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AGB, France Armored Gunboat laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   3 100 t light; 3 241 t standard; 3 547 t normal; 3 791 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.50 ft / 229.50 ft) x 49.20 ft x (17.29 / 18.29 ft)
   (69.95 m / 69.95 m) x 15.00 m  x (5.27 / 5.57 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7.65" / 194 mm 40.0 cal guns - 214.54lbs / 97.31kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.13lbs / 14.12kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 107 lbs / 502 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   196.85 ft / 60.00 m   7.22 ft / 2.20 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     20.00 ft / 6.10 m   5.90 ft / 1.80 m
     12.65 ft / 3.86 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 132 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   0.99" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.99" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.99" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7 700 ihp / 5 744 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 4 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 549 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   229 - 298

Cost:
   £0.355 million / $1.418 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 221 tons, 6.2 %
      - Guns: 216 tons, 6.1 %
      - Weapons: 5 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 791 tons, 22.3 %
      - Belts: 365 tons, 10.3 %
      - Armament: 197 tons, 5.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 229 tons, 6.4 %
   Machinery: 1 160 tons, 32.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 899 tons, 25.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 447 tons, 12.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 29 tons, 0.8 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 273 lbs / 1 031 Kg = 10.2 x 7.7 " / 194 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 12.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.636 / 0.643
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.66 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  14.00 ft / 4.27 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m,  13.00 ft / 3.96 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.07 ft / 3.98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 8 539 Square feet or 793 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 390 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.86
      - Longitudinal: 3.58
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

4 tons for torpedoes
25 tons for Marconi

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TB6, France FleetTB laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)
20 TB in 1902 Plan
Displacement:
   500 t light; 515 t standard; 592 t normal; 653 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.50 ft / 229.50 ft) x 24.27 ft x (9.30 / 9.93 ft)
   (69.95 m / 69.95 m) x 7.40 m  x (2.83 / 3.03 m)

Armament:
      3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 36.6 cal guns - 12.15lbs / 5.51kg shells, 170 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      2 - 0.32" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 36 lbs / 17 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.613 t each, 1.227 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.613 t each, 1.227 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.20" / 5 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 ihp / 5 968 Kw = 25.16 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 138 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   59 - 78

Cost:
   £0.068 million / $0.271 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 10 tons, 1.6 %
      - Guns: 6 tons, 1.0 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.7 %
   Armour: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 348 tons, 58.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 127 tons, 21.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 92 tons, 15.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 2.4 %
      - On freeboard deck: 4 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     131 lbs / 59 Kg = 10.2 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.41
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.414
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.77 ft / 3.89 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  8.60 ft / 2.62 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.60 ft / 2.62 m,  8.10 ft / 2.47 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.10 ft / 2.47 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.40 ft / 2.86 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 192.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 429 Square feet or 319 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 23 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 100 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.44
      - Overall: 0.55
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Trial Speed: 28kts
Bonus: 2.84

Misc weight 14t
4 t for torpedoes
10t for Marconi

This class is equiped with the French  QF 75mm gun Mlle 1897 - rof 10 to 20 - range max 8500m

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TorpedoBoatMinelayers
1901=>4TBM
1902=>8TBM
1903=>4TBM

TBM1901, France TBM laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   500 t light; 516 t standard; 563 t normal; 601 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.50 ft / 229.50 ft) x 22.95 ft x (9.85 / 10.27 ft)
   (69.95 m / 69.95 m) x 7.00 m  x (3.00 / 3.13 m)

Armament:
      2 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 29.12lbs / 13.21kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 0.32" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      Weight of broadside 58 lbs / 26 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.20" / 5 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7 500 ihp / 5 595 Kw = 25.07 kts
   Range 1 850nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 86 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   57 - 75

Cost:
   £0.065 million / $0.262 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 11 tons, 1.9 %
      - Guns: 9 tons, 1.5 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.4 %
   Armour: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 326 tons, 57.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 119 tons, 21.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 64 tons, 11.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 42 tons, 7.5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 32 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     112 lbs / 51 Kg = 3.6 x 4.0 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 11.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.389
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.05 ft / 3.67 m,  10.30 ft / 3.14 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.30 ft / 3.14 m,  8.30 ft / 2.53 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.30 ft / 2.53 m,  7.80 ft / 2.38 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  7.80 ft / 2.38 m,  7.30 ft / 2.23 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.92 ft / 2.72 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 191.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 71.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 199 Square feet or 297 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 23 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 99 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.47
      - Overall: 0.56
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Trial Speed: 27.5kts
Bonus: 2.43

Misc weight 42t
10t for Marconi
2 t for torpedoes
30t for 30 minen

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Not in the plan but study for the fun...

TR1, France Torpedo Ram laid down 1901 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   2 140 t light; 2 228 t standard; 2 294 t normal; 2 347 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.00 ft / 221.00 ft) x 39.37 ft x (15.13 / 15.42 ft)
   (69.80 m / 67.36 m) x 12.00 m  x (4.61 / 4.70 m)

Armament:
      1 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal gun - 225.76lbs / 102.40kg shells, 60 per gun
     Breech loading gun in casemate mount, 1901 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      2 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.76lbs / 102.40kg shells, 60 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      6 - 3.95" / 100 mm 36.0 cal guns - 29.05lbs / 13.18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      2 - 0.32" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 852 lbs / 386 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.93" / 100 mm   157.47 ft / 48.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   5.90" / 150 mm     59.05 ft / 18.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     4.48 ft / 1.37 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3.93" / 100 mm   216.52 ft / 66.00 m   3.95 ft / 1.20 m
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   5.90" / 150 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.99" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.99" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5 800 ihp / 4 327 Kw = 18.07 kts
   Range 1 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 119 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   165 - 215

Cost:
   £0.226 million / $0.903 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 129 tons, 5.6 %
      - Guns: 124 tons, 5.4 %
      - Weapons: 5 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 682 tons, 29.7 %
      - Belts: 446 tons, 19.5 %
      - Armament: 63 tons, 2.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 172 tons, 7.5 %
   Machinery: 802 tons, 34.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 514 tons, 22.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 154 tons, 6.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 0.6 %
      - On freeboard deck: 4 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1 518 lbs / 688 Kg = 6.8 x 7.7 " / 194 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.31
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 11.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.610 / 0.612
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.61 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.87 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.10 ft / 4.60 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m,  10.17 ft / 3.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.80 ft / 3.60 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 129.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 6 423 Square feet or 597 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 80 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 59 lbs/sq ft or 286 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.76
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[KWorld]

Hmmmmm.  Some sort of odd CSS Virginia follow-on, maybe?  I don't know that there's enough deck space for all the casemates and deck guns and torpedo tubes, some might have to go up or down.  The upper belt is also odd in that it's so short.

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The ram & the 7.65 turrets had the main protection, 5"9
The middle & the aft part had only 3"9.

There's no aft turret so, the deck place could be enough.

An interresting study drawing to do...

Jef

[KWorld]

You've got 229 feet of length, minus 25.5 feet of stern and forecastle, so 203 feet of useful length.  The bow chaser won't use any of this, so that's good.  Your casemate 7.65" guns will use about 60 feet of useful length, you're down to 143.  Each of the 3.95" guns need a minimum of 24', so you're down to 71.  Each of the torpedo tubes will use 24' or so, so you're down to 25'.  Tight, but it will fit, though the gunners on the 3.95" guns and the torpedo tubes will be very vulnerable to an HE burst, and fire at targets aft of the centerline by the 7.65" gun is not recommended while the 3.95" guns are manned.

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much numbers...
:)

Side 7'65 couldnt fire aft. they fire front & 150-160° side.
3"9 are installed en echelon - they are vs TBs.

This ship placed at the end of the line is made to run vs a slow damaged BBs with 12" disabled.
She could fire 3x7"65 when she run.

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If the drawing deck space is too cramped, I remove 2x3"9...
:)

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Testing the new T2x240 (Danton turret) on a fleet cruiser.

T2x240 =>
Guns : 47.5t
Mounts : 142t
Armour : 118.5t
Total : 308t

AC7, France Fleet Cruiser laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   11 150 t light; 11 651 t standard; 12 754 t normal; 13 636 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (505.00 ft / 500.00 ft) x 66.70 ft x (22.31 / 23.57 ft)
   (153.92 m / 152.40 m) x 20.33 m  x (6.80 / 7.19 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.50" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 83.91lbs / 38.06kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.13lbs / 14.12kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0.32" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 860 lbs / 1 297 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 17.70 ft / 5.39 m torpedoes - 0.668 t each, 1.335 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 17.70 ft / 5.39 m torpedoes - 0.668 t each, 2.671 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   442.90 ft / 135.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     30.42 ft / 9.27 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     26.68 ft / 8.13 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1.57" / 40 mm   442.90 ft / 135.00 m   6.56 ft / 2.00 m
     Main Belt covers 136 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.10" / 180 mm   1.95" / 50 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   1.77" / 45 mm   0.97" / 25 mm      1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.80" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.77" / 45 mm
   Forecastle: 0.99" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.99" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 5.90" / 150 mm, Aft 3.95" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 30 000 ihp / 22 380 Kw = 22.94 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 985 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   599 - 780

Cost:
   £1.243 million / $4.973 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 527 tons, 4.1 %
      - Guns: 519 tons, 4.1 %
      - Weapons: 8 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 2 362 tons, 18.5 %
      - Belts: 1 229 tons, 9.6 %
      - Armament: 293 tons, 2.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 723 tons, 5.7 %
      - Conning Towers: 116 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 4 641 tons, 36.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 483 tons, 27.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 603 tons, 12.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 137 tons, 1.1 %
      - Hull below water: 12 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 901 lbs / 3 584 Kg = 18.7 x 9.5 " / 240 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 12.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.32
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.42

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.607
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.36 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  18.37 ft / 5.60 m,  16.72 ft / 5.10 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  16.72 ft / 5.10 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.22 ft / 4.94 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 134.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 24 392 Square feet or 2 266 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 517 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.36
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Jefgte]

A lighter version for a 120m shipyard

AC7-120m, France AC7-120m laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   8 650 t light; 9 074 t standard; 10 038 t normal; 10 809 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.20 ft / 393.20 ft) x 69.60 ft x (21.40 / 22.74 ft)
   (119.85 m / 119.85 m) x 21.21 m  x (6.52 / 6.93 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 5.50" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 83.90lbs / 38.05kg shells, 170 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.14lbs / 14.12kg shells, 220 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 860 lbs / 1 297 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   submerged bow tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.15 ft / 4.92 m torpedoes - 0.591 t each, 1.182 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   328.10 ft / 100.00 m   8.52 ft / 2.60 m
   Ends:   2.95" / 75 mm     60.05 ft / 18.30 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     5.05 ft / 1.54 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   328.10 ft / 100.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     Main Belt covers 128 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.10" / 180 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.80" / 20 mm      1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.77" / 45 mm
   Forecastle: 0.99" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0.99" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 5.90" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 21 000 ihp / 15 666 Kw = 21.07 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 735 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   500 - 651

Cost:
   £0.965 million / $3.861 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 529 tons, 5.3 %
      - Guns: 525 tons, 5.2 %
      - Weapons: 5 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 2 080 tons, 20.7 %
      - Belts: 1 060 tons, 10.6 %
      - Armament: 288 tons, 2.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 594 tons, 5.9 %
      - Conning Towers: 138 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 3 281 tons, 32.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 624 tons, 26.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 388 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 135 tons, 1.3 %
      - Hull below water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6 654 lbs / 3 018 Kg = 15.8 x 9.5 " / 240 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.608
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.65 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  17.40 ft / 5.30 m,  14.42 ft / 4.40 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  14.42 ft / 4.40 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.78 ft / 4.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 20 016 Square feet or 1 860 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 106 lbs/sq ft or 516 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.76
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[Jefgte]

Always smaller  & always 2T2x240 from Danton...

colonial cruiser, France CC1 laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   4 380 t light; 4 631 t standard; 5 279 t normal; 5 798 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (342.00 ft / 340.00 ft) x 54.00 ft x (17.50 / 18.89 ft)
   (104.24 m / 103.63 m) x 16.46 m  x (5.33 / 5.76 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.13lbs / 14.12kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.32" / 8.0 mm 36.6 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 189 lbs / 993 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.95" / 100 mm   236.00 ft / 71.93 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     30.00 ft / 9.14 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     74.00 ft / 22.56 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1.57" / 40 mm   236.00 ft / 71.93 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   1.77" / 45 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.95" / 100 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7 792 ihp / 5 813 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 167 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   309 - 402

Cost:
   £0.495 million / $1.980 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 424 tons, 8.0 %
      - Guns: 424 tons, 8.0 %
   Armour: 1 015 tons, 19.2 %
      - Belts: 455 tons, 8.6 %
      - Armament: 196 tons, 3.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 339 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 26 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1 218 tons, 23.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 578 tons, 29.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 900 tons, 17.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 145 tons, 2.7 %
      - Hull below water: 20 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 003 lbs / 2 269 Kg = 11.9 x 9.5 " / 240 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 81 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.45

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.585
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.44 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.06 ft / 3.67 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 117 Square feet or 1 219 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 468 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.90
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Jefgte]

...Updated to the classic 21kts

colonial cruiser, France CC1-21kts laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   7 150 t light; 7 463 t standard; 8 327 t normal; 9 018 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.00 ft / 393.00 ft) x 61.70 ft x (19.51 / 20.86 ft)
   (119.79 m / 119.79 m) x 18.81 m  x (5.95 / 6.36 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 45.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.13lbs / 14.12kg shells, 120 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0.32" / 8.0 mm 36.6 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 189 lbs / 993 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   337.92 ft / 103.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm     33.00 ft / 10.06 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     22.08 ft / 6.73 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   1.57" / 40 mm   337.92 ft / 103.00 m   7.87 ft / 2.40 m
     Main Belt covers 132 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.90" / 150 mm   1.77" / 45 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0.77" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.77" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.95" / 100 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 18 481 ihp / 13 787 Kw = 21.06 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 556 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   435 - 566

Cost:
   £0.826 million / $3.304 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 424 tons, 5.1 %
      - Guns: 424 tons, 5.1 %
   Armour: 1 527 tons, 18.3 %
      - Belts: 831 tons, 10.0 %
      - Armament: 196 tons, 2.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 465 tons, 5.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 35 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2 888 tons, 34.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 167 tons, 26.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 177 tons, 14.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 145 tons, 1.7 %
      - Hull below water: 20 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4 967 lbs / 2 253 Kg = 11.8 x 9.5 " / 240 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
   Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 12.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.26
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.616 / 0.624
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.37 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.42 ft / 4.70 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m,  11.47 ft / 3.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.06 ft / 3.67 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 131.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 92.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 001 Square feet or 1 672 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 471 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.40
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

[KWorld]

Main battery and speed are fine for the role.  Main belt is OK as well, and I suppose the end & upper belts are viable against HE/common rounds from small guns.  The concern I'd have with this ship is the secondary battery: it's fine for dealing with colonial threats, but if the ship ever has to fight against torpedo boats, the lack of tubes might become a problem.