Colonial Navy

[Delta Force]

I am breaking up the secondaries on my Braunschweig design and there are going to be two groupings for the 6 inch and 3.5 inch guns, but I want to also add four 37 mm guns atop the turrets for shooting at flying creatures. How would a sixth battery be handled?

[Nobody]

I am breaking up the secondaries on my Braunschweig design and there are going to be two groupings for the 6 inch and 3.5 inch guns, but I want to also add four 37 mm guns atop the turrets for shooting at flying creatures. How would a sixth battery be handled?

As long as you use the same mount type, SpringSharp3 supports 2 groups per battery.

[Delta Force]

I am breaking up the secondaries on my Braunschweig design and there are going to be two groupings for the 6 inch and 3.5 inch guns, but I want to also add four 37 mm guns atop the turrets for shooting at flying creatures. How would a sixth battery be handled?

As long as you use the same mount type, SpringSharp3 supports 2 groups per battery.

That would be the issue, they are all various types. I have the main armament, turreted 6 inch guns, casemated 6 inch guns, casemated 3.5 inch guns, and 3.5 inch deck guns. 37 mm deck guns would be the sixth battery.

[Walter]

While I do not have Springsharp around here at work, I believe that if you were to use deckmounts and then set x guns as being below the main deck, then you can have a mix of deck mounts and casemate guns with one entry, although I would have to mess around with it to see if there are any differences...

[KWorld]

It appears to work out as the same, even though the armor weight shown is 1/3 lighter for the casemate vs the deck mount.  The total tonnage in the distribution of weight is the same.

The alternatives that I can see are to either ditch one battery (the casemated 3.5" guns would be my choice) and add the 37mms, or to get the weight of the 37mms and add them as miscellaneous weight.

[Delta Force]

Since I have rather tall main belts anyways (5 meters, two decks), would shortening my end belts be okay (2.5 meters, one deck)? I think my main belts might actually be taller than the freeboard on some of my ships too.

[Nobody]

Since I have rather tall main belts anyways (5 meters, two decks), would shortening my end belts be okay (2.5 meters, one deck)? I think my main belts might actually be taller than the freeboard on some of my ships too.

LOL I didn't notice before, but both your upper and main belt are 5m broad! Since you have 5.5m freeboard (quite a lot for a ship from this time btw) that means you hull is only protected by the upper belt and you main belt is almost entirely underwater. I would probably choose 2.5m upper and 4m main belt for this freeboard.

[Delta Force]

Since I have rather tall main belts anyways (5 meters, two decks), would shortening my end belts be okay (2.5 meters, one deck)? I think my main belts might actually be taller than the freeboard on some of my ships too.

LOL I didn't notice before, but both your upper and main belt are 5m broad! Since you have 5.5m freeboard (quite a lot for a ship from this time btw) that means you hull is only protected by the upper belt and you main belt is almost entirely underwater. I would probably choose 2.5m upper and 4m main belt for this freeboard.

I forgot that these ships are smaller than those of the 1920s and later, so my habits for those ships carried over. What's a good rule of thumb for belt height relative to freeboard since 5 meters is probably going to be too big?

[Jefgte]

IMO

With 5m freeboard,
Upper belt is 2.5m height - one deck & main, belt 3.75m - 0.5 deck under WL .

Jef

[Delta Force]

1895 Coastal Battleshipv2, Colonial Navy BB laid down 1895



Displacement:
   5,192 t light; 5,425 t standard; 5,830 t normal; 6,155 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (328.08 ft / 328.08 ft) x 56.59 ft x (20.57 / 21.45 ft)
   (100.00 m / 100.00 m) x 17.25 m  x (6.27 / 6.54 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     14 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      14 raised mounts
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2,043 lbs / 927 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.45" / 240 mm   212.27 ft / 64.70 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   4.92" / 125 mm   115.81 ft / 35.30 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.45" / 240 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 5,276 ihp / 3,936 Kw = 16.00 kts
   Range 2,400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 730 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   333 - 433

Cost:
   £0.469 million / $1.877 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 408 tons, 7.0 %
      - Guns: 408 tons, 7.0 %
   Armour: 2,271 tons, 39.0 %
      - Belts: 1,344 tons, 23.1 %
      - Armament: 392 tons, 6.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 469 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 66 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 894 tons, 15.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,618 tons, 27.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 638 tons, 10.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,897 lbs / 3,128 Kg = 16.4 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 13.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.534 / 0.541
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.11 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 71.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,771 Square feet or 1,186 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 494 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Edit: Changed to triple shaft design like the others, providing a redundant shaft for safety. Picture added.

[Delta Force]

1895 Battleshipv2, Colonial Navy BB laid down 1895



Displacement:
   8,539 t light; 8,945 t standard; 10,020 t normal; 10,879 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (410.11 ft / 410.11 ft) x 66.93 ft x (25.92 / 27.57 ft)
   (125.00 m / 125.00 m) x 20.40 m  x (7.90 / 8.40 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1895 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     12 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,959 lbs / 1,342 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   265.26 ft / 80.85 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   4.92" / 125 mm   144.85 ft / 44.15 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      2.95" / 75 mm
   3rd:   5.91" / 150 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.45" / 240 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 10,619 ihp / 7,922 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 4,800nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,934 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   499 - 650

Cost:
   £0.780 million / $3.119 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 602 tons, 6.0 %
      - Guns: 602 tons, 6.0 %
   Armour: 3,294 tons, 32.9 %
      - Belts: 1,885 tons, 18.8 %
      - Armament: 647 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 667 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 95 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,800 tons, 18.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,843 tons, 28.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,480 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     12,334 lbs / 5,595 Kg = 29.2 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
   Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.52

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.493 / 0.503
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.13 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m,  9.84 ft / 3.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.78 ft / 4.20 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,171 Square feet or 1,688 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 568 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.97
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Edit: Picture added.

[Delta Force]

1901 Battleship Heavy Secondary, Colonial Navy BB laid down 1901



Displacement:
   11,247 t light; 11,834 t standard; 12,980 t normal; 13,896 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (418.96 ft / 418.96 ft) x 72.83 ft x (26.57 / 28.07 ft)
   (127.70 m / 127.70 m) x 22.20 m  x (8.10 / 8.55 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 551.16lbs / 250.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1901 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1901 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      6 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     6 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      8 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1901 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      Weight of broadside 4,850 lbs / 2,200 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   271.00 ft / 82.60 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   4.92" / 125 mm   147.93 ft / 45.09 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   271.00 ft / 82.60 m   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   9.45" / 240 mm   4.92" / 125 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   3rd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.81" / 300 mm, Aft 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12,674 ihp / 9,455 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 4,800nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,061 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   607 - 790

Cost:
   £1.069 million / $4.275 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 960 tons, 7.4 %
      - Guns: 960 tons, 7.4 %
   Armour: 4,810 tons, 37.1 %
      - Belts: 2,534 tons, 19.5 %
      - Armament: 880 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,184 tons, 9.1 %
      - Conning Towers: 211 tons, 1.6 %
   Machinery: 1,950 tons, 15.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,520 tons, 27.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,733 tons, 13.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7 tons, 0.1 %
      - Above deck: 7 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     17,011 lbs / 7,716 Kg = 25.4 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 13.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.78

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.568
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.47 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 42
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 21,501 Square feet or 1,997 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 614 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

7 ton miscellaneous weight includes four 37 mm guns (1 ton total) with 20 mm shields (5 tons) and 500 0.50 kg rounds per gun (1 ton). Both main gun turrets have two guns atop them.

Edit: Picture added.

[Delta Force]

This is a Radetzky inspired design.

1905 Battleship, Colonial Navy BB laid down 1905



Displacement:
   12,214 t light; 12,762 t standard; 13,840 t normal; 14,702 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (451.12 ft / 451.12 ft) x 80.71 ft x (26.57 / 27.82 ft)
   (137.50 m / 137.50 m) x 24.60 m  x (8.10 / 8.48 m)

Armament:
      4 - 11.02" / 280 mm 40.0 cal guns - 551.16lbs / 250.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     14 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5,428 lbs / 2,462 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   291.99 ft / 89.00 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   4.92" / 125 mm   159.12 ft / 48.50 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      9.45" / 240 mm
   2nd:   9.45" / 240 mm   4.92" / 125 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   3rd:   2.95" / 75 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 2.95" / 75 mm  Quarter deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 12,748 ihp / 9,510 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 4,800nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,940 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   637 - 829

Cost:
   £1.179 million / $4.716 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,098 tons, 7.9 %
      - Guns: 1,098 tons, 7.9 %
   Armour: 4,890 tons, 35.3 %
      - Belts: 2,100 tons, 15.2 %
      - Armament: 1,331 tons, 9.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,337 tons, 9.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 122 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,829 tons, 13.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,396 tons, 31.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,626 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18,996 lbs / 8,616 Kg = 28.4 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 14.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.65

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.501 / 0.508
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.59 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.24 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   25.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 24,272 Square feet or 2,255 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 691 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.14
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Edit: 37 mm guns added, I accidentally forgot to add them to this design. Picture added.

[Delta Force]

These battleships seem to be several thousand tons smaller than those of other navies. Are there any glaring design flaws with them that I haven't noticed, or are these good as far as economical designs go?

[Delta Force]

A Furst Bismarck inspired design.

1897 Heavy Cruiserv3, Colonial Navy CA laid down 1897



Displacement:
   8,199 t light; 8,579 t standard; 9,720 t normal; 10,633 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (416.67 ft / 416.67 ft) x 66.93 ft x (25.59 / 27.35 ft)
   (127.00 m / 127.00 m) x 20.40 m  x (7.80 / 8.34 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 40.0 cal guns - 363.76lbs / 165.00kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 88.18lbs / 40.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      4 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      6 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     6 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.10lbs / 0.50kg shells, 500 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2,738 lbs / 1,242 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   271.98 ft / 82.90 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   144.69 ft / 44.10 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      6.89" / 175 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -               -
   3rd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm  Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 15,387 ihp / 11,479 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 5,400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,054 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   489 - 636

Cost:
   £0.834 million / $3.336 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 509 tons, 5.2 %
      - Guns: 509 tons, 5.2 %
   Armour: 2,547 tons, 26.2 %
      - Belts: 1,400 tons, 14.4 %
      - Armament: 402 tons, 4.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 668 tons, 6.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 77 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 2,522 tons, 26.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,621 tons, 27.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,520 tons, 15.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,509 lbs / 4,313 Kg = 22.5 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.51
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 12.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.477 / 0.488
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.41 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   50.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Aft deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 93.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,197 Square feet or 1,691 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 524 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.83
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Edit: I decided to reduce coal reserves to be sufficient for 3 days of steaming at full power instead of 4. It would be hard for a ship using triple expansion engines to sustain such a speed, and my cruisers were becoming quite large from the demands of carrying that much coal. I also changed the freeboard to make it flat decked. Picture added.