Trans-Siberian Railway Construction

Started by Delta Force, January 20, 2013, 12:39:46 AM

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Delta Force

How will the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway be handled in game? Should I dedicate some resources to the project or is its construction handled through roleplaying?

Tanthalas

there is a costing for rail roads in the rules somewhere... I cant remember offhand but I think it cost so much per mile for standard gauge tracks (bp and cash if I remember right)
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Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Darman

There is a cost.  I can't remember if its still in the current rules or just the old rules.  and I'm not even positive it was in the rules per se or just one of the development of economies discussions from N3. 

Nobody

There used to be special railway cost. But I'm pretty sure they were pre-N3 and I doubt we still have these passages.

I would say, that it is enough if you call every other IC a part of the transsib and write about it. And keep in mind how long it took to build it.

Tanthalas

Yall could definetly be right, im fairly sure it was still in for N3 though, as my old N3 spreadsheat had a section for Railway construction costs, however if I remember right from my trans Australian railroad (yes I built such a thing or atleast started it) it was horibly expensive.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Darman


Delta Force

Will Russia gain economic benefits in game for developing the Trans-Siberian Railway, Manchurian Railway, and developing Port Arthur? I'm trying to decide between building more naval infrastructure and warships or developing the Far East.

Darman

Russia should definitely gain some economic benefits.  If nothing else increased economic activity in the affected regions would increase tax revenues. 

snip

We will have to talk about economic benifits in the mod-cave. The military benifits are quite obvious
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Darman

Quote from: snip on March 27, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
The military benifits are quite obvious

And will never be important...

Walter

Would it work to make the railroad a territory and assign ICs to it? If it does, then perhaps the same can be done with the Nicaragua canal. This way you can keep it simple and use existing rules to solve how much revenue one would get from such a project.

KWorld

Quote from: Walter on March 28, 2013, 08:03:48 AM
Would it work to make the railroad a territory and assign ICs to it? If it does, then perhaps the same can be done with the Nicaragua canal. This way you can keep it simple and use existing rules to solve how much revenue one would get from such a project.

I can see that working for Russia, since the eastern railroads are, like the US transcontinental railroads, what are going to open up those areas to sustained economic advancement, more than fur trapping and trading and small-scale prospecting for gold.


I'm puzzled why the military benefits to the Trans-Siberian Railroad would never be realized, though.  Is the Japanese expectation that the Russians will be pushed back to the Urals before it's complete?  Or what?

Darman

Quote from: KWorld on April 02, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
I'm puzzled why the military benefits to the Trans-Siberian Railroad would never be realized, though.  Is the Japanese expectation that the Russians will be pushed back to the Urals before it's complete?  Or what?

This peace-loving nation would never dream of such an occurrence!  The Japanese people wish for world peace, and greatly desire that the military benefits of the Transsiberian Railroad will never be realized because there will never be any more wars. 

Delta Force

Quote from: KWorld on April 02, 2013, 09:56:54 AMI'm puzzled why the military benefits to the Trans-Siberian Railroad would never be realized, though.  Is the Japanese expectation that the Russians will be pushed back to the Urals before it's complete?  Or what?

I think the British Empire itself would save Russia at that point. With Lake Baikal as Russia's Eastern boundary the only places left to expand are the Ottoman Empire and Central Asia. It may even lead to an alliance between Germany and Russia, as the Franco-Russian alliance doesn't exist in this timeline and Germany and Russia have better relations tan historically. Even more power could be directed South, further inflaming tensions in the Balkans and Central Asia. We could certainly see a very interesting alliance system develop due to a Russo-Japanese War in this timeline.

KWorld