Post Startup Ships of the Regia Marina Italiana (1900-19XX)

Started by Tanthalas, October 10, 2012, 02:15:10 PM

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Jefgte

Correct 9000t cruiser.
Have a 120m lenght could be useful.

BCs 0.435 & 0.498 are low.

Jef
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Tanthalas

the BC on both is meh... as to the size, belive it or not they are direct copies of OTL ships (well more or less Direct Copies)

The AC is a Clone of the OTL Roon Class (German AC) http://www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?language=E&period=&idtrida=1983

and the PC is a more or less Direct Copy of the OTL British Chalanger class http://www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?language=E&period=&idtrida=2168
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Jefgte

clone...

That could be too, German / Tan mixture.

Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Tanthalas

the Prolification of battleships capable of 20+ knots has led the RM to request a new class of battleship

Ego ex bona nomina, Italia Battleship laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   18,500 t light; 19,340 t standard; 20,565 t normal; 21,545 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (557.00 ft / 557.00 ft) x 86.30 ft x (30.00 / 31.07 ft)
   (169.77 m / 169.77 m) x 26.30 m  x (9.14 / 9.47 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 9.20" / 234 mm 45.0 cal guns - 380.00lbs / 172.37kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     1 x Twin mount on sides, forward deck aft
     1 x Twin mount on sides, aft deck forward
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 5,140 lbs / 2,331 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   364.00 ft / 110.95 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   193.00 ft / 58.83 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   364.00 ft / 110.95 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 279 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   9.00" / 229 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   4th:   3.00" / 76 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.00" / 279 mm, Aft 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 32,335 ihp / 24,122 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 5,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,205 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   858 - 1,116

Cost:
   £1.802 million / $7.208 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 999 tons, 4.9 %
      - Guns: 999 tons, 4.9 %
   Armour: 6,307 tons, 30.7 %
      - Belts: 3,359 tons, 16.3 %
      - Armament: 1,073 tons, 5.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,568 tons, 7.6 %
      - Conning Towers: 307 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 5,052 tons, 24.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,900 tons, 28.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,065 tons, 10.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 242 tons, 1.2 %
      - On freeboard deck: 242 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     20,264 lbs / 9,192 Kg = 30.4 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
   Metacentric height 6.9 ft / 2.1 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.59

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.499 / 0.505
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.45 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.60 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.60 ft / 5.36 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 31,998 Square feet or 2,973 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 137 lbs/sq ft or 669 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.62
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

*Whistles Inocently*  It's technicly legal I think...

BB-7 Emilia-Romagna, Italia Battleship laid down 1900

Displacement:
   13,500 t light; 14,169 t standard; 15,112 t normal; 15,866 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (480.00 ft / 474.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.60 / 28.69 ft)
   (146.30 m / 144.48 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.41 / 8.74 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      1 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal gun - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck and hoist mount, 1900 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      1 raised mount
      Weight of broadside 7,510 lbs / 3,406 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   336.00 ft / 102.41 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   138.00 ft / 42.06 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   322.00 ft / 98.15 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   13.0" / 330 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   5th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.00" / 279 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,000 ihp / 16,412 Kw = 20.55 kts
   Range 5,200nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,697 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   680 - 885

Cost:
   £1.500 million / $6.001 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,175 tons, 7.8 %
      - Guns: 1,175 tons, 7.8 %
   Armour: 4,579 tons, 30.3 %
      - Belts: 2,461 tons, 16.3 %
      - Armament: 892 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,081 tons, 7.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 145 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 3,437 tons, 22.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,188 tons, 27.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,612 tons, 10.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 121 tons, 0.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 121 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,294 lbs / 5,577 Kg = 18.5 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 14.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.554 / 0.559
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.49 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17.53 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   19.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  17.20 ft / 5.24 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  17.20 ft / 5.24 m,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m
      - Aft deck:   32.00 %,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.87 ft / 4.53 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,235 Square feet or 2,251 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 646 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.79
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

122 tons misc weight for whatever I decide I want
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

KWorld

It's got an error in it:

>  4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
>     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
>     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread

Other than that, I doubt that 11" casemate mounts would work w ell at all, and I've doubts that, after you take off for the 3 twin turrets and the 11" casemates that you're going to have much of any room for the 4.7" casemate guns.

Tanthalas

Just forgot to change em when I deleated the 9.2" twins they replace.  and actualy I have quite a bit of space from deleating the pair of 9.2" twins off each side.  the error actualy costs me more weight LOL, but as to the functionality IDK either, I know that OTL Cuniberti proposed more or less the same one for his "Ideal Battleship" just using wing turrets instead of an X...

Quote from: KWorld on February 24, 2013, 03:30:44 PM
It's got an error in it:

>  4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
>     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
>     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread

Other than that, I doubt that 11" casemate mounts would work w ell at all, and I've doubts that, after you take off for the 3 twin turrets and the 11" casemates that you're going to have much of any room for the 4.7" casemate guns.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

well since we do have a few people posting post dreadnaught ships I thought I would go ahead and throw this girl out and see what yall think of her.  Honestly its proly as close to a battlecruiser as ill ever build in the Dreadnaught era (or looked at another way its what ill build cause my "battleships" will realy be battlecruisers) it assumes ill have alot of techs available on the first turn that I could but meh I can always bump it back a year if I have to.

So with Great fanfare I present to you the Ultio class Armored Cruiser in all its totaly underarmored glory, but it is FAST and has a broadside that would require sending real battleships against it (Yes its based on what you think it is).

Ultio (Revenge), Italia Armored Cruiser laid down 1908

Displacement:
   11,000 t light; 11,494 t standard; 12,612 t normal; 13,507 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (595.00 ft / 595.00 ft) x 69.63 ft x (20.00 / 21.10 ft)
   (181.36 m / 181.36 m) x 21.22 m  x (6.10 / 6.43 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model
     2 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1908 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,496 lbs / 2,039 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   409.00 ft / 124.66 m   10.01 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   186.00 ft / 56.69 m   10.01 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      3.00" / 76 mm
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 58,000 shp / 43,268 Kw = 27.85 kts
   Range 9,680nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,013 tons

Complement:
   594 - 773

Cost:
   £1.221 million / $4.885 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 874 tons, 6.9 %
      - Guns: 874 tons, 6.9 %
   Armour: 2,136 tons, 16.9 %
      - Belts: 815 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armament: 299 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 975 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 47 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,929 tons, 23.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,061 tons, 40.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,612 tons, 12.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,877 lbs / 6,295 Kg = 20.9 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 14.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.71
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.28

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.533 / 0.541
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.55 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.39 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m,  24.00 ft / 7.32 m
      - Aft deck:   38.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Quarter deck:   14.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.84 ft / 6.05 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 28,458 Square feet or 2,644 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 629 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

Just continuing to experiment, the name says all there realy is to know about this ship, but at 24 knots and change it would be among the fastest ships in the world even in the early Dreadnaught/Battlecruiser era.

Niveus-Elephas, Italia Armored Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   20,000 t light; 20,662 t standard; 22,335 t normal; 23,674 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (787.00 ft / 781.00 ft) x 81.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.15 ft)
   (239.88 m / 238.05 m) x 24.69 m  x (8.23 / 8.58 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,464 lbs / 1,571 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 1.613 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   575.00 ft / 175.26 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm   206.00 ft / 62.79 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   535.00 ft / 163.07 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 113 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 44,000 ihp / 32,824 Kw = 24.25 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,012 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   913 - 1,187

Cost:
   £1.973 million / $7.893 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 668 tons, 3.0 %
      - Guns: 666 tons, 3.0 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 4,610 tons, 20.6 %
      - Belts: 2,557 tons, 11.4 %
      - Armament: 554 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,397 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 103 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 6,875 tons, 30.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,781 tons, 34.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,335 tons, 10.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 66 tons, 0.3 %
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 58 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19,316 lbs / 8,762 Kg = 29.0 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 6.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 5.7 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.39

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     an extended bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.458 / 0.465
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.64 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.95 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 34 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.50 ft / 0.76 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  29.50 ft / 8.99 m,  23.50 ft / 7.16 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  23.50 ft / 7.16 m,  22.50 ft / 6.86 m
      - Aft deck:   39.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   13.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.43 ft / 5.92 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 40,608 Square feet or 3,773 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 651 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.06
      - Longitudinal: 0.97
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Torpedos are actualy mounted 2 per side in the hull but above the watterline @ midships.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

KWorld

Quote from: Tanthalas on March 03, 2013, 01:03:05 AM
Just continuing to experiment, the name says all there realy is to know about this ship

Well, yes, yes it does.....  A very fast eggshell armed with a sledge hammer.  :)

Tanthalas

Suprised I only got Comments from Kworld on the name, well I kept playing aorund with the ship last night, and now I feal an odd desire to build it, seriously I know its Horibly flawed but its calling to me with its Siren Song (Proly has somthing to do with the fact its now the only 1.00 acrossed the board ship I have ever designed).  So here it is the still horibly flawed but interestingly perfect version.

Niveus-Elephas, Italia Armored Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   20,000 t light; 20,662 t standard; 22,335 t normal; 23,674 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (787.00 ft / 781.00 ft) x 81.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.15 ft)
   (239.88 m / 238.05 m) x 24.69 m  x (8.23 / 8.58 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,464 lbs / 1,571 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 1.613 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 0.807 t total
   submerged bow tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   575.00 ft / 175.26 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   206.00 ft / 62.79 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   535.00 ft / 163.07 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
     Main Belt covers 113 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 44,000 ihp / 32,824 Kw = 24.25 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,012 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   913 - 1,187

Cost:
   £1.973 million / $7.893 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 670 tons, 3.0 %
      - Guns: 666 tons, 3.0 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 4,751 tons, 21.3 %
      - Belts: 2,697 tons, 12.1 %
      - Armament: 554 tons, 2.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,397 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 103 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 6,875 tons, 30.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,593 tons, 34.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,335 tons, 10.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 112 tons, 0.5 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     20,258 lbs / 9,189 Kg = 30.4 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 6.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.47

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     an extended bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.458 / 0.465
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.64 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.95 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 34 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.50 ft / 0.76 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  29.50 ft / 8.99 m,  23.50 ft / 7.16 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  23.50 ft / 7.16 m,  22.50 ft / 6.86 m
      - Aft deck:   24.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   13.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.70 ft / 6.31 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 112.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 40,610 Square feet or 3,773 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 626 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

112 tons Misc weight
8 tons hull above watterline represents 4 above watterline but below deck torpedo tubes
4 tons below watterline represents 2 Bow tubes
100 tons is stuff I havnt got around to figuring out
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

the name still fits, but its getting ALOT closer to somthing I might consider building.

Niveus-Elephas, Italia Armored Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   18,500 t light; 19,204 t standard; 20,756 t normal; 21,998 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (707.00 ft / 701.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.24 ft)
   (215.49 m / 213.66 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.23 / 8.61 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,796 lbs / 2,175 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 1.613 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 0.807 t total
   submerged bow tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   555.00 ft / 169.16 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   146.00 ft / 44.50 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   535.00 ft / 163.07 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
     Main Belt covers 122 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 42,000 ihp / 31,332 Kw = 24.02 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,794 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   864 - 1,124

Cost:
   £2.002 million / $8.010 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 914 tons, 4.4 %
      - Guns: 910 tons, 4.4 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 4,512 tons, 21.7 %
      - Belts: 2,488 tons, 12.0 %
      - Armament: 725 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,201 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 98 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 6,563 tons, 31.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,390 tons, 30.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,256 tons, 10.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 122 tons, 0.6 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 110 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,175 lbs / 6,429 Kg = 21.3 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.38

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     an extended bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.526 / 0.533
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.50 ft / 0.76 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forward deck:   31.00 %,  22.00 ft / 6.71 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Aft deck:   38.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   13.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      18.71 ft / 5.70 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 121.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 34,910 Square feet or 3,243 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 617 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

122 tons Misc weight
8 tons hull above watterline represents 4 above watterline but below deck torpedo tubes
4 tons below watterline represents 2 Bow tubes
110 tons is stuff I havnt got around to figuring out
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

Just so everyone can see what im talking about with the 1 knot speed for more armor tradeoff.  Version 3

Niveus-Elephas, Italia Armored Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   18,500 t light; 19,204 t standard; 20,756 t normal; 21,998 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (707.00 ft / 701.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.00 / 28.24 ft)
   (215.49 m / 213.66 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.23 / 8.61 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 665.99lbs / 302.09kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,796 lbs / 2,175 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 1.613 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.403 t each, 0.807 t total
   submerged bow tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   488.00 ft / 148.74 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   213.00 ft / 64.92 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   468.00 ft / 142.65 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -
   3rd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 35,853 ihp / 26,746 Kw = 23.00 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,794 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   864 - 1,124

Cost:
   £1.868 million / $7.472 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 914 tons, 4.4 %
      - Guns: 910 tons, 4.4 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 5,479 tons, 26.4 %
      - Belts: 3,312 tons, 16.0 %
      - Armament: 803 tons, 3.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,201 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 163 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 5,602 tons, 27.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,383 tons, 30.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,256 tons, 10.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 123 tons, 0.6 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - Hull above water: 8 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 111 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,837 lbs / 8,091 Kg = 26.8 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 5.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.36

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     an extended bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.526 / 0.533
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7.38 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.50 ft / 0.76 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.00 %,  27.00 ft / 8.23 m,  21.50 ft / 6.55 m
      - Forward deck:   31.00 %,  21.50 ft / 6.55 m,  21.50 ft / 6.55 m
      - Aft deck:   38.00 %,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m
      - Quarter deck:   13.00 %,  14.50 ft / 4.42 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:      18.62 ft / 5.67 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 34,914 Square feet or 3,244 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 617 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

113 tons Misc weight
8 tons hull above watterline represents 4 above watterline but below deck torpedo tubes
4 tons below watterline represents 2 Bow tubes
101 tons is stuff I havnt got around to figuring out
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Tanthalas

Nothing to see here, Move along move along *jedi mind trick* "this is not the ship you are looking for"

White Lion, Italia Armored Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   18,000 t light; 18,646 t standard; 20,077 t normal; 21,222 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (557.00 ft / 557.00 ft) x 79.60 ft x (29.00 / 30.30 ft)
   (169.77 m / 169.77 m) x 24.26 m  x (8.84 / 9.24 m)

Armament:
      6 - 11.00" / 279 mm 45.0 cal guns - 666.00lbs / 302.09kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 45.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 4,796 lbs / 2,175 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   478.00 ft / 145.69 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm     79.00 ft / 24.08 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Upper:   3.00" / 76 mm   378.00 ft / 115.21 m   9.00 ft / 2.74 m
     Main Belt covers 132 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      7.00" / 178 mm
   2nd:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.00" / 229 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 44,944 ihp / 33,528 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,577 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   843 - 1,096

Cost:
   £2.029 million / $8.117 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 861 tons, 4.3 %
      - Guns: 861 tons, 4.3 %
   Armour: 4,715 tons, 23.5 %
      - Belts: 2,955 tons, 14.7 %
      - Armament: 574 tons, 2.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,043 tons, 5.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 143 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 7,023 tons, 35.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,310 tons, 26.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,077 tons, 10.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 91 tons, 0.5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 91 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,658 lbs / 5,288 Kg = 17.5 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
   Metacentric height 6.5 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 13.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.29

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.547 / 0.553
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.60 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.36 ft / 4.99 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 131.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 30,843 Square feet or 2,865 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 616 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.39
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

91 tons misc weight as per normal distribution
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Darman

Looks nice.  She is going to be a pain to take down though.  I might need to think about upgrading Japan's slipways... The secondary armament is a bit light though?  Or did you decide that the 4.7s were good enough and you didn't need anything a little heavier?  Not that anything that would need a heavier secondary is going to be able to keep up with her anyhow...