Rollcall and Other Misc. Statistics

[snip]

Spain : While the navy would have been wiped out, starting from scratch always has some appeal. With a bigger domestic population, and average industrial base, it should be well positioned to push for Africa and "new colonies". Plus if the big boys are busy somewher, they could always make a push for Portugal and it's colonies. 

Treaty of Windsor.

Hmmm, what happened the last time British troops set foot in Spain? Ah, yes, the USA tried to take its hat back.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Heh,
I haven't really researched Spain yet, part of the allure. I know after 1898, much of the need for the fleet vanished, but they were still capable of construction of the Espana class, and had the Hispano-Suiza plants- both of which puts them ahead of many minor powers.  Gives them the ability to rebuild, while racing for new colonies.  No oil though. As for the Treaty of Windsor, didn't know if it, and now that I do I'm surprised a treaty has lasted that long, esp after the British actions of 1890 :) Perhaps if the Brits were busy elsewhere.... fun to muse

[The Rock Doctor]

Sweden-Norway's going to have some industrial capacity.  You've got some opportunity to prevent the split of 1905, and could get involved in Africa.

Portugal itself might be fun, depending on what you're wanting to focus on.  Maybe not a huge ship builder, but certainly a far-flung empire.

[snip]

Sweden-Norway's going to have some industrial capacity.  You've got some opportunity to prevent the split of 1905, and could get involved in Africa.

Sweden is another interesting option.

[Guinness]

Wait: did/does the Spanish American war happen? We seemed to have hand-waved the Philippines to Japan, and I think Cuba's status is ambiguous too.

I think Spain *could be* a very fun second-rate power for someone if their overseas holdings are substantial enough, and if we can stimulate foreign ship sales adequately.

[Guinness]

Sweden-Norway has the potential to piss Russia and it's Finland holding off. Just saying.

[The Rock Doctor]

It's the low-cost, assemble-yourself furniture, isn't it? 

[Guinness]

They've got the best looking reindeer and cheaper booze.

[snip]

Wait: did/does the Spanish American war happen? We seemed to have hand-waved the Philippines to Japan, and I think Cuba's status is ambiguous too.

It happens like this (or at least I remember talking about this with Logi). The Caribbean stuff happens roughly as historical, the US kicks the Spanish out of Cuba and Puerto Rico. USA! USA! The Pacific gets a little different. Rather then sit back and watch until after Dewey arrives, the Japanese go full hog on the Philippines. By the time Dewey gets there, the Japanese military is waving at him from the forts. Rather then fight the IJN, Dewey high tails it to Guam and claims grand victory. So the end of the war sees (as historical) Puerto Rico and Guam annexed^[1] and Cuba...well I want to do Cuba differently than OTL. But most of that will come after 1900. So at the moment, Cuba is occupied^[2] but with a larger force then historical.

[1] This adds a grand total of $0.10 to my income and a spot for a South Pacific naval base (paid for). Yay?
[2] Historically the occupation lasted until 1902 with another stint from 1906 to 1909. This is not currently adding income.

It's the low-cost, assemble-yourself furniture, isn't it? 

I may or may not have disturbed coworkers laughing at this.

[Guinness]

Mildly contrived, but then again, what's not in the Nverse? ;-) I'll go with that.

[Kaiser Kirk]

One benefit of Sweden-Norway is the mythological names and odes to Vikings, another is the Swedish industrial base produced guns/tanks/planes/ships.
One negative is being right next to the UK/France/Germany/Russia. It's crowded with nations on your SLOC and the combined pop of Sweden & Norway was low.

In 1900 -
Italy : 32m
Spain : 20.75m

Norway : 2.24
Sweden : 5.1
Total : 7.34

Netherlands Europe : 5.6
Belgium : 6.1
Lux : 0.25
Total : 11.95

Portugal Europe : 5.75

Persia : 7m

Granted, the 45m in the Dutch colonies is another $4.5IC, and the Portuguese have some colonies as well, but 5-7% of their pop in the military will give relatively small numbers of troops and ships unless natives can be relied on...and they can't.

I dunno. Still just musing. And breakfast time.

[The Rock Doctor]

Judging from the map, Spain's retained the Canarias and Fernando Po.  That gives them two bases for colonization into Africa. 

Should be decent industry and tech, decent budgets. 

The resounding defeat against the Americans and Japanese should certainly allow for some late changes to the Spanish government and issues like military funding and corruption.

[miketr]

I would say that Italy is the best bet in terms of Industry.  The Netherlands has the best opening in terms of already having colonies of note.

Portugal or Spain would be interesting BUT I expect them to be very weak in terms of economy.

Michael

[Walter]

They've got the best looking reindeer and cheaper booze.

I would assume that the mods are now thinking of introducing the reindeer cavalry to the specialist units list. ;D

[miketr]

They've got the best looking reindeer and cheaper booze.

I would assume that the mods are now thinking of introducing the reindeer cavalry to the specialist units list. ;D

Only if they introduce Sleigh Infantry too..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sleigh_Drive