Possible ships of the USN - post 1899

[Tanthalas]

Hey thats my trick... *hides the fact that he is updating all his slips and docks*

Heh, the way I'll probably optimize those is to enlarge most or all of the S0s to S1s.  :)  That way they'll be useful for later, larger DDs, which 70m S0s aren't.

[KWorld]

USS Adder, United States Submarine laid down 1900

Displacement:
   100 t light; 102 t standard; 107 t normal; 111 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (66.00 ft / 66.00 ft) x 12.00 ft x (9.00 / 9.25 ft)
   (20.12 m / 20.12 m) x 3.66 m  x (2.74 / 2.82 m)

Machinery:
   Petrol Internal combustion generators plus batteries,  plus batteries,
   Electric motors, 1 shaft, 158 shp / 118 Kw = 10.50 kts
   Range 1,200nm at 6.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8 tons

Complement:
   16 - 21

Cost:
   £0.009 million / $0.034 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 36 tons, 33.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 33 tons, 31.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7 tons, 6.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 28.1 %
      - Hull below water: 30 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     23 lbs / 10 Kg = 0.2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 0.3 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 9.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 1 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.529
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 8.12 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Average freeboard:      0.10 ft / 0.03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 161.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 0.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 521 Square feet or 48 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 38 lbs/sq ft or 186 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 2.15
      - Longitudinal: 5.03
      - Overall: 2.34
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

28 tons of below-water miscellaneous weight is ballast tankage.

2 tons of below-water miscellaneous weight support 1 bow 18" short torpedo tube, with 2 reload torpedoes.

[KWorld]

A later, but still mostly experimental, submarine.

USS Copperhead, United States Submarine laid down 1903 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   200 t light; 205 t standard; 214 t normal; 221 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (105.00 ft / 105.00 ft) x 15.00 ft x (10.00 / 10.25 ft)
   (32.00 m / 32.00 m) x 4.57 m  x (3.05 / 3.12 m)

Armament:
      1 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 23.0 cal gun - 13.01lbs / 5.90kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1903 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 13 lbs / 6 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Petrol Internal combustion generators plus batteries,  plus batteries,
   Electric motors, 1 shaft, 192 shp / 144 Kw = 10.50 kts
   Range 1,500nm at 6.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 16 tons

Complement:
   27 - 36

Cost:
   £0.013 million / $0.054 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.6 %
      - Guns: 1 tons, 0.6 %
   Armour: 1 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armament: 1 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 44 tons, 20.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 79 tons, 36.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 14 tons, 6.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 75 tons, 35.1 %
      - Hull below water: 65 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     112 lbs / 51 Kg = 8.3 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
   Roll period: 10.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 2 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.475 / 0.479
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 10.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m,  0.10 ft / 0.03 m
      - Average freeboard:      0.10 ft / 0.03 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 0.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 982 Square feet or 91 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 128 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 50 lbs/sq ft or 246 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 2.37
      - Longitudinal: 2.91
      - Overall: 2.42
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

60 tons of below-water miscellaneous weight is ballast tankage.

5 tons of below-water miscellaneous weight supports 2 18" short torpedo tubes and 6 reload torpedoes.

On-deck miscellaneous weight supports a short-range wireless set.

[KWorld]

A possible future light cruiser of the USN.

USS Omaha, United States Light Cruiser laid down 1907 (Engine 1910)

Displacement:
   3,726 t light; 3,915 t standard; 4,387 t normal; 4,764 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (420.00 ft / 420.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (16.75 / 17.81 ft)
   (128.02 m / 128.02 m) x 13.72 m  x (5.11 / 5.43 m)

Armament:
      5 - 7.00" / 178 mm 45.0 cal guns - 164.99lbs / 74.84kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1907 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1907 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,023 lbs / 464 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   306.60 ft / 93.45 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 29,467 shp / 21,983 Kw = 27.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 849 tons

Complement:
   269 - 350

Cost:
   £0.393 million / $1.573 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 268 tons, 6.1 %
      - Guns: 268 tons, 6.1 %
   Armour: 651 tons, 14.8 %
      - Belts: 298 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armament: 41 tons, 0.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 290 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 23 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1,218 tons, 27.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,545 tons, 35.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 661 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 44 tons, 1.0 %
      - Hull above water: 11 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 8 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,257 lbs / 1,931 Kg = 24.8 x 7.0 " / 178 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.485 / 0.495
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  17.25 ft / 5.26 m
      - Forward deck:   35.00 %,  17.25 ft / 5.26 m,  14.75 ft / 4.50 m
      - Aft deck:   38.00 %,  14.75 ft / 4.50 m,  14.75 ft / 4.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   12.00 %,  14.75 ft / 4.50 m,  14.75 ft / 4.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.79 ft / 4.81 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 132.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,424 Square feet or 1,154 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 392 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.93
      - Overall: 1.02
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

On deck miscellaneous weight provides for 2 twin side-rotatable 18" wet heater torpedo tubes.

Above-water miscellaneous weight provides for 8 reload 18" wet heater torpedoes.

Above-deck miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.

[KWorld]

USS Provo, United States Cruiser laid down 1904 (Engine 1903)

Displacement:
   4,610 t light; 4,811 t standard; 5,533 t normal; 6,110 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (425.00 ft / 425.00 ft) x 45.00 ft x (20.25 / 21.84 ft)
   (129.54 m / 129.54 m) x 13.72 m  x (6.17 / 6.66 m)

Armament:
      5 - 7.00" / 178 mm 45.0 cal guns - 164.99lbs / 74.84kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      1 raised mount aft - superfiring
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,023 lbs / 464 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   425.00 ft / 129.54 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.25" / 32 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18,053 shp / 13,467 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,299 tons (80% coal)

Complement:
   319 - 416

Cost:
   £0.563 million / $2.253 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 263 tons, 4.7 %
      - Guns: 263 tons, 4.7 %
   Armour: 647 tons, 11.7 %
      - Belts: 283 tons, 5.1 %
      - Armament: 40 tons, 0.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 297 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 27 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 2,212 tons, 40.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,450 tons, 26.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 923 tons, 16.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 0.7 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,565 lbs / 1,164 Kg = 15.0 x 7.0 " / 178 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 12.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.512
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  15.50 ft / 4.72 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   35.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.54 ft / 3.52 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 85.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,743 Square feet or 1,184 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 77 lbs/sq ft or 375 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.01
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 18" 5m side mounted submerged torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.

[eltf177]

USS Provo, United States Cruiser laid down 1904 (Engine 1903)

Armament:
      5 - 7.00" / 178 mm 45.0 cal guns - 164.99lbs / 74.84kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1904 Model
     5 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft

Seems to be a problem here...

[KWorld]

USS Provo, United States Cruiser laid down 1904 (Engine 1903)

Armament:
      5 - 7.00" / 178 mm 45.0 cal guns - 164.99lbs / 74.84kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1904 Model
     5 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft

Seems to be a problem here...

Whoops!  You are correct, sir!  Updated.

[Jefgte]

You'll have turbines in 1904...
1904 is probably the first year to SS with turbines.

Jef

[snip]

You'll have turbines in 1904...
1904 is probably the first year to SS with turbines.

Jef

First year assuming you get a lucky roll, 1905 would be the "safe" bet.

[KWorld]

A possible future capital ship of the USN.


USS California, United States Battleship laid down 1909 (Engine 1910)

Displacement:
   24,131 t light; 25,635 t standard; 26,743 t normal; 27,629 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (602.01 ft / 600.00 ft) x 100.00 ft x (26.00 / 26.71 ft)
   (183.49 m / 182.88 m) x 30.48 m  x (7.92 / 8.14 m)

Armament:
      10 - 14.00" / 356 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1,400.00lbs / 635.03kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
     5 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.00lbs / 47.63kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1909 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1909 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 15,656 lbs / 7,101 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   390.00 ft / 118.87 m   17.00 ft / 5.18 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   209.98 ft / 64.00 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      2.00" / 51 mm   390.00 ft / 118.87 m   23.82 ft / 7.26 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 70.00 ft / 21.34 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm         -         5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Hydraulic drive, 4 shafts, 32,938 shp / 24,572 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 6,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,994 tons

Complement:
   1,045 - 1,359

Cost:
   £2.419 million / $9.678 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,658 tons, 9.9 %
      - Guns: 2,658 tons, 9.9 %
   Armour: 10,074 tons, 37.7 %
      - Belts: 4,566 tons, 17.1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 687 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armament: 2,837 tons, 10.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,637 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Towers: 347 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 1,361 tons, 5.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,001 tons, 37.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,612 tons, 9.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 0.1 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     39,395 lbs / 17,869 Kg = 28.7 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 7.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 6.3 ft / 1.9 m
   Roll period: 16.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.64
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.37 ft / 5.29 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 43,883 Square feet or 4,077 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 194 lbs/sq ft or 946 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.28
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight allows for 4 broadside 18" 5m wet-heater torpedo tubes with 12 reloads.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.


Turrets are laid out as ABs XYsZ (X turret faces forward, with it's back to Y).

[Tanthalas]

Thinking about kicking off the standards a few years early? Supose that means that USS Wyoming will be a "Standard" instead of the turret farm arangement of OTL =P (since she layed down in 1910 OTL)

[KWorld]

Haven't decided whether there'll BE Standards in Navalism, yet.  :)

[Tanthalas]

I just would like to see us try to avoid the Gun Creap that happend in N3... was realy annoying to have to laydown 14" ships in 1909 when some of the greatest ships ever built were being layed down with 12/50s OTL (it led to me building several ships I realy didnt like just to keep up).

Haven't decided whether there'll BE Standards in Navalism, yet.  :)

[KWorld]

I don't know that you'll really be able to avoid it, especially given the over-armoring that's very tempting to do.  Given that the 12"/50 and the 14"/45 techs become available at the same time, you'd need to have a reason to develop the 12"/50 (the US might want to use it as a BC gun, instead of the heavier 14"/45, for instance).

I just would like to see us try to avoid the Gun Creap that happend in N3... was realy annoying to have to laydown 14" ships in 1909 when some of the greatest ships ever built were being layed down with 12/50s OTL (it led to me building several ships I realy didnt like just to keep up).

Haven't decided whether there'll BE Standards in Navalism, yet.  :)

[Tanthalas]

Oh I agree, its an issue.  OTL the German 12/50 and British 13.5/45 (Course the first units using it wernt layed down till 1910) were aproximatly equal however the US 14/45 was a Superior gun to both (but its first units wern't layed down till 1911 if I remember right).  In the Nverse we end up with people using them on ships with 1909 laydowns becasue frankley well they can... hence Gun Creap, I dont honestly know the answer I do know part of the problem is SHP restrictions but honestly we need them (much as I hate to admit that).  I do wish I could figure it out though casue I realy like 12" guns  ;)

I don't know that you'll really be able to avoid it, especially given the over-armoring that's very tempting to do.  Given that the 12"/50 and the 14"/45 techs become available at the same time, you'd need to have a reason to develop the 12"/50 (the US might want to use it as a BC gun, instead of the heavier 14"/45, for instance).

I just would like to see us try to avoid the Gun Creap that happend in N3... was realy annoying to have to laydown 14" ships in 1909 when some of the greatest ships ever built were being layed down with 12/50s OTL (it led to me building several ships I realy didnt like just to keep up).

Haven't decided whether there'll BE Standards in Navalism, yet.  :)