Getting rolling

Started by KWorld, September 23, 2012, 07:59:04 AM

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Tanthalas

You can always use a buldge thats what France did in N3 (although personaly I was never very fond of that method) other than that im not aware of a method using Spring Sharp.

Quote from: Delta Force on September 25, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
How do we sim ships with extreme tumblehome like the Borodinos and other Russian warships?
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

KWorld

Yeah, bulging seems the way to do it in SS. 

snip

Just know that a tumblehome would have all of its historical pros and issues, regardless of what the SS report says.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Tanthalas

It was assumed it did in N3, it was left up to the mods to inflict such casulties as were viewd as necessary just like under strength hulls (there were a few carry overs from N2)

Quote from: snip on September 25, 2012, 06:30:30 PM
Just know that a tumblehome would have all of its historical pros and issues, regardless of what the SS report says.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Delta Force

Quote from: snip on September 25, 2012, 06:30:30 PM
Just know that a tumblehome would have all of its historical pros and issues, regardless of what the SS report says.

In other words, the stability and seakeeping advantages of the design last up until the first round hits below the belt. How exactly is that handled in the combat simulations?

snip

As there will be no official simulations, it would be up to individual parties to resolve that issue.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Nobody

Quote from: Delta Force on September 25, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
How do we sim ships with extreme tumblehome like the Borodinos and other Russian warships?
I think you should use one of the new features of SS3 - the "belt incline". In this case with negative values.

KWorld

Quote from: Nobody on September 26, 2012, 01:42:44 AM
Quote from: Delta Force on September 25, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
How do we sim ships with extreme tumblehome like the Borodinos and other Russian warships?
I think you should use one of the new features of SS3 - the "belt incline". In this case with negative values.

That should probably be used in addition to bulging, not in place of it.

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Ok, here is what I need from all players. The National economies are reproduced below. Please use these to make your turn-0 of 5 years (1895-1899) of production. There are a few copies of various spreadsheets floating around, I will ask Nobody to upload his latest in this thread for completeness. By Monday, October 8th I need the following from every player:

1. The distribution of IC and BP throughout the regions of your country. BP values are absolute, but I understand that a small variation in income may happen based on IC distribution. IC distribution will be left up to the players, tho values that the community feels are vastly off will be reviewed.
2. The size of your Army, inclusive of any forts.
3. Your Naval infrastructure.
4. The amount of cash and BP invested in your navy and coastal defenses. These should be as complete as possible with individual designs, tho I understand if there are a few small holes (ie, missing a class of TBs).
5. The naval guns that your nation employs. Try and keep this list small. If it is to large, a cash fine consistent with researching the guns may be leveled.

Players who don't make this deadline will face consequences. When in doubt, look at the N3 rules for guidance. As far as I know, most of the changes we are making do not effect attributes needed for start up. There is one special rule for pre-start ships, engine year=laydown year. There will be no research or economic growth during turn-0. Any questions?


Nation   Income   BP
United Kingdom   315   81
Germany      299.25   68
United States      283.5   65
France      275.625   60
Italy      142.4   23
Russia      160   19
Japan      150   22
Austria-Hungary      128   18
Spain      128   13.5
Netherlands      140   14
Ottomans   96   13.5
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Tanthalas

no questions other than do you want it posted here? or should we each make our own thread.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

snip

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

KWorld

My only question is are the regions defined somewhere, or do we define them?

snip

The homeland and each colony should be its own region.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Tanthalas

Best I can offer you is the Map and the list of nations by population here Wish I had more but thats what I worked up Italia from.

Quote from: KWorld on September 27, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
My only question is are the regions defined somewhere, or do we define them?
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

snip

Go ahead and use the region breakdown that Tan provided.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon