete it.

Considering the number of BPs Germany has compared to its revenue, it is not really an option for Germany to do.

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Quote from: Walter on June 22, 2014, 08:32:11 AM
it is not really an option for Germany to do.
We might still need to make some adjustments to individual nations. And we still are working on that process.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon