Columbiad Republic Fleet

[KWorld]

Heh, since I don't have a country name yet, I'll call it the Unknown fleet.  :)

[KWorld]

An old battleship design, of classic A-X layout with turreted secondaries in turrets, casemated tertiaries, and some Hotchkiss-style rotary guns.

BB-1, Unknown Battleship laid down 1895

Displacement:
   13,519 t light; 14,405 t standard; 14,984 t normal; 15,447 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (501.97 ft / 492.13 ft) x 72.18 ft x (24.61 / 25.23 ft)
   (153.00 m / 150.00 m) x 22.00 m  x (7.50 / 7.69 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 40.0 cal guns - 829.71lbs / 376.35kg shells, 80 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 8.86" / 225 mm 40.0 cal guns - 333.10lbs / 151.09kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      14 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      20 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 2,000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x 5-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,399 lbs / 3,356 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.487 t each, 1.946 t total
   submerged side tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      12 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.487 t each, 5.839 t total
   below water reloads

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   295.28 ft / 90.00 m   13.94 ft / 4.25 m
   Ends:   7.87" / 200 mm   196.82 ft / 59.99 m   13.94 ft / 4.25 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm     98.43 ft / 30.00 m   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
     Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   9.84" / 250 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   9.45" / 240 mm   7.09" / 180 mm      7.87" / 200 mm
   3rd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.60" / 320 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,825 ihp / 8,076 Kw = 17.00 kts
   Range 2,750nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,042 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   676 - 880

Cost:
   £1.287 million / $5.148 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,255 tons, 8.4 %
      - Guns: 1,243 tons, 8.3 %
      - Weapons: 11 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 5,632 tons, 37.6 %
      - Belts: 3,235 tons, 21.6 %
      - Armament: 1,556 tons, 10.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 572 tons, 3.8 %
      - Conning Towers: 268 tons, 1.8 %
   Machinery: 1,835 tons, 12.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,798 tons, 32.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,465 tons, 9.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,943 lbs / 7,685 Kg = 19.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 6.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 15.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.64
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.82 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  22.15 ft / 6.75 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m,  18.86 ft / 5.75 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  10.66 ft / 3.25 m,  10.66 ft / 3.25 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.66 ft / 3.25 m,  10.66 ft / 3.25 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.22 ft / 4.34 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 25,979 Square feet or 2,414 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 718 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.33
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[KWorld]

An older cruiser, armed with 150mm guns and, again, 35mm rotaries.  The 150mms do have the downside that they're deck mounts, so once the ready ammunition is exhausted, the rate of fire will drop rather severely.


Unk-C98, Unknown Unk-C98 laid down 1898

Displacement:
   3,461 t light; 3,625 t standard; 4,005 t normal; 4,308 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (400.26 ft / 393.70 ft) x 45.93 ft x (14.76 / 15.63 ft)
   (122.00 m / 120.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (4.50 / 4.76 m)

Armament:
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      20 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 1,200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     4 x 5-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 820 lbs / 372 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      1 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedo - 0.540 t total
   submerged bow tube
      2nd Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.540 t each, 2.159 t total
   below water reloads

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   1.97" / 50 mm   393.70 ft / 120.00 m   5.91 ft / 1.80 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13,020 ihp / 9,713 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 683 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   251 - 327

Cost:
   £0.441 million / $1.763 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 116 tons, 2.9 %
      - Guns: 112 tons, 2.8 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 187 tons, 4.7 %
      - Belts: 169 tons, 4.2 %
      - Armament: 18 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,032 tons, 50.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,126 tons, 28.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 543 tons, 13.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,723 lbs / 782 Kg = 16.7 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.83
   Metacentric height 4.1 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 9.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.12
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.534
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.33 ft / 6.50 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m,  8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.88 ft / 3.62 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 174.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,329 Square feet or 1,145 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 85 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 319 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.14
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[KWorld]

And a torpedo boat.

Unk-TB02, Unknown Unk-TB02 laid down 1902

Displacement:
   427 t light; 440 t standard; 472 t normal; 498 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (214.69 ft / 213.25 ft) x 19.69 ft x (9.84 / 10.19 ft)
   (65.44 m / 65.00 m) x 6.00 m  x (3.00 / 3.11 m)

Armament:
      3 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 10.03lbs / 4.55kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1,200 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 14 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m torpedoes - 0.739 t each, 2.954 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,205 shp / 8,359 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 59 tons (90% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   49 - 65

Cost:
   £0.059 million / $0.234 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 11 tons, 2.4 %
      - Guns: 5 tons, 1.1 %
      - Weapons: 6 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 301 tons, 63.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 114 tons, 24.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 45 tons, 9.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     78 lbs / 35 Kg = 7.4 x 2.8 " / 70 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
   Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.92

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.407
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.15 ft / 2.79 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 209.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 54.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,584 Square feet or 240 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 13 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 97 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.36
      - Overall: 0.59
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

[KWorld]

And a gunboat, though given the lack of natives, I'm not totally sure that "colonial gunboats" have a role.

Unk-GB, Unknown Gunboat laid down 1899

Displacement:
   813 t light; 850 t standard; 953 t normal; 1,036 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 29.53 ft x (9.84 / 10.48 ft)
   (70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 9.00 m  x (3.00 / 3.19 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.91" / 150 mm 40.0 cal guns - 100.31lbs / 45.50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      20 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 1200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x 5-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 227 lbs / 103 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   0.98" / 25 mm   229.66 ft / 70.00 m   5.00 ft / 1.53 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2,362 ihp / 1,762 Kw = 17.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 185 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   85 - 111

Cost:
   £0.089 million / $0.357 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 33 tons, 3.5 %
      - Guns: 33 tons, 3.5 %
   Armour: 46 tons, 4.8 %
      - Belts: 42 tons, 4.4 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 363 tons, 38.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 270 tons, 28.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 141 tons, 14.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 10.5 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     572 lbs / 259 Kg = 5.6 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.56
   Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 9.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.56

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.510
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.78 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m,  13.94 ft / 4.25 m
      - Aft deck:   50.00 %,  5.74 ft / 1.75 m,  5.74 ft / 1.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  5.74 ft / 1.75 m,  5.74 ft / 1.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.81 ft / 2.69 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 145.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 77.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,518 Square feet or 420 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 202 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.69
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

[KWorld]

And an armored cruiser....

Unk-AC00, Unknown Unk-AC00 laid down 1900

Displacement:
   10,439 t light; 10,977 t standard; 11,747 t normal; 12,363 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (465.88 ft / 459.32 ft) x 59.06 ft x (27.56 / 28.70 ft)
   (142.00 m / 140.00 m) x 18.00 m  x (8.40 / 8.75 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.84" / 250 mm 45.0 cal guns - 480.81lbs / 218.09kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1900 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      14 - 5.91" / 150 mm 45.0 cal guns - 103.86lbs / 47.11kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1900 Model
     14 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in all but light seas
      20 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 2,000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1895 Model
     4 x 5-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      4 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,404 lbs / 1,544 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.579 t each, 2.318 t total
   submerged side tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      12 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.579 t each, 6.954 t total
   below water reloads

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   377.30 ft / 115.00 m   10.66 ft / 3.25 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm     81.99 ft / 24.99 m   10.66 ft / 3.25 m
   Upper:   3.94" / 100 mm   377.30 ft / 115.00 m   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
     Main Belt covers 126 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.6" / 270 mm   7.09" / 180 mm      9.84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   3.94" / 100 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1.18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24,335 ihp / 18,154 Kw = 22.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,387 tons (95% coal)

Complement:
   563 - 733

Cost:
   £1.145 million / $4.582 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 665 tons, 5.7 %
      - Guns: 652 tons, 5.5 %
      - Weapons: 13 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 3,237 tons, 27.6 %
      - Belts: 1,901 tons, 16.2 %
      - Armament: 540 tons, 4.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 643 tons, 5.5 %
      - Conning Towers: 153 tons, 1.3 %
   Machinery: 3,783 tons, 32.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,753 tons, 23.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,308 tons, 11.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,120 lbs / 2,776 Kg = 12.8 x 9.8 " / 250 mm shells or 2.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 66 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.556
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.78 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.82 ft / 6.65 m,  17.22 ft / 5.25 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  17.22 ft / 5.25 m,  17.22 ft / 5.25 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  9.02 ft / 2.75 m,  9.02 ft / 2.75 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.02 ft / 2.75 m,  9.02 ft / 2.75 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.67 ft / 3.86 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 73.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,930 Square feet or 1,759 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 104 lbs/sq ft or 507 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.50
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room

Note: the 35mm guns are similar to the multi-barrel Hotchkiss revolving guns.

[Carthaginian]

First, let me say Welcome!
Second- solid ships which I'll look over in greater detail after work tonight (and which others sill take apart rivet by rivet while I am gone, no doubt), but they look rules-compliant overall.
Looking forward to seeing more... just remember, you have to start your fleet in 1895 and 1/3 of your total tonnage should come from before 1900. ;)

[KWorld]

Looking forward to seeing more... just remember, you have to start your fleet in 1895 and 1/3 of your total tonnage should come from before 1900. ;)

The last sentence is a little surprising, because I didn't notice anything like that in the rules.  Conceptually, I was thinking of a nation like the US or Germany, that went from a coast-defence navy with a few long-range cruisers to a blue-water navy over the period in question.   But tonnage-wise, it wouldn't have fallen out to 1/3 1895-1900, 1/3 1901-1905, and 1/3 1906-1910.

[Carthaginian]

While it isn't explicitly stated in the rules, we do expect people to have something of an investment in their navies prior to 1900. The United States ballooned PRIOR to1900, not after... the same with Germany. In fact, it was 1.) the rapid growth of smaller fleets in the late 1800's and 2.) the proof of the success of long-range naval gunfire at Tsushima which lead to the British building dreadnoughts anyway.
The United States Navy's battleline quadrupled in size from two ships (Texas and Maine) in 1890 to 8 ships at sea in 1900 with two more Illinois to arrive in 1901. I can think of times that more ships were laid down and commissioned, but I can't think of any time of larger proportional growth.

Additionally, our navies are all established at this time. We are all in possession of British-sized fleets with British sized development. Our navies are not rapidly increasing, but steadily.
If this must be placed into official rules, it will be done... but I prefer to not have to rule EVERYTHING into being. If you want a large coast defense navy initially, that's fine... but no one is going to save the lion's share of their tonnage for ships that are brand new at the start of the sim.

[KWorld]

And an older TB....

Unk-TB97, Unknown Torpedo boat laid down 1897

Displacement:
   384 t light; 394 t standard; 418 t normal; 437 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (198.14 ft / 196.85 ft) x 18.86 ft x (9.84 / 10.13 ft)
   (60.39 m / 60.00 m) x 5.75 m  x (3.00 / 3.09 m)

Armament:
      2 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 10.03lbs / 4.55kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1,200 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1897 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 20 lbs / 9 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      3 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m torpedoes - 0.521 t each, 1.564 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,972 ihp / 8,185 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 1,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 42 tons (100% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   46 - 60

Cost:
   £0.052 million / $0.209 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 7 tons, 1.6 %
      - Guns: 4 tons, 0.9 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 270 tons, 64.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 107 tons, 25.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 34 tons, 8.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     69 lbs / 31 Kg = 6.6 x 2.8 " / 70 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
   Roll period: 10.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.85

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.406
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.43 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 71 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Forward deck:   10.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Aft deck:   55.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.02 ft / 2.75 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 210.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 53.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 2,286 Square feet or 212 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 12 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 98 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 2.89
      - Overall: 0.60
   Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

[KWorld]

While it isn't explicitly stated in the rules, we do expect people to have something of an investment in their navies prior to 1900. The United States ballooned PRIOR to1900, not after... the same with Germany. In fact, it was 1.) the rapid growth of smaller fleets in the late 1800's and 2.) the proof of the success of long-range naval gunfire at Tsushima which lead to the British building dreadnoughts anyway.
The United States Navy's battleline quadrupled in size from two ships (Texas and Maine) in 1890 to 8 ships at sea in 1900 with two more Illinois to arrive in 1901. I can think of times that more ships were laid down and commissioned, but I can't think of any time of larger proportional growth.

Additionally, our navies are all established at this time. We are all in possession of British-sized fleets with British sized development. Our navies are not rapidly increasing, but steadily.
If this must be placed into official rules, it will be done... but I prefer to not have to rule EVERYTHING into being. If you want a large coast defense navy initially, that's fine... but no one is going to save the lion's share of their tonnage for ships that are brand new at the start of the sim.

If you have rules, they should be stated, otherwise people who don't know them will run afoul of them without meaning to.


The German navy really ballooned after 1900: in 1900, they only had 6 commissioned BBs (and calling the Kaiser Fredrich II class BBs, with their 24cm main battery, was a bit of a stretch at the time).  By 1910, of course, they had 28 BBs (counting the Kaiser Fredrich's) and 1 BC.


Anyway, I was figuring to have the period 1895-1899 be one of the periodic "down" funding periods for the navy, with a turn-up starting in 1900.  Doesn't mean there wouldn't be old ships, or that all the fleet dates from 1908 (far from it), but I wasn't planning an evenly-growing fleet.

[Carthaginian]

There is no tonnage reserved for the torpedoes. :(
The tubes won't do a whole lot of good by themselves. ;)

About to leave for work... keep it up and let's see what ya got :D

If you have rules, they should be stated, otherwise people who don't know them will run afoul of them without meaning to.

So far, we have been dealing with a lot of people who have been here before.
You're the first truly new person who has applied to play. :-[
There are some things that are being discussed that haven't been codified as yet... and there will be more. Be on the lookout for that kind of thing, and point out if you notice something that is missing. Many of the people here know the intent of the rules already, some sometimes we forget to explain.

[snip]

And may I extend another welcome from the egghead behind the econ rules. Please also take a look over those and see if there is anything that jumps out as wrong or confusing. I have been meaning to post an updated version, but have had a bit much on my plate from school.

[KWorld]

There is no tonnage reserved for the torpedoes. :(
The tubes won't do a whole lot of good by themselves. ;).

Actually, there is: the tubes are listed as weighing 1.5 tons in the Armaments section, while in the Distribution of Weights section, the Weapons are listed as weighing 3 tons.  1.5 tons might seem a bit light for 3 torpedoes, but these are old, short torps, very comparable to the US "Long" Whitehead 18" (45 cm) Mark 1, which weighed 1,160 lbs. (526 kg).  :)

[Carthaginian]

SS3 doesn't actually allow for those weights, though... That part of the program is broken. You must manually account for the weight in the Misc Weights section yourself for the torpedoes to be included. That is stated in the rules thread... Which will be cleaned up a bit when I get some mod powerd.