Koninklijke Marine

[Desertfox]

The Dutch historically had close connections with Germany, so KM ships will be based on German ones.

First up a frigate to patrol far off territories. Based on the German Victoria Louise class.


Similar to above pic.

Java, Netherlands Frigate laid down 1895

Displacement:
   5,000 t light; 5,245 t standard; 6,433 t normal; 7,383 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   360.00 ft / 360.00 ft x 57.00 ft x 21.10 ft (normal load)
   109.73 m / 109.73 m x 17.37 m  x 6.43 m

Armament:
      2 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns in single mounts, 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1895 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1895 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1895 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 1,260 lbs / 571 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   3 - 17.7" / 450 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 10,404 ihp / 7,761 Kw = 19.00 kts
   Range 7,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,138 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   358 - 466

Cost:
   £0.554 million / $2.217 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 157 tons, 2.4 %
   Armour: 1,159 tons, 18.0 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 101 tons, 1.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,014 tons, 15.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 44 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 1,763 tons, 27.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,770 tons, 27.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,433 tons, 22.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,091 lbs / 2,309 Kg = 18.0 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.55
   Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 11.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.520
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Mid (50 %):      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Stern:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.40 ft / 3.78 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 88.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,926 Square feet or 1,294 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 85 lbs/sq ft or 417 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.84
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Tanthalas]

*checks his pulse* Yup im still alive... DF im impresed, its slowish and has armor (although with the lack of a belt I assume its a PC) a great departure from what us vets had come to expect from you, and here I am planing to produce a 20+ knot battleship with tinclading (oh how the roles have reversed eh I honestly expected a version of your super cruisers).

[Desertfox]

Don't you worry... They will come in due time. The reason I picked the Dutch is that they require big fast cruisers...

[Tanthalas]

I'll look forward to it, Italia has diferent needs honestly my fast BBs are an extravigance I just fell in love with them (somthing I generaly try to avoid).

Don't you worry... They will come in due time. The reason I picked the Dutch is that they require big fast cruisers...

[Desertfox]

A cheap colonial gunboat to patrol the colonies, based on the German Iltis class. Plenty of misc weight for extra boats and marines.





Jaguar, Netherlands Colonial Gunboat laid down 1897

Displacement:
   701 t light; 724 t standard; 873 t normal; 992 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   210.00 ft / 210.00 ft x 29.00 ft x 11.40 ft (normal load)
   64.01 m / 64.01 m x 8.84 m  x 3.47 m

Armament:
      2 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1897 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1897 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 71 lbs / 32 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1,081 ihp / 806 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 4,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 268 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   79 - 104

Cost:
   £0.057 million / $0.227 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 9 tons, 1.0 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 0.5 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 177 tons, 20.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 270 tons, 31.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 172 tons, 19.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 240 tons, 27.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     962 lbs / 436 Kg = 27.2 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 12.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.440
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Forecastle (10 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Mid (50 %):      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Stern:      10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.20 ft / 3.11 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 92.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,854 Square feet or 358 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 130 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 196 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.85
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Nobody]

You are using SpringSharp2?

[snip]

SS3 will be the offical sim this time around. Sorry I didn't catch your use of SS2 earlyer.

[Desertfox]

*grumbles* SS3? Really? Any chance we can stick with the simpler more user-friendly SS2?


A coastal battleship. A couple of these, some of the cruisers above, and a bunch of gunboats and the Netherlands should be set.

Prince of Orange, Netherlands Coastal Battleship laid down 1899

Displacement:
   4,000 t light; 4,341 t standard; 4,622 t normal; 4,847 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (300.00 ft / 300.00 ft) x 57.00 ft x (17.20 / 17.86 ft)
   (91.44 m / 91.44 m) x 17.37 m  x (5.24 / 5.44 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 45.0 cal guns - 675.51lbs / 306.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4.13" / 105 mm 45.0 cal guns - 35.62lbs / 16.16kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 150 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2,987 lbs / 1,355 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m torpedoes - 0.000 t each, 0.000 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   170.00 ft / 51.82 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   130.00 ft / 39.62 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 87 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.00" / 127 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,890 ihp / 2,156 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,100nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 506 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   279 - 364

Cost:
   £0.470 million / $1.881 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 536 tons, 11.6 %
      - Guns: 536 tons, 11.6 %
   Armour: 1,239 tons, 26.8 %
      - Belts: 699 tons, 15.1 %
      - Armament: 288 tons, 6.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 223 tons, 4.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 30 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 458 tons, 9.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,717 tons, 37.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 622 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 1.1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,666 lbs / 2,570 Kg = 8.5 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 12.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.52

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.26 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.24 ft / 3.43 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 89.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,934 Square feet or 1,109 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 574 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.42
      - Overall: 1.01
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[snip]

The 11" guns should be L40 or lower.

*grumbles* SS3? Really? Any chance we can stick with the simpler more user-friendly SS2?

This change has been announced for a very long time. SS3 shal be the version of SpringSharp.

[Desertfox]

I thought that was for N-verse 4.0 and we were going back to the rules from N-verse 3.0.

[snip]

With some changes, we are. SS3 is one of those changes.

[Darman]

Austria might be interested in a version of your coastal BB, if you'd care to design a slightly larger one as a challenge?

[Logi]

Spain is quite interested in the coastal battleships too - but I'll wait for the challenge version - if you decide to take it up.

[Desertfox]

Sure I'm up, what do you guys want on it?

[Desertfox]

Fixed the CDS, 3 will be in service at start date.

Prince of Orange, Netherlands Coastal Battleship laid down 1899

Displacement:
   4,001 t light; 4,341 t standard; 4,622 t normal; 4,847 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (300.00 ft / 300.00 ft) x 57.00 ft x (17.20 / 17.86 ft)
   (91.44 m / 91.44 m) x 17.37 m  x (5.24 / 5.44 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 670.01lbs / 303.91kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4.13" / 105 mm 45.0 cal guns - 35.62lbs / 16.16kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1899 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 150 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2,965 lbs / 1,345 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 0.00 ft / 0.00 m torpedoes - 0.000 t each, 0.000 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   170.00 ft / 51.82 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   130.00 ft / 39.62 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 87 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.00" / 178 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.00" / 178 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,890 ihp / 2,156 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,100nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 506 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   279 - 364

Cost:
   £0.431 million / $1.725 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 460 tons, 9.9 %
      - Guns: 460 tons, 9.9 %
   Armour: 1,245 tons, 26.9 %
      - Belts: 699 tons, 15.1 %
      - Armament: 281 tons, 6.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 223 tons, 4.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 42 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 459 tons, 9.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,778 tons, 38.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 620 tons, 13.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 1.3 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,193 lbs / 2,809 Kg = 9.2 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 12.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.54
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.55

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.26 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.24 ft / 3.43 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 89.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,934 Square feet or 1,109 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 120 lbs/sq ft or 584 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 2.54
      - Overall: 1.05
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather