Economic Rules Discution

Started by snip, August 31, 2012, 11:35:10 AM

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Nobody

#60
How do we want our IC and BP pricing to work? Per region or global?
[Edit: I think it should be global, otherwise our modified pricing makes less or no sense, e.g. you would be benefited by making up additional borders]




What do you think about the following ideas:
1) building BPs "at home" is cheaper than doing so in the colonies
2a) building ICs in the colonies is cheaper than doing so "at home"
2b) building ICs "in pairs" (one at home, one in a colony) makes them cheaper
3) less industrialized countries (importers) are treated as a colony in that respect, so they can more easily increase their income

Darman

I would say per region but at the same time could there be a modifier added for colonial expansion?  Or would that be too complicated? 

Tanthalas

I would say do it by Region, this will also have the effect of making IC growth in the colonies cheaper than it is at home.  As to BP I would say limiting them to the "home" Region would be the simpelest method.

Quote from: Darman on September 16, 2012, 07:44:26 AM
I would say per region but at the same time could there be a modifier added for colonial expansion?  Or would that be too complicated?
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

snip

Since I have the Pop goldmine of India, Im going to argue regional. But my opinion may be a bit bias. Regional does allow for faster growth in the colonies, which is slightly more realistic.
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Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
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Nobody

Quote from: snip on September 16, 2012, 11:11:14 AM
Regional does allow for faster growth in the colonies, which is slightly more realistic.
Only if they are big enough. Several of mine seem to be so small (only a few 10000) that building there might be ruddy expansive.

snip

Yes, I have a few places like that as well. Really any developmental work I do is going to be in India. Right now with the numbers I am fiddling with, I have a 10:1 Pop:IC ratio there and it still has the highest income of any of my colonies.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Tanthalas

Quote from: Nobody on September 16, 2012, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: snip on September 16, 2012, 11:11:14 AM
Regional does allow for faster growth in the colonies, which is slightly more realistic.
Only if they are big enough. Several of mine seem to be so small (only a few 10000) that building there might be ruddy expansive.

I think the first IC anywhere has the fastest payoff after that it depends.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

snip

Where are we on desiding on regional vs Global pricing?
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

Tanthalas

as previously posted (by me) I like it as Regional, allowes "cheaper" growth in our colonial holdings (realistic) and the spreadsheat for costs allows it to be easly used.  Personaly I thought this was a done deal.

Quote from: snip on September 27, 2012, 10:12:37 AM
Where are we on desiding on regional vs Global pricing?
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Nobody

#69
Quote from: Tanthalas on September 27, 2012, 10:14:56 AM
as previously posted (by me) I like it as Regional, allowes "cheaper" growth in our colonial holdings (realistic) and the spreadsheat for costs allows it to be easly used.  Personaly I thought this was a done deal.

Quote from: snip on September 27, 2012, 10:12:37 AM
Where are we on desiding on regional vs Global pricing?
Then I think every territory has to start with at least 1 IC.

P.S.:
This is one of the things I could have added to the example...

P.P.S.:
So IC cost stays at 25+5*n_IC/sqrt(pop) and that per region?
And BP are 100+5*n_BP, but globally or are they regional as well?

Tanthalas

the IC and BP cost spread sheat works relay well I think (I added it to my report Spread sheat I liked it so much).  and I was operating on a 1 IC per region minimum rule (I have a few WTF colonies to although I moved some pop around a bit to make all my numbers even atleast).
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Delta Force

How will the regions be done? Russia has no colonies so it would put it at a disadvantage if things are done on a national scale. If there is a Far East, Siberia, Ural mountains, European Russia, etc. it would be a lot more fair as otherwise there will be no areas that can be cheaply developed.

snip

Quote from: snip on September 27, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
The homeland and each colony should be its own region.

So Russia will all be one region.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

KWorld

Quote from: snip on September 28, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
Quote from: snip on September 27, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
The homeland and each colony should be its own region.

So Russia will all be one region.

Delta Force, consider it encouragement to getting on with colonizing Korea and Afghanistan.  I'm considering it encouragement to colonize Alaska, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and Samoa.

Nobody

Quote from: KWorld on September 28, 2012, 09:15:22 AM
Delta Force, consider it encouragement to getting on with colonizing Korea and Afghanistan.  I'm considering it encouragement to colonize [...] Samoa.
That however, is a German colony already.