Croiseurs de 2nd classe - Second class Cruisers

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Cocherel, France PC3 laid down 1897

Cocherel-Orléans  -  Castillon-Formigny

Displacement:
   5 000 t light; 5 221 t standard; 5 963 t normal; 6 556 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.50 ft / 390.50 ft) x 45.92 ft (Bulges 55.77 ft) x (17.36 / 19.02 ft)
   (119.94 m / 119.02 m) x 14.00 m (Bulges 17.00 m)  x (5.29 / 5.80 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.45" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.32lbs / 61.38kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 6.45" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.32lbs / 61.38kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 46.5 cal guns - 8.69lbs / 3.94kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 095 lbs / 497 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 15.8" / 400 mm, 15.66 ft / 4.77 m torpedoes - 0.400 t each, 0.800 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 15.8" / 400 mm, 15.66 ft / 4.77 m torpedoes - 0.400 t each, 0.800 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.20" / 30 mm   390.40 ft / 118.99 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length
   
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   0.77" / 20 mm      1.77" / 45 mm
   2nd:   1.77" / 45 mm         -         1.77" / 45 mm
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.77" / 45 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.95" / 100 mm, Aft 1.20" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 14 380 ihp / 10 727 Kw = 21.01 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 335 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   339 - 441

Cost:
   £0.606 million / $2.424 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 212 tons, 3.6 %
      - Guns: 209 tons, 3.5 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 600 tons, 10.1 %
      - Belts: 126 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armament: 59 tons, 1.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 378 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Towers: 36 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 2 614 tons, 43.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 536 tons, 25.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 962 tons, 16.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 38 tons
                 2 tons for torpedoes
                 6 tons for reload torpedoes
                 30 minens

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 060 lbs / 1 388 Kg = 22.8 x 6.5 " / 164 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.84
   Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 11.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.552 / 0.554
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.76 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  14.45 ft / 4.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.45 ft / 4.40 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.58 ft / 4.14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 154.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 12 538 Square feet or 1 165 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 391 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#1
Carmélia, France CP5 laid down 1899



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Carmélia-Cerres  -  Cantales-Courseau  -  Caliste-Cassandra

Displacement:
   4 500 t light; 4 674 t standard; 5 298 t normal; 5 797 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (391.85 ft / 388.85 ft) x 49.20 ft x (16.86 / 18.13 ft)
   (119.44 m / 118.52 m) x 15.00 m  x (5.14 / 5.53 m)

Armament:
      4 - 6.45" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.32lbs / 61.38kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 46.5 cal guns - 8.69lbs / 3.94kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      2 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 400 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides forward
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 745 lbs / 338 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.550 t each, 1.100 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.550 t each, 1.100 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   367.45 ft / 112.00 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
   Ends:   0.97" / 25 mm     20.00 ft / 6.10 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
     1.40 ft / 0.43 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   0.77" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.60" / 15 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 1.77" / 45 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13 600 ihp / 10 145 Kw = 21.13 kts
   Range 6 500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 123 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   309 - 403

Cost:
   £0.521 million / $2.083 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 164 tons, 3.1 %
      - Guns: 160 tons, 3.0 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 744 tons, 14.0 %
      - Belts: 311 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armament: 56 tons, 1.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 353 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 24 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 2 159 tons, 40.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 403 tons, 26.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 798 tons, 15.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 30 tons
                 2 tons for torpedoes
                 6 tons for reload torpedoes
                 22 minens

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 956 lbs / 1 341 Kg = 22.0 x 6.5 " / 164 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.56
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.90 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.72 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.45 ft / 4.40 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.27 ft / 3.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 669 Square feet or 1 270 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 359 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.25
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#2
Leone, France CP6 laid down 1900

Leone-Laferrière - Leopolda-Lavallée

Displacement:
   5 300 t light; 5 511 t standard; 6 238 t normal; 6 820 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (391.85 ft / 388.85 ft) x 56.42 ft x (17.17 / 18.47 ft)
   (119.44 m / 118.52 m) x 17.20 m  x (5.23 / 5.63 m)

Armament:
      6 - 6.45" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.32lbs / 61.38kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      6 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 46.5 cal guns - 8.69lbs / 3.94kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      2 - 0.30" / 7.6 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 400 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides forward
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 033 lbs / 469 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.570 t each, 1.140 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.570 t each, 1.140 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.95" / 100 mm   354.32 ft / 108.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   0.97" / 25 mm     24.00 ft / 7.32 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
     10.53 ft / 3.21 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 140 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.95" / 100 mm   0.77" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   1.77" / 45 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.97" / 75 mm, Aft 1.77" / 45 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 15 300 ihp / 11 414 Kw = 21.10 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 309 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   350 - 456

Cost:
   £0.608 million / $2.431 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 229 tons, 3.7 %
      - Guns: 225 tons, 3.6 %
      - Weapons: 5 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 986 tons, 15.8 %
      - Belts: 445 tons, 7.1 %
      - Armament: 99 tons, 1.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 407 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Towers: 35 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 2 391 tons, 38.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 635 tons, 26.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 938 tons, 15.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 1.0 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 56 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 841 lbs / 1 742 Kg = 28.6 x 6.5 " / 164 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.64
   Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 10.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.27

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.580 / 0.589
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.89 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.72 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.45 ft / 4.40 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m,  11.82 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.27 ft / 3.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 139.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 15 741 Square feet or 1 462 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 389 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf