Ships of the Regia Marina Italiana

[Tanthalas]

Same drill just playing around but I am drawing this one.  Opinions welcome as always.

PCX, Italia Protected Cruiser laid down 1896

Displacement:
   3,400 t light; 3,520 t standard; 3,943 t normal; 4,281 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (349.00 ft / 349.00 ft) x 43.00 ft x (17.50 / 18.66 ft)
   (106.38 m / 106.38 m) x 13.11 m  x (5.33 / 5.69 m)

Armament:
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 100 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 40.0 cal guns - 12.94lbs / 5.87kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 704 lbs / 319 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 18.0" / 457 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.519 t each, 1.038 t total
   submerged bow tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      1 - 18.0" / 457 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedo - 0.519 t total
   submerged stern tube

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   328.00 ft / 99.97 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,000 ihp / 7,460 Kw = 20.38 kts
   Range 5,002nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 761 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   248 - 323

Cost:
   £0.378 million / $1.514 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 115 tons, 2.9 %
      - Guns: 111 tons, 2.8 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 677 tons, 17.2 %
      - Belts: 102 tons, 2.6 %
      - Armament: 68 tons, 1.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 485 tons, 12.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1,634 tons, 41.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 950 tons, 24.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 543 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 24 tons, 0.6 %
      - Hull below water: 9 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 15 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,890 lbs / 857 Kg = 17.5 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.51
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 10.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.33

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.12 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.50 ft / 2.59 m,  8.50 ft / 2.59 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  8.50 ft / 2.59 m,  8.50 ft / 2.59 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.75 ft / 3.28 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 144.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 66.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,236 Square feet or 951 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 311 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.37
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Tanthalas]

More Playing around inspired by the snip.

, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1890

Displacement:
   2,900 t light; 3,020 t standard; 3,370 t normal; 3,650 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (313.00 ft / 313.00 ft) x 43.00 ft x (17.00 / 18.12 ft)
   (95.40 m / 95.40 m) x 13.11 m  x (5.18 / 5.52 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 103.51lbs / 46.95kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 6.00" / 152 mm 40.0 cal guns - 103.51lbs / 46.95kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 32.27lbs / 14.64kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 879 lbs / 399 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm         -               -
   2nd:   2.00" / 51 mm         -               -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 8,832 ihp / 6,589 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 4,100nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 631 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   220 - 287

Cost:
   £0.357 million / $1.426 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 123 tons, 3.6 %
      - Guns: 123 tons, 3.6 %
   Armour: 362 tons, 10.7 %
      - Armament: 58 tons, 1.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 289 tons, 8.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 15 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,547 tons, 45.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 868 tons, 25.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 470 tons, 14.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,320 lbs / 599 Kg = 12.2 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.56
   Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 10.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.17
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.516 / 0.524
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.28 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.69 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.44 ft / 2.88 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 159.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 60.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,768 Square feet or 815 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 337 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.50
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[snip]

More Playing around inspired by the snip.

I warnent a "the" in front of my name now? Cool 8)

[Tanthalas]

More Playing around inspired by the snip.

I warnent a "the" in front of my name now? Cool 8)

Where did my ship go T.T

[snip]

search me, I just work IT

[Tanthalas]

A shorter leged much faster and better armed PC.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1897

Displacement:
   5,600 t light; 5,787 t standard; 6,138 t normal; 6,419 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (449.00 ft / 449.00 ft) x 49.00 ft x (21.00 / 21.69 ft)
   (136.86 m / 136.86 m) x 14.94 m  x (6.40 / 6.61 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 40.0 cal guns - 245.35lbs / 111.29kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.62lbs / 6.18kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,090 lbs / 495 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.00" / 76 mm   442.00 ft / 134.72 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 151 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      4.00" / 102 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 4.00" / 102 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 16,000 ihp / 11,936 Kw = 22.06 kts
   Range 2,998nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 632 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   346 - 450

Cost:
   £0.651 million / $2.602 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 216 tons, 3.5 %
      - Guns: 216 tons, 3.5 %
   Armour: 844 tons, 13.7 %
      - Belts: 201 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armament: 133 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 481 tons, 7.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 29 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 2,623 tons, 42.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,894 tons, 30.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 538 tons, 8.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 23 tons, 0.4 %
      - On freeboard deck: 23 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,376 lbs / 1,078 Kg = 9.3 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.465 / 0.471
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.16 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.19 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.72 ft / 3.27 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 151.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 78.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 14,211 Square feet or 1,320 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 438 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.13
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Tanthalas]

So im still playing aorund with my Regina Elena knock off, and coming up with storyline reasons for various things I have decided (or potentialy might decide) to do.  Latest version uses 11/40 instead of 12/35 as its main gun of choice, icreases deck protection by almost an inch and droped 100 tons for minor increase in speed.  Now that the technical stuff is out of the way on to the important information (aka the storyline justification)

In November of 1894 Italian naval designer Vittorio Cuniberti presented the design for what he belived would be the definitive battleship of its era to the Naval Board of the Regina Marina.  His proposed ship would match anything afloat at that time for firepower while being faster than any other battleship in the world and still maintain a reasonable level of protection.  Having heard his proposal the Naval Board as comittees tend to took its dear sweet time coming to a decision, however in October of 1895 finaly decided that the prposed ship was worth building and placed an imediate order for 4 with options on an aditional 4.

The original plan presented by Cuniberti had called for the ship to be armed with 12/35 armstrong guns, however owing to straind relations with the British crown the decision was made to instead arm it with German guns instead, leading to it reciving the Krupp 11/40.

and now the ship

Regina Elena, Italia Battleship laid down 1896

Displacement:
   13,500 t light; 14,026 t standard; 14,990 t normal; 15,761 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (474.00 ft / 474.00 ft) x 73.00 ft x (27.60 / 28.72 ft)
   (144.48 m / 144.48 m) x 22.25 m  x (8.41 / 8.75 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.00" / 279 mm 40.0 cal guns - 529.00lbs / 239.95kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 45.0 cal guns - 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.62lbs / 6.18kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1896 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 45.0 cal guns - 13.62lbs / 6.18kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,382 lbs / 1,988 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   322.00 ft / 98.15 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   144.00 ft / 43.89 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     8.00 ft / 2.44 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   322.00 ft / 98.15 m   7.00 ft / 2.13 m
     Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.00" / 229 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 22,000 ihp / 16,412 Kw = 20.59 kts
   Range 4,999nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,736 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   676 - 880

Cost:
   £1.402 million / $5.609 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 917 tons, 6.1 %
      - Guns: 917 tons, 6.1 %
   Armour: 4,123 tons, 27.5 %
      - Belts: 2,282 tons, 15.2 %
      - Armament: 920 tons, 6.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 803 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 118 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 3,667 tons, 24.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,551 tons, 30.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,490 tons, 9.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 242 tons, 1.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 242 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,205 lbs / 5,990 Kg = 19.8 x 11.0 " / 279 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.549 / 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.49 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.77 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   19.00 %,  26.00 ft / 7.92 m,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  18.00 ft / 5.49 m,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m
      - Aft deck:   32.00 %,  16.00 ft / 4.88 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Average freeboard:      17.64 ft / 5.38 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,135 Square feet or 2,242 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 662 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.90
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[Logi]

Just noticed the Regina Elena design has this problem:

8.00 ft / 2.44 m Unarmoured ends

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Just noticed the Regina Elena design has this problem:

8.00 ft / 2.44 m Unarmoured ends

How is it a problem? I have seen several ships that did not have a compleatly armored waterline.

[Tanthalas]

Since I show the ends armored in the pic it is a problem, but only for someone as OCD as me...

Just noticed the Regina Elena design has this problem:

8.00 ft / 2.44 m Unarmoured ends

How is it a problem? I have seen several ships that did not have a compleatly armored waterline.

[Tanthalas]

Not so happy with this one, but it is functional so ill go ahead and post it, opinions are as always welcome (but remember service will primarily be in the med)

Partenope class, Italia Torpedo Cruiser laid down 1890

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,030 t standard; 1,112 t normal; 1,178 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.00 ft / 229.00 ft) x 27.00 ft x (12.00 / 12.56 ft)
   (69.80 m / 69.80 m) x 8.23 m  x (3.66 / 3.83 m)

Armament:
      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 49.75lbs / 22.57kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mount, 1890 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline forward
      Weight of broadside 100 lbs / 45 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      6 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.300 t each, 1.801 t total
   In 6 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.00" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 5,000 ihp / 3,730 Kw = 20.02 kts
   Range 1,800nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 147 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   96 - 125

Cost:
   £0.122 million / $0.489 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 18 tons, 1.6 %
      - Guns: 15 tons, 1.4 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 72 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 69 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 593 tons, 53.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 310 tons, 27.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 112 tons, 10.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 7 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     414 lbs / 188 Kg = 8.0 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.47
   Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 9.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.531
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.48 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.10 ft / 2.77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 176.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 68.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,070 Square feet or 378 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 56 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 44 lbs/sq ft or 216 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.89
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room

[KWorld]

> Armament:
>      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 49.75lbs / 22.57kg shells, 150 per gun
>      Quick firing guns in deck mount, 1890 Model
>      1 x Single mount on centreline forward

I'm guessing there should be a second mount aft?

No other guns at all, not even 3 or 6 pounders?

Just for maneuverability's sake, I'd go with 2 shafts, not 1.

Early designs like this are problems to sim, I agree: I started to try to sim USS Olympia, but it definitely wasn't working.....

[Tanthalas]

Olympias bigest problem in SS2 or SS3 is the mount rules we use, that and armor coverage... Conways calls for 6X57mm in adition to the pair of 4.7" guns however I had to do away with them to get the necessary misc weight for the Torpedos... thing was only suposed to weigh in at 873 tons standard but that was just totaly non functional (unless I built it under DD rules which we cant just yet)

[Tanthalas]

Another posible version it deleats one of the 4.7" guns for 6 2.25 (57mm) "secondary" guns  and adds a second shaft (although if I deleat the second shaft and run it with one per OTL I can keep the second 4.7)

Partenope class, Italia Torpedo Cruiser laid down 1890

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,029 t standard; 1,111 t normal; 1,176 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.00 ft / 229.00 ft) x 27.00 ft x (12.00 / 12.54 ft)
   (69.80 m / 69.80 m) x 8.23 m  x (3.66 / 3.82 m)

Armament:
      1 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal gun - 49.76lbs / 22.57kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1890 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre
      6 - 2.25" / 57.2 mm 43.0 cal guns - 5.00lbs / 2.27kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 80 lbs / 36 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      6 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.300 t each, 1.801 t total
   In 6 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.00" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4,988 ihp / 3,721 Kw = 20.01 kts
   Range 1,800nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 147 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   96 - 125

Cost:
   £0.122 million / $0.487 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 17 tons, 1.5 %
      - Guns: 14 tons, 1.3 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 74 tons, 6.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 72 tons, 6.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 593 tons, 53.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 311 tons, 28.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 111 tons, 10.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 0.5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 6 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     418 lbs / 190 Kg = 8.0 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 9.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.524 / 0.531
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.48 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.10 ft / 2.77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 71.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,212 Square feet or 391 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 57 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 44 lbs/sq ft or 214 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.88
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room

[Tanthalas]

the third version with 2X4.7 6X2.25 and 6 torps with a single shaft.

Partenope class, Italia Torpedo Cruiser laid down 1890

Displacement:
   1,000 t light; 1,030 t standard; 1,112 t normal; 1,178 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.00 ft / 229.00 ft) x 27.00 ft x (12.00 / 12.56 ft)
   (69.80 m / 69.80 m) x 8.23 m  x (3.66 / 3.83 m)

Armament:
      2 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 49.76lbs / 22.57kg shells, 100 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      6 - 2.25" / 57.2 mm 43.0 cal guns - 5.00lbs / 2.27kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1890 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 130 lbs / 59 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      6 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.300 t each, 1.801 t total
   In 6 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.00" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 4,981 ihp / 3,716 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 1,800nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 147 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   96 - 125

Cost:
   £0.123 million / $0.494 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 24 tons, 2.2 %
      - Guns: 22 tons, 2.0 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 72 tons, 6.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 69 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 589 tons, 53.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 309 tons, 27.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 112 tons, 10.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 0.5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 6 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     409 lbs / 186 Kg = 7.9 x 4.7 " / 119 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 9.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.531
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.48 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m
      - Aft deck:   60.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m,  7.00 ft / 2.13 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.10 ft / 2.77 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 176.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 68.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,068 Square feet or 378 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 56 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 45 lbs/sq ft or 219 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.89
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room