Brazilian Design Competition 1901

[KWorld]

And a revised version of the 10" submission from Fore River:

Fore River Export, United States Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   7,944 t light; 8,340 t standard; 9,132 t normal; 9,766 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (435.00 ft / 435.00 ft) x 60.00 ft x (24.25 / 25.52 ft)
   (132.59 m / 132.59 m) x 18.29 m  x (7.39 / 7.78 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10.00" / 254 mm 40.0 cal guns - 510.00lbs / 231.33kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      14 - 5.00" / 127 mm 50.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      10 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.01lbs / 5.90kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,870 lbs / 1,302 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   317.55 ft / 96.79 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   117.43 ft / 35.79 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   317.55 ft / 96.79 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -         4.00" / 102 mm

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.50" / 38 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 16,017 ihp / 11,949 Kw = 20.50 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,426 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   466 - 607

Cost:
   £0.845 million / $3.379 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 565 tons, 6.2 %
      - Guns: 565 tons, 6.2 %
   Armour: 2,337 tons, 25.6 %
      - Belts: 1,352 tons, 14.8 %
      - Armament: 439 tons, 4.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 489 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 56 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 2,503 tons, 27.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,503 tons, 27.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,188 tons, 13.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 0.4 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7,357 lbs / 3,337 Kg = 14.7 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 12.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.505 / 0.513
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.86 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   16.00 %,  18.50 ft / 5.64 m,  15.50 ft / 4.72 m
      - Forward deck:   34.00 %,  15.50 ft / 4.72 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Aft deck:   39.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Quarter deck:   11.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.02 ft / 4.27 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 17,469 Square feet or 1,623 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 506 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.75
      - Overall: 1.01
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 18" 5m side mounted submerged torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.

[KWorld]

And a revised PC:

Export PC, United States Protected Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   3,449 t light; 3,600 t standard; 4,084 t normal; 4,471 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (364.20 ft / 360.00 ft) x 42.50 ft x (18.50 / 19.82 ft)
   (111.01 m / 109.73 m) x 12.95 m  x (5.64 / 6.04 m)

Armament:
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.01lbs / 47.63kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 828 lbs / 376 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,239 ihp / 8,384 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 871 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   255 - 332

Cost:
   £0.442 million / $1.769 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 243 tons, 5.9 %
      - Guns: 243 tons, 5.9 %
   Armour: 457 tons, 11.2 %
      - Belts: 160 tons, 3.9 %
      - Armament: 42 tons, 1.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 239 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,705 tons, 41.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,003 tons, 24.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 635 tons, 15.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 41 tons, 1.0 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,704 lbs / 773 Kg = 15.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.505 / 0.516
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.47 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.20 ft / 1.28 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.62 ft / 3.24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 154.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,241 Square feet or 951 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 85 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 340 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.42
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 18" 5m broadside submerged wet heater torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless fit.

[Nobody]

Nobody, is there any way you could replace the 120mm guns on the armored cruiser with the same 150mm guns on the protected cruiser?  If it means the loss of a few 88mm mounts that would be fine.

I'll try later, before some more oddballs.
I was about to ask what they prefer anyway
- few big guns, a "normal" design or just many guns
- many calibers or many of the same
- intermediate calibers or a strong light battery

(Almost) All German designs can carry a radio and torpedos - I'm just a bit too lazy to mention that every time.

First up, a big PC:
K4500a, German Export protected cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   4.500 t light; 4.685 t standard; 5.272 t normal; 5.742 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393,70 ft / 393,70 ft) x 45,93 ft x (21,00 / 22,38 ft)
   (120,00 m / 120,00 m) x 14,00 m  x (6,40 / 6,82 m)

Armament:
      6 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 88,18lbs / 40,00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      4 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 88,18lbs / 40,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      6 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 15,43lbs / 7,00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,96lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1.500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      2 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 978 lbs / 444 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   3,35" / 85 mm   255,91 ft / 78,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm   1,18" / 30 mm      3,54" / 90 mm
   2nd:   3,94" / 100 mm   1,97" / 50 mm      3,94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   1,18" / 30 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1,97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 3,15" / 80 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5,51" / 140 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12.704 ihp / 9.477 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 6.170nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.057 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   309 - 402

Cost:
   £0,506 million / $2,023 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 207 tons, 3,9%
      - Guns: 207 tons, 3,9%
   Armour: 921 tons, 17,5%
      - Belts: 285 tons, 5,4%
      - Armament: 130 tons, 2,5%
      - Armour Deck: 462 tons, 8,8%
      - Conning Towers: 44 tons, 0,8%
   Machinery: 1.985 tons, 37,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1.352 tons, 25,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 773 tons, 14,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0,7%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2.907 lbs / 1.319 Kg = 28,2 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 0,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
   Metacentric height 2,5 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 12,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,33
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,55

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,486 / 0,497
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Forward deck:   15,00%,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Aft deck:   50,00%,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  9,84 ft / 3,00 m,  10,50 ft / 3,20 m
      - Average freeboard:      12,89 ft / 3,93 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 134,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 86,1%
   Waterplane Area: 11.897 Square feet or 1.105 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 359 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,65
      - Overall: 1,00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather


A medium-sized oddball AC:
K6800a, German Export Armored cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   6.800 t light; 7.093 t standard; 7.838 t normal; 8.434 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (465,88 ft / 459,32 ft) x 52,49 ft x (22,31 / 23,60 ft)
   (142,00 m / 140,00 m) x 16,00 m  x (6,80 / 7,19 m)

Armament:
      2 - 9,45" / 240 mm 40,0 cal guns - 308,65lbs / 140,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 88,18lbs / 40,00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 15,43lbs / 7,00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      6 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,96lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1.500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1.628 lbs / 739 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,09" / 180 mm   298,56 ft / 91,00 m   8,69 ft / 2,65 m
   Ends:   3,94" / 100 mm   160,73 ft / 48,99 m   8,69 ft / 2,65 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   298,56 ft / 91,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8,66" / 220 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   5,91" / 150 mm   3,15" / 80 mm      5,91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 4,72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13.213 ihp / 9.857 Kw = 20,10 kts
   Range 6.080nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.341 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   416 - 541

Cost:
   £0,641 million / $2,564 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 351 tons, 4,5%
      - Guns: 351 tons, 4,5%
   Armour: 2.240 tons, 28,6%
      - Belts: 1.360 tons, 17,4%
      - Armament: 415 tons, 5,3%
      - Armour Deck: 358 tons, 4,6%
      - Conning Towers: 107 tons, 1,4%
   Machinery: 2.065 tons, 26,3%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.104 tons, 26,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.038 tons, 13,2%
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 0,5%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 5 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8.073 lbs / 3.662 Kg = 19,1 x 9,4 " / 240 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20
   Metacentric height 2,7 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 13,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,57

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,510 / 0,519
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21,43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  19,29 ft / 5,88 m,  14,99 ft / 4,57 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00%,  14,99 ft / 4,57 m,  14,99 ft / 4,57 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00%,  14,99 ft / 4,57 m,  14,99 ft / 4,57 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  14,99 ft / 4,57 m,  15,42 ft / 4,70 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,37 ft / 4,68 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111,3%
   Waterplane Area: 16.212 Square feet or 1.506 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 87 lbs/sq ft or 422 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,48
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather


And the change your requested, but no guns lost :P:
K8000b, German export armored cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8.000 t light; 8.285 t standard; 9.104 t normal; 9.759 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (538,06 ft / 526,57 ft) x 59,06 ft x (20,01 / 21,11 ft)
   (164,00 m / 160,50 m) x 18,00 m  x (6,10 / 6,43 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on sides amidships
      1 raised mount
      6 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 88,18lbs / 40,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      10 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 30,0 cal guns - 15,43lbs / 7,00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      6 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,96lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1.500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      2 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1.642 lbs / 745 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,69" / 170 mm   342,85 ft / 104,50 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   2,95" / 75 mm   183,72 ft / 56,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Upper:   2,17" / 55 mm   343,34 ft / 104,65 m   9,19 ft / 2,80 m
     Main Belt covers 100% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   3,54" / 90 mm      7,09" / 180 mm
   2nd:   4,72" / 120 mm   2,76" / 70 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   3rd:   1,18" / 30 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8,66" / 220 mm, Aft 4,72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 13.837 ihp / 10.322 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 5.970nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.473 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   465 - 605

Cost:
   £0,704 million / $2,817 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 373 tons, 4,1%
      - Guns: 373 tons, 4,1%
   Armour: 2.494 tons, 27,4%
      - Belts: 1.406 tons, 15,4%
      - Armament: 430 tons, 4,7%
      - Armour Deck: 532 tons, 5,8%
      - Conning Towers: 126 tons, 1,4%
   Machinery: 2.162 tons, 23,7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.939 tons, 32,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.105 tons, 12,1%
   Miscellaneous weights: 32 tons, 0,4%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11.304 lbs / 5.128 Kg = 40,0 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
   Metacentric height 3,0 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 14,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,51

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,512 / 0,520
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,92 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,95 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -20,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  25,20 ft / 7,68 m,  20,64 ft / 6,29 m
      - Forward deck:   38,00%,  20,64 ft / 6,29 m,  20,64 ft / 6,29 m
      - Aft deck:   27,00%,  10,30 ft / 3,14 m,  10,30 ft / 3,14 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  10,30 ft / 3,14 m,  10,30 ft / 3,14 m
      - Average freeboard:      16,66 ft / 5,08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 140,2%
   Waterplane Area: 20.948 Square feet or 1.946 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 98 lbs/sq ft or 479 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,21
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Tanthalas]

and yet another Italian offering, sorta light on the main guns but the secondary battery makes up for it IMHO (layout and crap stolen from british period ACs)

Vindication, Italia for Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8,000 t light; 8,303 t standard; 9,096 t normal; 9,730 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (434.00 ft / 434.00 ft) x 56.00 ft x (25.00 / 26.34 ft)
   (132.28 m / 132.28 m) x 17.07 m  x (7.62 / 8.03 m)

Armament:
      2 - 9.20" / 234 mm 45.0 cal guns - 392.66lbs / 178.11kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 7.50" / 191 mm 45.0 cal guns - 212.74lbs / 96.50kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      4 - 7.50" / 191 mm 45.0 cal guns - 212.74lbs / 96.50kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      10 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2,617 lbs / 1,187 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   286.00 ft / 87.17 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   148.00 ft / 45.11 m   8.98 ft / 2.74 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   286.00 ft / 87.17 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      4.00" / 102 mm
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   4th:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.00" / 178 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 14,571 ihp / 10,870 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,427 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   465 - 605

Cost:
   £0.799 million / $3.196 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 608 tons, 6.7 %
      - Guns: 608 tons, 6.7 %
   Armour: 2,734 tons, 30.1 %
      - Belts: 1,642 tons, 18.1 %
      - Armament: 470 tons, 5.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 556 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 66 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 2,277 tons, 25.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,370 tons, 26.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,096 tons, 12.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 11 tons, 0.1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 11 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,157 lbs / 4,153 Kg = 23.5 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
   Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.70

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.524 / 0.532
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.05 ft / 4.89 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,555 Square feet or 1,538 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 100 lbs/sq ft or 486 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 1.98
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Nobody]

My take on a minimum armored cruiser:
K6000a, German Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   6.000 t light; 6.224 t standard; 6.875 t normal; 7.397 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393,70 ft / 393,70 ft) x 52,49 ft x (22,97 / 24,28 ft)
   (120,00 m / 120,00 m) x 16,00 m  x (7,00 / 7,40 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4,13" / 105 mm 40,0 cal guns - 37,48lbs / 17,00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 4,13" / 105 mm 40,0 cal guns - 37,48lbs / 17,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,96lbs / 0,44kg shells, 500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1.410 lbs / 639 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5,91" / 150 mm   278,87 ft / 85,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   3,15" / 80 mm   114,83 ft / 35,00 m   8,69 ft / 2,65 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   278,87 ft / 85,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 109% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7,87" / 200 mm   3,15" / 80 mm      6,30" / 160 mm
   2nd:   1,97" / 50 mm         -               -
   3rd:   3,94" / 100 mm   3,15" / 80 mm      3,94" / 100 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,09" / 180 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12.599 ihp / 9.398 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 5.890nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.173 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   376 - 490

Cost:
   £0,594 million / $2,374 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 328 tons, 4,8%
      - Guns: 328 tons, 4,8%
   Armour: 1.876 tons, 27,3%
      - Belts: 1.157 tons, 16,8%
      - Armament: 327 tons, 4,8%
      - Armour Deck: 305 tons, 4,4%
      - Conning Towers: 86 tons, 1,2%
   Machinery: 1.969 tons, 28,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1.793 tons, 26,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 875 tons, 12,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0,5%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5.895 lbs / 2.674 Kg = 20,9 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22
   Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 13,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,58

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,507 / 0,516
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -20,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  17,85 ft / 5,44 m,  13,88 ft / 4,23 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00%,  13,88 ft / 4,23 m,  13,88 ft / 4,23 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00%,  13,88 ft / 4,23 m,  13,88 ft / 4,23 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  13,88 ft / 4,23 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:      14,26 ft / 4,35 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107,7%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97,4%
   Waterplane Area: 13.858 Square feet or 1.287 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 88 lbs/sq ft or 428 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,93
      - Longitudinal: 1,92
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

EDIT
I have one more:
K8000c, German Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8.000 t light; 8.391 t standard; 9.165 t normal; 9.784 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (419,95 ft / 413,39 ft) x 59,06 ft x (24,61 / 25,90 ft)
   (128,00 m / 126,00 m) x 18,00 m  x (7,50 / 7,89 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm 40,0 cal guns - 37,48lbs / 17,00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,96lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1.500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3.637 lbs / 1.650 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,09" / 180 mm   305,12 ft / 93,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Ends:   2,76" / 70 mm   108,27 ft / 33,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Upper:   3,15" / 80 mm   275,59 ft / 84,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 114% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8,66" / 220 mm   3,15" / 80 mm      7,87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   5,91" / 150 mm   2,76" / 70 mm      5,91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   7,87" / 200 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,09" / 180 mm
   4th:   1,18" / 30 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 15.005 ihp / 11.194 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 5.890nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.393 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   467 - 608

Cost:
   £0,868 million / $3,473 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 792 tons, 8,6%
      - Guns: 792 tons, 8,6%
   Armour: 2.507 tons, 27,4%
      - Belts: 1.229 tons, 13,4%
      - Armament: 759 tons, 8,3%
      - Armour Deck: 426 tons, 4,6%
      - Conning Towers: 93 tons, 1,0%
   Machinery: 2.345 tons, 25,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.322 tons, 25,3%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.165 tons, 12,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0,4%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.461 lbs / 3.384 Kg = 26,4 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,24
   Metacentric height 3,4 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 13,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,51

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,534 / 0,542
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,33 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  18,31 ft / 5,58 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00%,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00%,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:      14,75 ft / 4,49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,3%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98,3%
   Waterplane Area: 16.784 Square feet or 1.559 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 517 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,92
      - Longitudinal: 1,99
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather


More feedback and design wishes are welcome. There are just too many ideas. I can't test them all.

[KWorld]

I not sure if you can put that many guns on something rather smaller, but I have some more pressing concerns about those (rule wise):

• superfiring (open) deck mounts in 1901? For a - what could be considered a major caliber gun no less - I think not. The earliest ship I can think of with something remotely similar are late WW1 destroyers.
  
• you can't just leave out the upper or end belt in an armored cruiser! That's classic "all or nothing" thinking, not yet invented. I think you would at least need something like 2 inches or 40-50% or your main armor thickness there.
  

1 - Per the rules for light cruiser architecture:
1900: Ammunition hoists, deck torpedo armament, superfiring mounts.

2 - All or nothing schemes are a 1912 development, agreed, but looking at it looks like historically there were a LOT of ships that had end armor, some ships that upper belt armor, and a fair number that had both.  Belt and end armor but no upper belt armor looks to have been pretty common on armored cruisers (much less so on battleships, which mostly had upper belts), and it wasn't uncommon to have only the bow equipped with end armor.

[Darman]

Nobody, I do have a question on your 2nd (8k) large armored cruiser.  you put two twin 210mm mounts on it plus 4 single 210 mounts on the broadsides.  I like this idea but is it technically legal according to the rules?  If you changed the 6 210mm casemate mounts to 8 105mm casemate mounts or better yet 6 150/155mm casemate mounts it might be better.  Put extra composite strength into belt armor (main and/or end). 

Nobody, is there any way you could replace the 120mm guns on the armored cruiser with the same 150mm guns on the protected cruiser?  If it means the loss of a few 88mm mounts that would be fine.

I'll try later, before some more oddballs.
I was about to ask what they prefer anyway
- few big guns, a "normal" design or just many guns
- many calibers or many of the same
- intermediate calibers or a strong light battery

(Almost) All German designs can carry a radio and torpedos - I'm just a bit too lazy to mention that every time.

A strong battery of lesser calibers for the PC is nice.  For the AC a nice strong main battery is best. 


Kworld, your 3450t PC looks pretty nice.  Any way you could bump the top speed up half a knot by adding tonnage?  How much tonnage would that add?

[Delta Force]

Here are designs for a standard IRN style armored cruiser, a raider, and a Spanish/French style armored cruiser (or at least OTL Spanish/French).

8000 Ton AC, Russia Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8,000 t light; 8,400 t standard; 9,198 t normal; 9,837 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (448.00 ft / 440.00 ft) x 50.00 ft (Bulges 56.00 ft) x (24.00 / 25.46 ft)
   (136.55 m / 134.11 m) x 15.24 m (Bulges 17.07 m)  x (7.32 / 7.76 m)

Armament:
      4 - 10.00" / 254 mm 45.0 cal guns - 500.01lbs / 226.80kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 89.99lbs / 40.82kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 11.99lbs / 5.44kg shells, 360 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,176 lbs / 1,441 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   312.00 ft / 95.10 m   13.86 ft / 4.22 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   128.00 ft / 39.01 m   13.86 ft / 4.22 m
     Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined -30.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.50" / 38 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8.00" / 203 mm, Aft 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 15,000 ihp / 11,190 Kw = 20.12 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,437 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   469 - 610

Cost:
   £0.865 million / $3.459 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 695 tons, 7.6 %
      - Guns: 695 tons, 7.6 %
   Armour: 2,668 tons, 29.0 %
      - Belts: 1,679 tons, 18.3 %
      - Armament: 410 tons, 4.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 427 tons, 4.6 %
      - Conning Towers: 151 tons, 1.6 %
   Machinery: 2,344 tons, 25.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,248 tons, 24.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,198 tons, 13.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 0.5 %
      - Hull below water: 20 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,517 lbs / 2,956 Kg = 13.0 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 15.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.544 / 0.549
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.86 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.98 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 74.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 15,273 Square feet or 1,419 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 504 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.35
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Tumblehome hull.

Belt and end armor belts cover 12 feet vertically. Belt armor is equivalent to 9.24 inches of vertical armor, end armor is equivalent to 4.62 inches of vertical armor.

Miscellaneous weight:
20 tons hull below water is for 6 x 18 inch torpedo tubes (2 fore, 2 aft, 1 each broadside) with 3 x 1,250 pound torpedoes each.
25 tons above deck reserve weight.

8000 Ton Fast AC, Russia Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8,000 t light; 8,354 t standard; 9,160 t normal; 9,805 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (478.00 ft / 470.00 ft) x 48.00 ft (Bulges 54.00 ft) x (22.00 / 23.40 ft)
   (145.69 m / 143.26 m) x 14.63 m (Bulges 16.46 m)  x (6.71 / 7.13 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 250.00lbs / 113.40kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 89.99lbs / 40.82kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 11.99lbs / 5.44kg shells, 360 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,176 lbs / 987 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   13.86 ft / 4.22 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm     60.00 ft / 18.29 m   13.86 ft / 4.22 m
     Main Belt covers 134 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined -30.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.50" / 38 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 8.00" / 203 mm, Aft 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 21,120 ihp / 15,755 Kw = 22.12 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,451 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   467 - 608

Cost:
   £0.907 million / $3.628 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 478 tons, 5.2 %
      - Guns: 478 tons, 5.2 %
   Armour: 2,057 tons, 22.5 %
      - Belts: 1,212 tons, 13.2 %
      - Armament: 244 tons, 2.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 451 tons, 4.9 %
      - Conning Towers: 151 tons, 1.6 %
   Machinery: 3,300 tons, 36.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,119 tons, 23.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,161 tons, 12.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 0.5 %
      - Hull below water: 20 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,605 lbs / 2,089 Kg = 18.0 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.19

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.574 / 0.578
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,106 Square feet or 1,496 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 441 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.06
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Tumblehome hull.

Belt and end armor belts cover 12 feet vertically. Belt armor is equivalent to 5.77 inches of vertical armor, end armor is equivalent to 3.46 inches of vertical armor.

Miscellaneous weight:
20 tons hull below water is for 6 x 18 inch torpedo tubes (2 fore, 2 aft, 1 each broadside) with 3 x 1,250 pound torpedoes each.
25 tons above deck reserve weight.

8000 Ton Fast AC 10 Inch, Russia Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8,000 t light; 8,354 t standard; 9,160 t normal; 9,805 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (478.00 ft / 470.00 ft) x 48.00 ft (Bulges 54.00 ft) x (22.00 / 23.40 ft)
   (145.69 m / 143.26 m) x 14.63 m (Bulges 16.46 m)  x (6.71 / 7.13 m)

Armament:
      1 - 10.00" / 254 mm 45.0 cal gun - 500.01lbs / 226.80kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading gun in turret on barbette mount, 1901 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      2 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 250.00lbs / 113.40kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1901 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 89.99lbs / 40.82kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 11.99lbs / 5.44kg shells, 360 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,176 lbs / 987 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   13.86 ft / 4.22 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm     60.00 ft / 18.29 m   13.86 ft / 4.22 m
     Main Belt covers 134 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined -30.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.50" / 38 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.00" / 178 mm, Aft 7.00" / 178 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 21,120 ihp / 15,755 Kw = 22.12 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,451 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   467 - 608

Cost:
   £0.906 million / $3.623 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 502 tons, 5.5 %
      - Guns: 502 tons, 5.5 %
   Armour: 2,034 tons, 22.2 %
      - Belts: 1,212 tons, 13.2 %
      - Armament: 239 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 451 tons, 4.9 %
      - Conning Towers: 132 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 3,300 tons, 36.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,119 tons, 23.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,161 tons, 12.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 0.5 %
      - Hull below water: 20 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,602 lbs / 2,087 Kg = 9.2 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.18

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.574 / 0.578
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,106 Square feet or 1,496 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 91 lbs/sq ft or 446 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.06
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Tumblehome hull.

Belt and end armor belts cover 12 feet vertically. Belt armor is equivalent to 5.77 inches of vertical armor, end armor is equivalent to 3.46 inches of vertical armor.

Miscellaneous weight:
20 tons hull below water is for 6 x 18 inch torpedo tubes (2 fore, 2 aft, 1 each broadside) with 3 x 1,250 pound torpedoes each.
25 tons above deck reserve weight.

[KWorld]

Kworld, your 3450t PC looks pretty nice.  Any way you could bump the top speed up half a knot by adding tonnage?  How much tonnage would that add?

Here's what a 21.5 knot version of that design looks like:

Export PC, United States Protected Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   3,849 t light; 4,010 t standard; 4,530 t normal; 4,947 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (389.20 ft / 385.00 ft) x 42.50 ft x (19.00 / 20.32 ft)
   (118.63 m / 117.35 m) x 12.95 m  x (5.79 / 6.19 m)

Armament:
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.01lbs / 47.63kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 828 lbs / 376 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   385.00 ft / 117.35 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,782 ihp / 9,535 Kw = 21.50 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 937 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   275 - 358

Cost:
   £0.493 million / $1.972 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 243 tons, 5.4 %
      - Guns: 243 tons, 5.4 %
   Armour: 487 tons, 10.8 %
      - Belts: 171 tons, 3.8 %
      - Armament: 42 tons, 0.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 256 tons, 5.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 18 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,967 tons, 43.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,111 tons, 24.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 681 tons, 15.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 41 tons, 0.9 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,780 lbs / 807 Kg = 16.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.510 / 0.521
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.06 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.20 ft / 1.28 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.62 ft / 3.24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 157.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,002 Square feet or 1,022 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 85 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 343 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.01
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 18" 5m broadside submerged wet heater torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless fit.


The original design, at 21.5 knots, looks like this:

Export PC, United States Protected Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   3,775 t light; 3,926 t standard; 4,441 t normal; 4,853 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (389.20 ft / 385.00 ft) x 42.50 ft x (19.00 / 20.32 ft)
   (118.63 m / 117.35 m) x 12.95 m  x (5.79 / 6.19 m)

Armament:
      5 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.01lbs / 47.63kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 723 lbs / 328 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   385.00 ft / 117.35 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,589 ihp / 9,392 Kw = 21.50 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 927 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   271 - 353

Cost:
   £0.474 million / $1.896 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 209 tons, 4.7 %
      - Guns: 209 tons, 4.7 %
   Armour: 479 tons, 10.8 %
      - Belts: 171 tons, 3.8 %
      - Armament: 37 tons, 0.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 254 tons, 5.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,936 tons, 43.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,110 tons, 25.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 666 tons, 15.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 41 tons, 0.9 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,777 lbs / 806 Kg = 16.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.511
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.06 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.20 ft / 1.28 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.62 ft / 3.24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 156.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,902 Square feet or 1,013 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 87 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs/sq ft or 340 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 18" 5m broadside submerged wet heater torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless fit.

[Nobody]

Nobody, I do have a question on your 2nd (8k) large armored cruiser.  you put two twin 210mm mounts on it plus 4 single 210 mounts on the broadsides.  I like this idea but is it technically legal according to the rules?

If you go by the letter than probably no, but that is exactly the configuration most real world German AC had. So I thought I might get away with it. ^^

[snip]

Nobody, I do have a question on your 2nd (8k) large armored cruiser.  you put two twin 210mm mounts on it plus 4 single 210 mounts on the broadsides.  I like this idea but is it technically legal according to the rules?

If you go by the letter than probably no, but that is exactly the configuration most real world German AC had. So I thought I might get away with it. ^^

As I see it, the style is still only capable of firing six "main" guns on the broadside. So its legal in my book.

[Nobody]

If you changed the 6 210mm casemate mounts to 8 105mm casemate mounts or better yet 6 150/155mm casemate mounts it might be better.  Put extra composite strength into belt armor (main and/or end).

Not what you requested but much more fun:
K8000d, German Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8.000 t light; 8.459 t standard; 9.235 t normal; 9.856 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (419,95 ft / 413,39 ft) x 59,06 ft x (24,93 / 26,23 ft)
   (128,00 m / 126,00 m) x 18,00 m  x (7,60 / 8,00 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      4 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 88,18lbs / 40,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm 40,0 cal guns - 37,48lbs / 17,00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,97lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1.500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4.466 lbs / 2.026 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,09" / 180 mm   305,12 ft / 93,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Ends:   3,54" / 90 mm   108,27 ft / 33,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   275,59 ft / 84,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 114% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8,66" / 220 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   7,87" / 200 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,09" / 180 mm
   3rd:   5,91" / 150 mm   2,36" / 60 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   4th:   1,18" / 30 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 15.062 ihp / 11.236 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 5.880nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.397 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   470 - 612

Cost:
   £0,863 million / $3,454 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 784 tons, 8,5%
      - Guns: 784 tons, 8,5%
   Armour: 2.603 tons, 28,2%
      - Belts: 1.332 tons, 14,4%
      - Armament: 753 tons, 8,2%
      - Armour Deck: 425 tons, 4,6%
      - Conning Towers: 93 tons, 1,0%
   Machinery: 2.353 tons, 25,5%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.225 tons, 24,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.235 tons, 13,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0,4%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.891 lbs / 3.579 Kg = 27,9 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,36
   Metacentric height 3,9 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 12,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,59

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,531 / 0,539
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,33 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  18,31 ft / 5,58 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00%,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00%,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:      14,75 ft / 4,49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97,4%
   Waterplane Area: 16.737 Square feet or 1.555 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 498 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,92
      - Longitudinal: 2,08
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

(I had idea, because the deck guns on German AC's were often called casemate guns as well - although they appear to be single turrets)

[KWorld]

I'm fairly sure there's a severe case of NEDS here...

[Nobody]

I'm fairly sure there's a severe case of NEDS here...

I was about to ask why, but... I see it. I forgot to put the 15cm were they belong, below the main turrets:
K8000d, German Export Armored Cruiser laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8.000 t light; 8.459 t standard; 9.235 t normal; 9.856 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (419,95 ft / 413,39 ft) x 59,06 ft x (24,93 / 26,23 ft)
   (128,00 m / 126,00 m) x 18,00 m  x (7,60 / 8,00 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 8,27" / 210 mm 40,0 cal guns - 238,10lbs / 108,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      4 - 5,91" / 150 mm 40,0 cal guns - 88,18lbs / 40,00kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 4,13" / 105 mm 40,0 cal guns - 37,48lbs / 17,00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm 20,0 cal guns - 0,97lbs / 0,44kg shells, 1.500 per gun
     Auto rapid fire guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4.466 lbs / 2.026 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7,09" / 180 mm   305,12 ft / 93,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Ends:   3,94" / 100 mm   108,27 ft / 33,00 m   9,22 ft / 2,81 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   275,59 ft / 84,00 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 114% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8,66" / 220 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   7,87" / 200 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      7,09" / 180 mm
   3rd:   5,91" / 150 mm   2,36" / 60 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   4th:   1,18" / 30 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 15.062 ihp / 11.236 Kw = 20,00 kts
   Range 5.880nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.397 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   470 - 612

Cost:
   £0,863 million / $3,454 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 784 tons, 8,5%
      - Guns: 784 tons, 8,5%
   Armour: 2.616 tons, 28,3%
      - Belts: 1.347 tons, 14,6%
      - Armament: 751 tons, 8,1%
      - Armour Deck: 425 tons, 4,6%
      - Conning Towers: 93 tons, 1,0%
   Machinery: 2.353 tons, 25,5%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.212 tons, 24,0%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.235 tons, 13,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0,4%
      - Hull below water: 5 tons
      - Hull above water: 5 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7.958 lbs / 3.610 Kg = 28,2 x 8,3 " / 210 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
   Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 12,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,51
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,60

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,531 / 0,539
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,33 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3,28 ft / -1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00%,  18,31 ft / 5,58 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00%,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00%,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,00%,  14,24 ft / 4,34 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:      14,75 ft / 4,49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97,4%
   Waterplane Area: 16.737 Square feet or 1.555 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 496 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,92
      - Longitudinal: 2,08
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Better?

[Darman]

Here's a tough question now... because I'd prefer to have the country who's design I'm using build the ship... Who is going to have BP for sale and the slips available in HY1-1901?