Ships of the US Navy

[snip]

I think those are stacked turrets, ala Kersarge. KWorld. if you want your shell weights to sick as whole pounds, for some reason you need to add a .00 onto the end of each one. Otherwise it adds that annoying .01, and yes it bugs me a bit when it does that to my designs.

[KWorld]

I think its too early for secondaries in twins. Except of course for something like a 10" intermediate battery.

These 6" twin secondaries are in stacked turrets, like on USS Kearsarge or USS Virginia.  They're not mounted separately, should have made that clear.

[KWorld]

Here's a version of the same design without the stacked turrets.

USS Minnesota, United States Battleship laid down 1900

Displacement:
   15,913 t light; 16,729 t standard; 18,035 t normal; 19,079 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (600.00 ft / 600.00 ft) x 76.00 ft x (24.50 / 25.63 ft)
   (182.88 m / 182.88 m) x 23.16 m  x (7.47 / 7.81 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 870.00lbs / 394.63kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      16 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.00lbs / 47.63kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.00lbs / 5.90kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,056 lbs / 3,201 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   405.00 ft / 123.44 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm   194.98 ft / 59.43 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   405.00 ft / 123.44 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -         4.00" / 102 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.00" / 229 mm, Aft 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 27,137 ihp / 20,244 Kw = 21.50 kts
   Range 6,250nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,350 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   777 - 1,011

Cost:
   £1.668 million / $6.674 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,167 tons, 6.5 %
      - Guns: 1,167 tons, 6.5 %
   Armour: 5,135 tons, 28.5 %
      - Belts: 2,884 tons, 16.0 %
      - Armament: 824 tons, 4.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,204 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 222 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 4,240 tons, 23.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,334 tons, 29.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,122 tons, 11.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 0.2 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,513 lbs / 7,490 Kg = 19.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.565 / 0.571
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.89 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18.50 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   27.50 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Quarter deck:   14.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.37 ft / 4.38 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 32,275 Square feet or 2,998 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 131 lbs/sq ft or 642 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.02
      - Longitudinal: 0.99
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Below-decks miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 submerged broadside 18" 5m wet heater torpedo tubes and 8 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.

[Jefgte]

A quick design sketch of a heavy armored cruiser/fast battleship to match the French armored cruisers with their 274mm guns.  The USN lacks any guns between the 10"/45 and the 12"/40, so this design carries the 12"/40.

Armament race is expensive with expansion engines ...

I could built a lighter version 8500-9000t with 2T2x274-21kts.
or re SS with 3T2x240mm guns from D'Entrecasteau AC

I dont like to have all eggs in the same basket...

[Tanthalas]

Italia is honestly Snickering at all of them... only a knot faster than my True BBs, not worth it IMHO (actualy if I slashed their armor to the level on these ships I could be a knot faster... yes I experimented with it...)

A quick design sketch of a heavy armored cruiser/fast battleship to match the French armored cruisers with their 274mm guns.  The USN lacks any guns between the 10"/45 and the 12"/40, so this design carries the 12"/40.

Armament race is expensive with expansion engines ...

I could built a lighter version 8500-9000t with 2T2x274-21kts.

I dont like to have all egs in the same basket.

[KWorld]

I'm not thrilled with this idea, at all, having planned on an 18-knot battle line being sufficient until new engine techs come along and become useful.  But that happy world may have been blown up with the stroke of a pen.

[Jefgte]

Build big fast ships is not cool for medium & small countries.
They are out of the game before playing  :'(

Ok France didnt built cruisers with 3T2x274-12400t
I built a mixture of AC3 & AC4 - 12400t/8500t

10450t-2T2x274+164mm guns-21,..kts

[Delta Force]

Build big fast ships is not cool for medium & small countries.
They are out of the game before playing  :'(

Ok France didnt built cruisers with 3T2x274-12400t
I built a mixture of AC3 & AC4 - 12400t/8500t

10450t-2T2x274+164mm guns-21,..kts

You could be Russia, having to defend against two great powers on land and three on the sea, separated by thousands of miles. That's why my armored cruisers are basically fast light battleships. They might not be able to outrun other armored cruisers, but they can certainly put up quite the fight against most ships able to catch them, Italian battleships being about the only warships they are vulnerable to.