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Started by Darman, August 28, 2013, 04:28:44 PM

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Darman

Have the rules been updated to reflect our sailing ship rules and if we are moving to a new system of port capacity measurement?

KWorld

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Not yet, I'll do that today if there are no comments on either.  Same with updating the slips/drydock sizes.

KWorld

Hmmmm.  Anyone know how the various tables were posted?  I can create and post things using Nobody's converter, but that doesn't include things like the separator lines that the current tables use, which are nice for clarity's sake.

Guinness

which tables? point me to a link?

I have, in the past, concocted some excel magic for making bbcode tables...

Jefgte

Did we must use the last spread sheet to start?

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

KWorld

Quote from: Guinness on August 29, 2013, 08:17:20 AM
which tables? point me to a link?

I have, in the past, concocted some excel magic for making bbcode tables...

http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5927.0.html

KWorld

Quote from: Jefgte on August 29, 2013, 08:30:34 AM
Did we must use the last spread sheet to start?

Jef  ;)

Not without modifications, since various things (slips, docks, ports, armies) have changed.  I've got a startup sheet that works, but I'll tweak it so it works better for armies (right now I'm just entering results from another sheet, which is OK, but not ideal).

Jefgte

Thanks for your work KW

;)  ;)  ;)

Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

KWorld

And here it is..... :)


Guinness

kworld, let me see if I can find the spreadsheet that made those. It's got macros...

Tonight hopefully. I've been three 3 computers, 2 jobs, and 2 houses since then. ;-)

Darman

My question about the rules is: when we upgrade our drydocks to produce more than one vessel at a time are there limitations to the sizes and/or quantity of vessels we can build in that single drydock?

Darman

oh, and how are we going to pay for our merchant vessels?  with 1/4 BP or for purely civilian vessels waive the BP requirement but pay for any military installations onboard with BP?

KWorld

Quote from: Darman on August 31, 2013, 09:49:21 PM
My question about the rules is: when we upgrade our drydocks to produce more than one vessel at a time are there limitations to the sizes and/or quantity of vessels we can build in that single drydock?

There are limits, yes, but they're set by geometry more than the rules. Assume a drydock is 25% as wide as it is long.  That sets the maximum width you can use (leaving some space between the ships for safety and movement).

For example, you could build 4 90m long x 15m wide ships in a drydock that's 200m long.  If the ships were 120m long x 15m wide, you could only 2 (maybe 3, if they were relatively pointy).

Darman

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Quote from: KWorld on September 01, 2013, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Darman on August 31, 2013, 09:49:21 PM
My question about the rules is: when we upgrade our drydocks to produce more than one vessel at a time are there limitations to the sizes and/or quantity of vessels we can build in that single drydock?

There are limits, yes, but they're set by geometry more than the rules. Assume a drydock is 25% as wide as it is long.  That sets the maximum width you can use (leaving some space between the ships for safety and movement).

For example, you could build 4 90m long x 15m wide ships in a drydock that's 200m long.  If the ships were 120m long x 15m wide, you could only 2 (maybe 3, if they were relatively pointy).
Works for me.  Just so long as there is some sort of hard and fast rule.  Which this is, Considering its based off the geometry of the drydock.  So when we "plus-size" a drydock we are basically building in the extra equipment (cranes etc) necessary to work on more than one vessel at a time?

KWorld

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Quote from: Darman on September 01, 2013, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: KWorld on September 01, 2013, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Darman on August 31, 2013, 09:49:21 PM
My question about the rules is: when we upgrade our drydocks to produce more than one vessel at a time are there limitations to the sizes and/or quantity of vessels we can build in that single drydock?

There are limits, yes, but they're set by geometry more than the rules. Assume a drydock is 25% as wide as it is long.  That sets the maximum width you can use (leaving some space between the ships for safety and movement).

For example, you could build 4 90m long x 15m wide ships in a drydock that's 200m long.  If the ships were 120m long x 15m wide, you could only 2 (maybe 3, if they were relatively pointy).
Works for me.  Just so long as there is some sort of hard and fast rule.  Which this is, Considering its based off the geometry of the drydock.  So when we "plus-size" a drydock we are basically building in the extra equipment (cranes etc) necessary to work on more than one vessel at a time?

Yes.  When you "plus" a drydock, you're adding additional construction support equipment, rather than changing the size of the drydock.