Colonial Navy

[Delta Force]

Range should be fine for escorting when she's laid down, the various countries don't have any overseas colonies then.  I'm not enamored of the design otherwise, though, seems too specialized: too slow to operate with the battle fleet, definitely too slow to operate as a scout.  The deck mounted 15cm guns will drop in ROF as soon as their ready rounds are exhausted, and there are no torpedoes.

I was trying to choose between the 3.5 inch and 6 inch guns and chose to go with the bigger ones because they are much closer to the armament a light cruiser is likely to have. The speed limitation is actually more due to the size than due to lack of engine power (47% is going into wave production right now). It would have to be much longer to be able to efficiently use any increased power, driving up the costs of something meant as a cheap mass production escort (I am probably going to increase bunkerage and decrease shells carried though). As for torpedoes, I figure that due to its defensive role and lack of speed they would not be very useful weapons for it to have.

Another gun size you could look into is something around 4 inches: if you're basing some of your guns and designs on German vessels, they certainly used a 4.1" on light cruisers during a similar period.

That is a nice idea. I have been trying to limit ammunition types in order to help with logistics. 105 mm guns are not really something that I plan on having used by the navy (the 90 mm and 150 mm are going to be the naval calibers), but they will certainly be used by the army. Given the role of the ship using army ammunition stocks will be a major advantage.

[Delta Force]

Changing to 105 mm allowed me to extend the range to 4800 miles at 12 knots and also reduce tonnage by 40 tons.

1895 Sloopv2, Colonial Navy SP laid down 1895

Displacement:
   1,221 t light; 1,284 t standard; 1,660 t normal; 1,962 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (249.34 ft / 249.34 ft) x 36.09 ft x (11.48 / 13.19 ft)
   (76.00 m / 76.00 m) x 11.00 m  x (3.50 / 4.02 m)

Armament:
      6 - 4.13" / 105 mm 40.0 cal guns - 33.07lbs / 15.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 205 lbs / 93 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   249.34 ft / 76.00 m   5.00 ft / 1.53 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.95" / 75 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 2,649 ihp / 1,976 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 4,800nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 678 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   129 - 169

Cost:
   £0.115 million / $0.459 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 30 tons, 1.8 %
      - Guns: 30 tons, 1.8 %
   Armour: 349 tons, 21.0 %
      - Belts: 91 tons, 5.5 %
      - Armament: 23 tons, 1.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 227 tons, 13.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 449 tons, 27.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 392 tons, 23.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 439 tons, 26.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,029 lbs / 920 Kg = 57.4 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.00
   Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 8.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.562 / 0.578
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.91 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.79 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m,  6.07 ft / 1.85 m
      - Average freeboard:      6.07 ft / 1.85 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 55.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 6,175 Square feet or 574 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 48 lbs/sq ft or 235 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.01
      - Longitudinal: 0.99
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room

Armor is in protected cruiser configuration.

Adjusted trial speed 16.5 knots.

[KWorld]

I suspect you're going to want something larger than a 90mm and smaller than a 150mm as a destroyer gun: the 90's really too small for the job and the 150's too big.  But it's your call, in the end.

[Delta Force]

I suspect you're going to want something larger than a 90mm and smaller than a 150mm as a destroyer gun: the 90's really too small for the job and the 150's too big.  But it's your call, in the end.

Would you go with the 105 mm (4.1 inch), 115 mm (4.5 inch), or 125 mm (5 inch)? Not sure which one strikes the right balance between stopping power and rate of fire, and for smaller ships a uniform battery would be quite nice.

[KWorld]

For now, I would stay closer to 4" than 5" for destroyer guns, mostly for ROF reasons (when you're up near 5", separate loading is recommended).  If you look at the DD I recently posted for the CRN, you'll see an armament of 100mm guns.....

[Delta Force]

I increased the light secondary armament to 90 mm from 50 mm in order to provide more firepower. That, and the coastal battleship was going to be the only capital ship using the caliber, so switching out simplifies logistics.

1895 Coastal Battleshipv3, Colonial Navy BB laid down 1895

Displacement:
   5,276 t light; 5,548 t standard; 5,960 t normal; 6,289 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (328.08 ft / 328.08 ft) x 56.59 ft x (20.57 / 21.46 ft)
   (100.00 m / 100.00 m) x 17.25 m  x (6.27 / 6.54 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     14 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      14 raised mounts
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2,297 lbs / 1,042 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   212.27 ft / 64.70 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   4.92" / 125 mm   115.81 ft / 35.30 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.45" / 240 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 5,366 ihp / 4,003 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 2,400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 741 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   338 - 440

Cost:
   £0.485 million / $1.939 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 442 tons, 7.4 %
      - Guns: 442 tons, 7.4 %
   Armour: 2,283 tons, 38.3 %
      - Belts: 1,350 tons, 22.6 %
      - Armament: 392 tons, 6.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 474 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 67 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 910 tons, 15.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,641 tons, 27.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 684 tons, 11.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,905 lbs / 3,132 Kg = 16.4 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 13.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.39
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.546 / 0.552
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 71.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,913 Square feet or 1,200 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 501 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[Delta Force]

Seeing as the quick firing guns are using single piece ammunition, would it be possible for a 105 mm naval cannon to be able to fire "army" and "navy" shells of 105 mm (assuming the navy shells have longer cases)? Army 105 mm guns had a lower muzzle velocity than naval guns, but it would be useful to have the ability to use such ammunition supplies. If that is not really something possible to do I'll use the 115 mm as the dedicated naval caliber since it is between the 90 mm and 150 mm in shell weight.

[Delta Force]

Here is the current confirmed building schedule for the navy as it stands now. Battlecruisers, large armored cruisers, frigates (armored cruisers with more emphasis on speed over armament), corvettes (fleet scouting/light cruisers), and sloops (escort cruisers) are not listed right now, but I have designs for those. I don't have designs for destroyers or any other ships.

1895 Program (21940 tons out of 38460 tons)
-- BB-1 (A class battleship) = 5960 tons
-- BB-2 (A class battleship) = 5960 tons
-- BB-5 (B class battleship) = 10020 tons

1896 Program (21940 tons out of 38460 tons)
-- BB-3 (A class battleship) = 5960 tons
-- BB-4 (A class battleship) = 5960 tons
-- BB-6 (B class battleship) = 10020 tons

1897 Program (19740 tons out 38640 tons)
-- BB-7 (B class battleship) = 10020 tons
-- CA-1 (A class armored cruiser) = 9860 tons

1898 Program (19740 tons out 38640 tons)
-- BB-8 (B class battleship) = 10020 tons
-- CA-2 (A class armored cruiser) = 9860 tons

1899 Program (9720 tons out 38640 tons)
-- CA-3 (A class armored cruiser) = 9720 tons

1900 Program (9720 tons out 38640 tons)
-- CA-4 (A class armored cruiser) = 9720 tons

1901 Program (21940 tons out 38660 tons)
-- BB-9 (C class battleship) = 12980 tons
-- CA-5 (B class armored cruiser) = 8980 tons

1902 Program (21940 tons out 38660 tons)
-- BB-10 (C class battleship) = 12980 tons
-- CA-6 (B class armored cruiser) = 8980 tons

1903 Program (21940 tons out 38660 tons)
-- BB-11 (C class battleship) = 12980 tons
-- CA-7 (B class armored cruiser) = 8980 tons

1904 Program (21940 tons out 38660 tons)
-- BB-12 (C class battleship) = 12980 tons
-- CA-8 (B class armored cruiser) = 8980 tons

1905 Program (13840 tons out 38640 tons)
-- BB-13 (D class battleship) = 13840 tons

1906 Program (13840 tons out 38640 tons)
-- BB-14 (D class battleship) = 13840 tons

1907 Program (13840 tons out 38640 tons)
-- BB-15 (D class battleship) = 13840 tons

1908 Program (13840 tons out 38640 tons)
-- BB-16 (D class battleship) = 13840 tons

Leftover for 1909: 20 tons

[KWorld]

Seeing as the quick firing guns are using single piece ammunition, would it be possible for a 105 mm naval cannon to be able to fire "army" and "navy" shells of 105 mm (assuming the navy shells have longer cases)? Army 105 mm guns had a lower muzzle velocity than naval guns, but it would be useful to have the ability to use such ammunition supplies. If that is not really something possible to do I'll use the 115 mm as the dedicated naval caliber since it is between the 90 mm and 150 mm in shell weight.

The shells would PROBABLY be compatible, but there's not a lot of need for a Army 105mm single piece round at this point in time: any army 105mms would want to have multiple charges, which isn't really feasible with a one-piece round.

[Delta Force]

This is quite the swift torpedo boat, especially for 1895. It can hit 30 knots and has a fairly decent range to match. A few of these will certainly see service with the green water navy and colonial forces.

Light Torpedo Boat Model 1895v4, Colonial Navy TB laid down 1895

Displacement:
   208 t light; 214 t standard; 250 t normal; 279 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (196.85 ft / 196.85 ft) x 16.40 ft x (7.14 / 7.66 ft)
   (60.00 m / 60.00 m) x 5.00 m  x (2.18 / 2.33 m)

Armament:
      3 - 1.06" / 27.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.55lbs / 0.25kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 2 lbs / 1 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.30" / 8 mm         -               -

   - Conning towers: Forward 0.98" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,781 ihp / 2,820 Kw = 23.75 kts
   Range 220nm at 23.75 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 66 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   30 - 40

Cost:
   £0.029 million / $0.115 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Guns: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 1.4 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 1.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 152 tons, 60.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 52 tons, 20.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 42 tons, 16.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1 tons, 0.3 %
      - On freeboard deck: 1 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     46 lbs / 21 Kg = 76.3 x 1.1 " / 27 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.55
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 8.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.84

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.396
   Length to Beam Ratio: 12.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  9.19 ft / 2.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      5.84 ft / 1.78 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 196.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 65.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,961 Square feet or 182 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 19 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 14 lbs/sq ft or 71 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.76
      - Overall: 0.52
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Adjusted trial speed of 30 knots.

Mount gun armor is 7.5 mm, program rounds it to 8 mm.

Miscellaneous weight:
2 400 mm / 5.6 meter single shot deck mounted fixed torpedo tubes.

[KWorld]

This is quite the swift torpedo boat, especially for 1895. It can hit 30 knots and has a fairly decent range to match. A few of these will certainly see service with the green water navy and colonial forces.

Light Torpedo Boat Model 1895v4, Colonial Navy TB laid down 1895

Displacement:
   208 t light; 214 t standard; 250 t normal; 279 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (196.85 ft / 196.85 ft) x 16.40 ft x (7.14 / 7.66 ft)
   (60.00 m / 60.00 m) x 5.00 m  x (2.18 / 2.33 m)

Armament:
      3 - 1.06" / 27.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.55lbs / 0.25kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
     2 x Single mounts on sides amidships
      Weight of broadside 2 lbs / 1 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.30" / 8 mm         -               -

   - Conning towers: Forward 0.98" / 25 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,781 ihp / 2,820 Kw = 23.75 kts
   Range 220nm at 23.75 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 66 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   30 - 40

Cost:
   £0.029 million / $0.115 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Guns: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 3 tons, 1.4 %
      - Armament: 3 tons, 1.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 1 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 152 tons, 60.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 52 tons, 20.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 42 tons, 16.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1 tons, 0.3 %
      - On freeboard deck: 1 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     46 lbs / 21 Kg = 76.3 x 1.1 " / 27 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.55
   Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 8.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.84

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.396
   Length to Beam Ratio: 12.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  9.19 ft / 2.80 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m,  5.25 ft / 1.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      5.84 ft / 1.78 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 196.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 65.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 1,961 Square feet or 182 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 19 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 14 lbs/sq ft or 71 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.76
      - Overall: 0.52
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Adjusted trial speed of 30 knots.

Mount gun armor is 7.5 mm, program rounds it to 8 mm.

Miscellaneous weight:
2 400 mm / 5.6 meter single shot deck mounted fixed torpedo tubes.

Actually, it's not legal. Why?  Because to make the cut for "small, fast", it has to have a speed of at least 24.0 knots.

[Nobody]

Actually, it's not legal. Why?  Because to make the cut for "small, fast", it has to have a speed of at least 24.0 knots.

Where did you see/read that?

[KWorld]

Actually, it's not legal. Why?  Because to make the cut for "small, fast", it has to have a speed of at least 24.0 knots.

Where did you see/read that?

Came up several weeks ago, see this post and the thread it's in: http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5835.msg76230.html#msg76230.

[Delta Force]

I have three main competitors for my navy's 1905 heavy cruiser design. The first is a large armored cruiser, the second is a semi-dreadnought battlecruiser, and the last one is a Fisherite semi-dreadnought battlecruiser. While the Fisherite design is an excellent scout cruiser design, it really is an eggshell with a hammer. The semi-dreadnought battlecruiser seems to be a very well balanced design as it carries a lot of armor and can be overhauled to go faster once turbines and oil propulsion come out for larger ships. I will probably build the semi-dreadnought battlecruiser and the large armored cruiser, so both the types might evolve together in my navy.

1905 Large Armored Cruiserv2, Colonial Navy CA laid down 1905

Displacement:
   11,599 t light; 12,037 t standard; 13,550 t normal; 14,759 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (498.69 ft / 498.69 ft) x 72.18 ft x (26.90 / 28.69 ft)
   (152.00 m / 152.00 m) x 22.00 m  x (8.20 / 8.74 m)

Armament:
      8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     12 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,179 lbs / 1,442 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   347.77 ft / 106.00 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   150.92 ft / 46.00 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   2nd:   7.87" / 200 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      6.89" / 175 mm
   3rd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 25,634 ihp / 19,123 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 6,900nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,722 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   627 - 816

Cost:
   £1.201 million / $4.805 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 677 tons, 5.0 %
      - Guns: 677 tons, 5.0 %
   Armour: 3,567 tons, 26.3 %
      - Belts: 1,967 tons, 14.5 %
      - Armament: 631 tons, 4.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 872 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 96 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 3,678 tons, 27.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,677 tons, 27.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,951 tons, 14.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,542 lbs / 5,235 Kg = 17.2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
   Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 84 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.31
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.490 / 0.500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.91 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.33 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.27 ft / 4.35 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,761 Square feet or 2,207 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 561 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.43
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

1905 Battlecruiserv2, Colonial Navy CC laid down 1905

Displacement:
   15,109 t light; 15,731 t standard; 17,530 t normal; 18,969 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (590.55 ft / 590.55 ft) x 78.74 ft x (26.90 / 28.54 ft)
   (180.00 m / 180.00 m) x 24.00 m  x (8.20 / 8.70 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 551.16lbs / 250.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     14 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,428 lbs / 2,462 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   393.70 ft / 120.00 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   196.85 ft / 60.00 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   4.92" / 125 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   2nd:   7.87" / 200 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      6.89" / 175 mm
   3rd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 28,561 ihp / 21,307 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 6,900nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,237 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   761 - 990

Cost:
   £1.598 million / $6.392 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,098 tons, 6.3 %
      - Guns: 1,098 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 4,557 tons, 26.0 %
      - Belts: 2,273 tons, 13.0 %
      - Armament: 1,042 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,128 tons, 6.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 114 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 4,098 tons, 23.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,356 tons, 30.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,420 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,265 lbs / 7,378 Kg = 24.3 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
   Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.490 / 0.500
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.30 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m,  14.27 ft / 4.35 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.27 ft / 4.35 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 30,715 Square feet or 2,854 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 659 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.12
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

1905 Battlecruiser Fisherite, Colonial Navy CC laid down 1905

Displacement:
   17,385 t light; 18,057 t standard; 20,000 t normal; 21,554 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (590.55 ft / 590.55 ft) x 78.74 ft x (28.87 / 30.59 ft)
   (180.00 m / 180.00 m) x 24.00 m  x (8.80 / 9.32 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 551.16lbs / 250.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     14 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,428 lbs / 2,462 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   590.55 ft / 180.00 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   4.92" / 125 mm      6.89" / 175 mm
   2nd:   6.89" / 175 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 50,101 ihp / 37,375 Kw = 24.92 kts
   Range 6,900nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,498 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   840 - 1,093

Cost:
   £2.110 million / $8.442 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,098 tons, 5.5 %
      - Guns: 1,098 tons, 5.5 %
   Armour: 3,571 tons, 17.9 %
      - Belts: 1,588 tons, 7.9 %
      - Armament: 931 tons, 4.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 928 tons, 4.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 125 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 7,189 tons, 35.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,527 tons, 27.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,615 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10,385 lbs / 4,710 Kg = 15.5 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.50
   Metacentric height 7.0 ft / 2.1 m
   Roll period: 12.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.521 / 0.530
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.30 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.78 ft / 4.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 138.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 31,597 Square feet or 2,935 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 134 lbs/sq ft or 653 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.12
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room

[KWorld]

Well, the large armored cruiser isn't legal by the rules (4 centerline twin turrets means she'll be able to fire 8 guns on a broadside).  The other two are both battleships by the rules (main guns are larger than 10"), albeit fast battleships.  Nothing I can see wrong with them, both of them are solid enough, though as you say the Fisherite is a bit light on the armor for the size of her main and secondary batteries.  You may want to either raise or lower your casemate batteries, though, so they can fire around the turrets lining the side of the ship.