Post Startup Ships of the Regia Marina Italiana (1900-19XX)

[Tanthalas]

and my latest wild hair... opinions welcome but it wont fit isnt an opinion (im using the layout of the OTL Regina Elenas sans super fire cause I dont think its legal yet)

Lombardia, Italia Battleship laid down 1900

Displacement:
   13,500 t light; 14,154 t standard; 15,096 t normal; 15,850 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (474.00 ft / 474.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.60 / 28.69 ft)
   (144.48 m / 144.48 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.41 / 8.74 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 250.00lbs / 113.40kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 6,464 lbs / 2,932 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   335.00 ft / 102.11 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   139.00 ft / 42.37 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   320.00 ft / 97.54 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   8.00" / 203 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.00" / 279 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,000 ihp / 16,412 Kw = 20.56 kts
   Range 5,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,696 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   680 - 885

Cost:
   £1.535 million / $6.141 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,329 tons, 8.8 %
      - Guns: 1,329 tons, 8.8 %
   Armour: 4,292 tons, 28.4 %
      - Belts: 2,210 tons, 14.6 %
      - Armament: 1,131 tons, 7.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 806 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 145 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 3,438 tons, 22.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,407 tons, 29.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,596 tons, 10.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 34 tons, 0.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 34 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,315 lbs / 5,132 Kg = 17.0 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.34

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.553 / 0.559
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.49 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   19.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   32.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.64 ft / 4.77 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,221 Square feet or 2,250 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 686 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.77
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

34 tons Misc. Weight
25 tons long range wireless set
  6 tons Improved Crew mess facilities
  3 tons improvements to the Capitans quarters and mess facilities

[Tanthalas]

Latest Insanity from the RM, on which I can count without trying atleast 2 rules violations... which I am posting anyway because I have been told so long as I do it this way it is legal (or atleast Legalish).


Emilia-Romagna, Italia Battleship laid down 1900

Displacement:
   13,500 t light; 14,097 t standard; 15,037 t normal; 15,789 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (474.00 ft / 474.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.60 / 28.69 ft)
   (144.48 m / 144.48 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.41 / 8.74 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 250.00lbs / 113.40kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      1 raised mount - superfiring
     1 x Twin mount on centreline forward
      1 double raised mount
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,464 lbs / 2,478 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   319.00 ft / 97.23 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   155.00 ft / 47.24 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   322.00 ft / 98.15 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   8.00" / 203 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.00" / 279 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,000 ihp / 16,412 Kw = 20.57 kts
   Range 5,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,692 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   678 - 882

Cost:
   £1.438 million / $5.753 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,068 tons, 7.1 %
      - Guns: 1,068 tons, 7.1 %
   Armour: 4,296 tons, 28.6 %
      - Belts: 2,319 tons, 15.4 %
      - Armament: 674 tons, 4.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,159 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 144 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 3,438 tons, 22.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,510 tons, 30.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,537 tons, 10.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 189 tons, 1.3 %
      - On freeboard deck: 189 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,432 lbs / 5,639 Kg = 18.7 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.36

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.551 / 0.557
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.49 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   19.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   32.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.64 ft / 4.77 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,173 Square feet or 2,246 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 139 lbs/sq ft or 681 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.82
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

189 tons misc Weight
  25 tons Long range Wireless
  25 tons secondary Long range Wireless
  24 tons Improvements to Capitans Quarters and Mess Facilities
  35 tons Flag Facilities
  70 tons Improvements to Crew Berthing and Mess Facilities
  10 tons Experimental equipment

[The Rock Doctor]

Explain the layout...?

[Tanthalas]

OK the 11" turret in A posistion is technicly raised but considerd Deck level, then there is an 8" twin behind and above it in the B posistion, then an 8" twin raised in the X posistion over a 11" twin in the Y posistion with a pair of 8" twins one on each wing. I actualy just caught a mistake but it shouldnt matter to the weights (X is listed as a wing turret)

it should look somthing like this B, P, Q, and X are all 8" twins while A, and Y are 11" twins
     p
aB   Xy
     q

Explain the layout...?

[snip]

ok....dont think that is legal.

EDIT: Tho the 8" guns not being in turrets makes it discussable. What do others think?

[Nobody]

I don't think superfiring turrets should(/are) be allowed yet, except in special cases (e.g. because the forward hull is a deck higher). Also, anything that's not inside a turret should single only, shouldn't it?

[Tanthalas]

which was the violation I was openly refering to (the twin mount and hoist when they are suposed to be singles only)... I can give a few examples of secondaries that are blatently and obviously raised but that wasnt my point...

I don't think superfiring turrets should(/are) be allowed yet, except in special cases (e.g. because the forward hull is a deck higher). Also, anything that's not inside a turret should single only, shouldn't it?

[Tanthalas]

and now for a horse of a totaly diferent Color... for our time frame it would be realy realy WIERD, but as far as I can tell totaly legal (which gives it atleast an even chance of seeing production).

BB-7 RMS Emilia-Romagna, Italia Battleship laid down 1900

Displacement:
   13,500 t light; 14,125 t standard; 15,066 t normal; 15,819 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (474.00 ft / 474.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.60 / 28.69 ft)
   (144.48 m / 144.48 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.41 / 8.74 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck forward
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      10 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 250.00lbs / 113.40kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck forward
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,964 lbs / 2,705 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   327.00 ft / 99.67 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   147.00 ft / 44.81 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   322.00 ft / 98.15 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   8.00" / 203 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.00" / 279 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,009 ihp / 16,419 Kw = 20.57 kts
   Range 5,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,694 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   679 - 883

Cost:
   £1.487 million / $5.948 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,214 tons, 8.1 %
      - Guns: 1,214 tons, 8.1 %
   Armour: 4,506 tons, 29.9 %
      - Belts: 2,198 tons, 14.6 %
      - Armament: 1,003 tons, 6.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,160 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 145 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 3,439 tons, 22.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,255 tons, 28.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,566 tons, 10.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 86 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 86 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,676 lbs / 5,750 Kg = 19.0 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.552 / 0.558
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.49 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   19.00 %,  20.00 ft / 6.10 m,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Aft deck:   32.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.32 ft / 4.97 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,197 Square feet or 2,248 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 134 lbs/sq ft or 653 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.92
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

86 tons Misc weight
25 tons long range wireless
25 tons reserve long range wierless
20 tons improvements to crew messing and Berthing
10 tons Flag Facilities
  6 tons improvements to Capitans quarters

[Tanthalas]

As you all know im kind of down on AQY at the moment since so many people have chosen to go that route (seriously it was my intended path but just to many out there atm).  So I had this wild idea today, Opinions are most definetly welcome (seriously I think its legal and everything fits sort of).  Honestly this ship has kind of caught my eye so I may be building them baring any major complaints.

BB-7 Emilia-Romagna (Cuniberti), Italia Battleship laid down 1900

Displacement:
   13,500 t light; 14,013 t standard; 14,013 t normal; 14,013 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (555.00 ft / 555.00 ft) x 68.00 ft x (23.00 / 23.00 ft)
   (169.16 m / 169.16 m) x 20.73 m  x (7.01 / 7.01 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,864 lbs / 1,753 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   420.00 ft / 128.02 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   135.00 ft / 41.15 m   9.90 ft / 3.02 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   388.50 ft / 118.41 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 116 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.00" / 127 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26,000 ihp / 19,396 Kw = 22.06 kts
   Range 0nm at 0.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   643 - 837

Cost:
   £1.373 million / $5.493 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 845 tons, 6.0 %
      - Guns: 845 tons, 6.0 %
   Armour: 3,871 tons, 27.6 %
      - Belts: 1,960 tons, 14.0 %
      - Armament: 507 tons, 3.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,341 tons, 9.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 4,063 tons, 29.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,620 tons, 33.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 513 tons, 3.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 102 tons, 0.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 102 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,165 lbs / 5,972 Kg = 19.8 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
   Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 13.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.88

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.565 / 0.565
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.16 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 40
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:      21.65 ft / 6.60 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 26,712 Square feet or 2,482 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 591 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.68
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

102 tons Misc Weight
25 tons long range Wireless
25 tons Reserve long range Wireless
30 tons Improvements to Crew Facilities
10 tons Flag Facilities
  6 tons Improvements to Officer Facilities
  6 tons Improvements to Capitans Quarters

[KWorld]

1 HUGE problem:

> Machinery:
>    Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
>    Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26,000 ihp / 19,396 Kw = 22.06 kts
>    Range 0nm at 0.00 kts
>    Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

[KWorld]

1 HUGE problem:

> Machinery:
>    Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
>    Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26,000 ihp / 19,396 Kw = 22.06 kts
>    Range 0nm at 0.00 kts
>    Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

Other than that, I'm not sure about the 6"/4.7" combination, they're pretty close in size, so do you need both?  Armor is solid for a BC, which is what this effectively is (BB armament, AC speed), except maybe on the quarterdeck and conning tower.  Seaboat rating is VERY high.

[eltf177]

1 HUGE problem:

> Machinery:
>    Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
>    Direct drive, 2 shafts, 26,000 ihp / 19,396 Kw = 22.06 kts
>    Range 0nm at 0.00 kts
>    Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons (100% coal)

Other than that, I'm not sure about the 6"/4.7" combination, they're pretty close in size, so do you need both?  Armor is solid for a BC, which is what this effectively is (BB armament, AC speed), except maybe on the quarterdeck and conning tower.  Seaboat rating is VERY high.

The IJN used that very combination on the Tsukuba-class BC/AC's. I too thought it odd. I soon realized the 6-inch guns have punch but a low ROF, the 4.7-inch not so much punch but a higher ROF. So use the 6-inchers on enemy BB's and CR's and the 4.7's on enemy DD's and TB's.

[KWorld]

The problem with that is that the 6" gun doesn't have ENOUGH punch to be very useful against BBs or ACs, most anything on those ships that the 6" can hurt, a 4.7" can too.  Against lighter cruisers, the 6" does have some advantages, granted.

[Tanthalas]

*grumbles* what the hell happend to my bunker... well it was 5500@10 (my normal) and well thats easy enough to fix, the secondary and tritery batteries are kinda closeish in size (somthing I have thought about also) honestly im tempted to go all 4.7s on it but I felt it was a bit early to make that jump.

[KWorld]

I'd suggest 4.7"s and perhaps 3"/12 pounders or 65mm/9 pounders.  You're in serious TB territory, having plenty of lightweight, high ROF guns makes sense to me (and period TBs are small, so the small guns will actually do fairly serious damage to them).