SpringSharp Request

Started by Sam_Observer22, June 05, 2022, 07:21:23 PM

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Sam_Observer22

Good day!
I was hoping that someone with experience in the software can help me convert a design from a fan-made source into a SpringSharp simulation of Alternate Universe Cruisers and Destroyers. For those who are kind enough to participate, you may simulate one of these desired designs. You may adjust the specifications except the dimensions length, beam, and draft. Thank you!

Note: I just wanted to see what they are like in SpringSharp specifications.

Heavy Cruiser Design
Displacement:   14,500 tons standard, 19,800 tons full load   
Length:   202.09 m
Beam:   22 m
Draught:   7.5 m
Machinery:4 shaft steam turbines, 140 000 shp
Speed:   34 knots
Range:   2450 nm at 28 knots
Armor:   6.1" side, 3.9" deck, 6.1" turrets
Armament: 8 x 8" (2x4), 10 x 3.9" (5x2), 14 x 37mm (7x2)
Aircraft:   3 (Loire 130)

Light Cruiser Design
Displacement:   7,200 tons std 9,100 tons full load   
Length:   169 m
Beam:   16.5 m
Draught:   7.3 m
Machinery:4 shaft steam turbines, 100,000shp
Speed:   35 knots
Range:   5600 nm at 18 knots
Armor:   2" side, 2" deck over machinery and magazines
Armament: 16 x 5.1" (4x4), 16 x 37mm (8x2)
Torpedo:   12 x 21" (4x3)

The Rock Doctor

What year for laying-down?

TacCovert4

Yeah, year can drastically change the tonnage to provide thst shp.
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The Rock Doctor

Some assumptions are made here...

1)  turreted the main battery given how heavy a quad-130mm probably is.  Switching to mount and hoist saves 0.04 HS
2)  Went with a transom stern given the speed
3)  Also given the speed, I went with a fairly late lay-down date.
4)  Can't meet all requested criteria, so zeroed in on hitting the standard displacement.

Light cruiser, laid down 1940

Displacement:
   6,881 t light; 7,208 t standard; 8,133 t normal; 8,874 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (554.46 ft / 554.46 ft) x 54.13 ft x (23.95 / 25.31 ft)
   (169.00 m / 169.00 m) x 16.50 m  x (7.30 / 7.71 m)

Armament:
      16 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
     4 x 4-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.56lbs / 0.71kg shells, 1,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,107 lbs / 502 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      12 - 21.0" / 533 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 1.363 t each, 16.350 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.01" / 51 mm   360.40 ft / 109.85 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.12" / 130 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   2.01" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 2.01" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.01" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 89,371 shp / 66,671 Kw = 35.00 kts
   Range 5,600nm at 18.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,666 tons

Complement:
   427 - 556

Cost:
   £4.080 million / $16.318 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 338 tons, 4.2 %
      - Guns: 318 tons, 3.9 %
      - Weapons: 20 tons, 0.3 %
   Armour: 1,585 tons, 19.5 %
      - Belts: 349 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armament: 171 tons, 2.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,066 tons, 13.1 %
   Machinery: 2,390 tons, 29.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,318 tons, 28.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,252 tons, 15.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 3.1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 150 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,154 lbs / 2,791 Kg = 91.8 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 14.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.396 / 0.409
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.20 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  25.89 ft / 7.89 m,  21.19 ft / 6.46 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  21.19 ft / 6.46 m,  16.47 ft / 5.02 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  16.47 ft / 5.02 m,  16.47 ft / 5.02 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.47 ft / 5.02 m,  16.47 ft / 5.02 m
      - Average freeboard:      18.50 ft / 5.64 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,125 Square feet or 1,777 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 368 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.73
      - Longitudinal: 1.44
      - Overall: 0.78
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room


The Rock Doctor

If I go with a more realistic block coefficient and a slightly lower speed, the design works on paper.  The displacement's a little higher than desired but not badly.

However, I don't for a moment thing a quad 130mm can fit on that fine, narrow hull.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1940

Displacement:
   7,614 t light; 7,957 t standard; 8,934 t normal; 9,717 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (554.46 ft / 554.46 ft) x 54.13 ft x (23.95 / 25.34 ft)
   (169.00 m / 169.00 m) x 16.50 m  x (7.30 / 7.72 m)

Armament:
      16 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
     4 x 4-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.56lbs / 0.71kg shells, 1,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1,107 lbs / 502 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      12 - 21.0" / 533 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 1.363 t each, 16.350 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.01" / 51 mm   360.40 ft / 109.85 m   11.81 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.12" / 130 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   2.01" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 2.01" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.01" / 51 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 86,220 shp / 64,320 Kw = 34.00 kts
   Range 5,600nm at 18.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,760 tons

Complement:
   459 - 597

Cost:
   £4.163 million / $16.651 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 338 tons, 3.8 %
      - Guns: 318 tons, 3.6 %
      - Weapons: 20 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 1,487 tons, 16.6 %
      - Belts: 349 tons, 3.9 %
      - Armament: 180 tons, 2.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 958 tons, 10.7 %
   Machinery: 2,305 tons, 25.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,233 tons, 36.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,320 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 150 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10,924 lbs / 4,955 Kg = 163.0 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and large transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.435 / 0.447
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.24 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27.04 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      20.08 ft / 6.12 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,647 Square feet or 1,825 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 468 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Sam_Observer22

Forgot to specify the date, but the said design can take in the years 1935-40.