Strait crossing fees

[P3D]

Papist scare? Oranje is rather more concerned about our fellow evangelical and reformed brothers and sisters in Christ - the Brandyburgers.

[Desertfox]

Korpen found a nice map of the Torres Strait.

http://www.nepia.com/fin/modules/Library/assets/IndustryNews/Documents/180506%20Torres%20Strait%20pilotage.pdf

It seems as the main shipping chanel does fall within the 3 mile Swiss Territorial limit.

Despite that NS will not charge a fee for shipping transiting the strait. However ships longer than 390ft (70m), or with deep draught, or carrying hazardous cargo, will require the assistance of a trained pilot* before crossing said strait.  Ammunition larger than 130mm and torpedoes over 16" are considered hazardous cargo. Austrian flagged vessels are forbidden from using the strait.

*The pilot will charge a nominal fee for his services. Nations friendly to NS can apply for a fee waiver, others can hire said pilots at an (for us) insignificant rate.


EDIT: Cost changed

[The Rock Doctor]

Sounds like a fee to me...guess you won't be invited to Scapa Flow either.

[Korpen]

Sounds like a fee to me...guess you won't be invited to Scapa Flow either.

And exactly what is that supposed to mean? ;)

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Korpen - the Scapa Flow manouveres are attended by countries denouncing the charging of fees for passage of international waters. So I understand Rocky's comment to mean that a country imposing such fees will not be invited to such a party.

Torres Strait fees - until a player puts up his or her report, his or her posts have no "gaming value".

Borys

[The Rock Doctor]

Borys, Korpen:  correct.

[Desertfox]

Well you only need to pay the fee if your transporting large ships through. Small ships with non hazardous cargos can pass by anytime without paying. The strait is a dangerous area, you wouldnt want your ship to hit a rock because you didnt pay, and besides I have swampy as a neighbor, I should count all of his ships as hazardous.

Borys, I would already have had my report up if you guys hadnt gone and change all the rules around.

[Desertfox]

On second tought the shipping through Torres is small enough that no actual (report wise) rate will be charged. 

[Korpen]

it always pleases Brussels when states remove factors that infringe on the freedom of navigation on the high seas.

[miketr]

What is the status of usage of Straits?  IE is anyone going to attempt to charge anyone for the use of a strait?

Mike / Iberia

[Korpen]

What is the status of usage of Straits?  IE is anyone going to attempt to charge anyone for the use of a strait?

Mike / Iberia

The only answer to that is maybe, there is nothing that prevents a state from trying.
but it is not a friendly gesture to try and do it...

[Borys]

Ahoj!
If a Strait requeries expenditure on lights, bouys, possibly dredging, AND a pilot, it would be fair for the host country to charge some fee. I'm fairly sure you have to pay for the Dardanales and Bosforus.
Especially that these are Internal Waters. In 1857 the Copenhage Convention abolished Danish fees on the use of the Sund.

Borys

[miketr]

It is stated that the Strait of Dover are considered by France and United Norman Kingdom to be soverign waters and backed by international agreement.  Is this correct on both counts?  If true on the later what agreement and date?

The New Swiss have dropped their straight payment idea.  And it appears that France and UNK will allow civilian ships free access to Dover but what of military.  Also anyone else going to try like tactics?  Before Iberia can make a clear statement on this matter Madrid needs to know what the other powers exact policy is, whats out is a little confusing to say the least.

Iberia

[Desertfox]

The Torres Strait due to its dagerous nature and NS Territorial Waters location, requires a small piloting fee for large ships and those carrying hazardous cargos (includes certain warships).

The fees are too small to be considered in our reports.

[Carthaginian]

The CSA, now and forever, refuses to believe that any nation has the right to impede free trade through international waters. Further, the CSA believes that no nation should be able to lay more than a 3-mile territorial waters claim.

However, if some nation tries to do this and succeeds via military might or threat thereof and later finds the favor returned upon them by another power, the CSA would largely laugh it off as poetic justice.