Nova Francia Fleet

Jefgte · June 01, 2012, 07:17:43 AM

I prefer a high and aggressive bow, not a low bow, which raises the water on deck. The fore gun/turret is protected by a breakwater whose effect is accentuated by the lower deck.

Jef

Jefgte · June 01, 2012, 07:36:50 AM

EC2 with the bow modified.

Superstructures are perhaps heavy...

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Jef

Jefgte · June 05, 2012, 05:13:23 AM

TB2, Nova Francia TB2-500t laid down 1899

Displacement:
   436 t light; 451 t standard; 500 t normal; 539 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (230.00 ft / 228.00 ft) x 23.30 ft x (8.23 / 8.65 ft)
   (70.10 m / 69.49 m) x 7.10 m x (2.51 / 2.64 m)

Armament:
3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.96lbs / 5.88kg shells, 210 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
Weight of broadside 39 lbs / 18 kg
Main Torpedoes
4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 18.00 ft / 5.49 m torpedoes - 0.609 t each, 2.436 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   0.60" / 15 mm     8.00 ft / 2.44 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     220.00 ft / 67.06 m Unarmoured ends

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -
   2nd:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7 577 ihp / 5 652 Kw = 25.50 kts
   Range 1 400nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 88 tons (90% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   52 - 68

Cost:
   £0.059 million / $0.236 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 13 tons, 2.5 %
     - Guns: 8 tons, 1.5 %
     - Weapons: 5 tons, 1.0 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 1.0 %
     - Belts: 1 tons, 0.2 %
     - Armament: 4 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 298 tons, 59.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 114 tons, 22.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 64 tons, 12.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 1.2 %
     - On freeboard deck: 6 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     111 lbs / 50 Kg = 8.6 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.43
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.410
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.79 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.10 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   19.00 %, 12.80 ft / 3.90 m, 10.18 ft / 3.10 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 10.18 ft / 3.10 m, 8.19 ft / 2.50 m
     - Aft deck:   31.00 %, 8.19 ft / 2.50 m, 7.88 ft / 2.40 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 7.88 ft / 2.40 m, 7.88 ft / 2.40 m
     - Average freeboard:      8.96 ft / 2.73 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 196.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 270 Square feet or 304 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 21 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 98 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.31
      - Overall: 0.55
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Jefgte · June 07, 2012, 06:02:43 PM

The 2 last class of BBs for Nova Francia.
BB4 is a kind of Danton but with 4T2x240 only.
BB5 is the maxmum battleship with 3T2x12" AQY
Note the powerful secondary armament composed by 8T2x164mm & 16x100 to receive TBs.
The speed required for these 4 BBs is 21kts & the NF range 5000nm@12kts.
Classic protection:
B230/150
T300/150
D65/40

BB4, Nova Francia BB4 laid down 1904

Displacement:
   16 447 t light; 17 411 t standard; 18 800 t normal; 19 911 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (497.00 ft / 492.00 ft) x 78.75 ft x (27.39 / 28.74 ft)
   (151.49 m / 149.96 m) x 24.00 m x (8.35 / 8.76 m)

Armament:
4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 50.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 - 5.50" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 83.91lbs / 38.06kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 3.59lbs / 1.63kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 8 439 lbs / 3 828 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.05" / 230 mm   341.20 ft / 104.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   5.90" / 150 mm   101.70 ft / 31.00 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     49.10 ft / 14.97 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.90" / 150 mm   341.20 ft / 104.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.90" / 150 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   6.70" / 170 mm   3.95" / 100 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   3rd:   1.95" / 50 mm     -         1.95" / 50 mm
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11.02" / 280 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 27 798 ihp / 20 737 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 500 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   802 - 1 043

Cost:
   £1.892 million / $7.567 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 045 tons, 10.9 %
     - Guns: 2 045 tons, 10.9 %
   Armour: 5 240 tons, 27.9 %
     - Belts: 2 402 tons, 12.8 %
     - Armament: 1 282 tons, 6.8 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 268 tons, 6.7 %
     - Conning Towers: 288 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 4 047 tons, 21.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 024 tons, 26.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 353 tons, 12.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 92 tons, 0.5 %
     - Hull below water: 8 tons
     - Hull above water: 4 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
     - Above deck: 40 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15 855 lbs / 7 192 Kg = 18.4 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 15.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.36

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.620 / 0.626
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   15.00 %, 18.05 ft / 5.50 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Aft deck:   35.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Average freeboard:      17.13 ft / 5.22 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 28 870 Square feet or 2 682 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 149 lbs/sq ft or 729 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.81
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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BB5, Nova Francia BB5 laid down 1906

Displacement:
   17 493 t light; 18 450 t standard; 19 850 t normal; 20 970 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (514.52 ft / 513.52 ft) x 80.70 ft x (27.04 / 28.31 ft)
   (156.83 m / 156.52 m) x 24.60 m x (8.24 / 8.63 m)

Armament:
4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1906 Model
     1 x 2 row twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
16 - 6.45" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.32lbs / 61.38kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model
     8 x 2 row twin mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 3.59lbs / 1.63kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 7 919 lbs / 3 592 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.05" / 230 mm   334.65 ft / 102.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   5.90" / 150 mm   141.70 ft / 43.19 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     37.17 ft / 11.33 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.90" / 150 mm   334.65 ft / 102.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.90" / 150 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.90" / 150 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   6.70" / 170 mm   3.95" / 100 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -
   5th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11.02" / 280 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 28 334 ihp / 21 137 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 521 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   836 - 1 087

Cost:
   £1.892 million / $7.569 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 857 tons, 9.4 %
     - Guns: 1 857 tons, 9.4 %
   Armour: 5 871 tons, 29.6 %
     - Belts: 2 454 tons, 12.4 %
     - Armament: 1 780 tons, 9.0 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 338 tons, 6.7 %
     - Conning Towers: 298 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 4 008 tons, 20.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 641 tons, 28.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 357 tons, 11.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 116 tons, 0.6 %
     - Hull below water: 12 tons
     - Hull above water: 4 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
     - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19 096 lbs / 8 662 Kg = 22.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 15.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.37

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.620 / 0.626
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.36 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.66 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   20.00 %, 18.05 ft / 5.50 m, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m
     - Aft deck:   30.00 %, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m, 17.05 ft / 5.20 m
     - Average freeboard:      17.13 ft / 5.22 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 120.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 30 879 Square feet or 2 869 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 152 lbs/sq ft or 743 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

KWorld · June 07, 2012, 06:52:53 PM

AQY with turreted secondaries isn't legal, I don't think, the secondaries on AQY ships have to be casemates (at least at game-start). That's my understanding of the rules, anyway.

snip · June 07, 2012, 07:54:38 PM

Quote from: KWorld on June 07, 2012, 06:52:53 PM
AQY with turreted secondaries isn't legal, I don't think, the secondaried on AQY ships have to be casemates (at least at game-start). That's my understanding of the rules, anyway.

You would be correct, but deck mounts with no hoists are legal as well.

Nobody · June 08, 2012, 12:54:47 AM

Jef, I'm curious why are you using "2 row twin mounts"? That would mean the barrels are on top of each other - I think.

Jefgte · June 08, 2012, 01:47:23 AM

Quote...the secondaried on AQY ships have to be casemates ...

No problemo, I change T2x164 to casemates.
(But for the drawing, 2T2 back to back would be original. Casemates are too classic.)

Quote...why are you using "2 row twin mounts"? ...

Bad SS choice for T2
"Twin mount" is certainly correct.

Jef

Jefgte · June 10, 2012, 09:55:11 AM

Quote
Quote

...the secondaried on AQY ships have to be casemates ...

No problemo, I change T2x164 to casemates.
(But for the drawing, 2T2 back to back would be original. Casemates are too classic.)

>:( Problemo in the logical tonnage progression for the BBs plan.

I don't understand why we could'nt have:
1904 BB with 2T2x12"+4T2x240 & 1906 BB with 3T2x12"+4T2x240
just add 1T2x12" !!!

I could not built my plan, I must rework again& find an other logical progression...

>:( >:( >:(

Jefgte · June 10, 2012, 05:25:06 PM

Ok, I reject the Danton styl BB with T2x240/50cal shell 220kg.
I adopt an other concept with 2 "bridge castle" fore & aft with 194mm in casemates around.

BB4 - 2T2x305+16x194 - 17600t
BB5 - 3T2x305+16x194 - 19500t

BB4, Nova Francia BB4 laid down 1904

Displacement:
   15 344 t light; 16 267 t standard; 17 600 t normal; 18 667 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (497.00 ft / 492.00 ft) x 78.75 ft x (26.50 / 27.82 ft)
   (151.49 m / 149.96 m) x 24.00 m x (8.08 / 8.48 m)

Armament:
4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
16 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.75lbs / 102.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
     16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
16 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
8 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 7 621 lbs / 3 457 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   321.52 ft / 98.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
   Ends:   5.90" / 150 mm   151.00 ft / 46.02 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     19.48 ft / 5.94 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.90" / 150 mm   321.52 ft / 98.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.90" / 150 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   3.95" / 100 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.95" / 100 mm
   3rd:   1.95" / 50 mm     -           -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -
   5th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11.02" / 280 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 26 537 ihp / 19 797 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 400 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   763 - 993

Cost:
   £1.599 million / $6.395 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 372 tons, 7.8 %
     - Guns: 1 372 tons, 7.8 %
   Armour: 5 272 tons, 30.0 %
     - Belts: 2 755 tons, 15.7 %
     - Armament: 997 tons, 5.7 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 244 tons, 7.1 %
     - Conning Towers: 275 tons, 1.6 %
   Machinery: 3 864 tons, 22.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 744 tons, 27.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 256 tons, 12.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 92 tons, 0.5 %
     - Hull below water: 8 tons
     - Hull above water: 4 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 40 tons
     - Above deck: 40 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18 141 lbs / 8 229 Kg = 21.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.606
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   15.00 %, 18.05 ft / 5.50 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Aft deck:   35.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Average freeboard:      17.13 ft / 5.22 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 120.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 28 337 Square feet or 2 633 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 663 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.79
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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BB5, Nova Francia BB5 laid down 1906

Displacement:
   17 060 t light; 18 117 t standard; 19 500 t normal; 20 606 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (517.50 ft / 512.50 ft) x 82.02 ft x (27.06 / 28.32 ft)
   (157.73 m / 156.21 m) x 25.00 m x (8.25 / 8.63 m)

Armament:
6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1906 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
16 - 7.65" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 225.75lbs / 102.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1906 Model
     16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
16 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.09lbs / 14.10kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 raised mounts
8 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
8 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
     4 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 9 364 lbs / 4 247 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.0" / 280 mm   334.65 ft / 102.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
   Ends:   5.90" / 150 mm   151.00 ft / 46.02 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     26.85 ft / 8.18 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.90" / 150 mm   334.65 ft / 102.00 m   10.50 ft / 3.20 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   5.90" / 150 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   3.95" / 100 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.95" / 100 mm
   3rd:   1.95" / 50 mm     -           -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -
   5th:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.55" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 11.02" / 280 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 27 912 ihp / 20 822 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 489 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   824 - 1 072

Cost:
   £1.833 million / $7.333 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 540 tons, 7.9 %
     - Guns: 1 540 tons, 7.9 %
   Armour: 5 856 tons, 30.0 %
     - Belts: 2 858 tons, 14.7 %
     - Armament: 1 353 tons, 6.9 %
     - Armour Deck: 1 350 tons, 6.9 %
     - Conning Towers: 295 tons, 1.5 %
   Machinery: 3 948 tons, 20.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 604 tons, 28.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 440 tons, 12.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 112 tons, 0.6 %
     - Hull below water: 8 tons
     - Hull above water: 4 tons
     - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
     - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19 869 lbs / 9 012 Kg = 23.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
   Metacentric height 5.9 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.47

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.606
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.64 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   15.00 %, 18.05 ft / 5.50 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Aft deck:   35.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m, 17.07 ft / 5.20 m
     - Average freeboard:      17.13 ft / 5.22 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 121.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 30 744 Square feet or 2 856 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 146 lbs/sq ft or 713 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.71
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Jefgte · June 11, 2012, 06:40:38 AM

BB5 reduce to 19400t.
Total Nova Francia Fleet: 499 970t

Jef ;)

Jefgte · June 19, 2012, 07:22:55 AM

TB3 class completed with misc weight

TB3, Nova Francia TB3-500t laid down 1904

Displacement:
   421 t light; 436 t standard; 500 t normal; 550 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (230.00 ft / 228.00 ft) x 23.30 ft x (8.23 / 8.77 ft)
   (70.10 m / 69.49 m) x 7.10 m x (2.51 / 2.67 m)

Armament:
3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.96lbs / 5.88kg shells, 210 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
4 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
Weight of broadside 39 lbs / 18 kg

Armour:
- Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   0.60" / 15 mm     8.00 ft / 2.44 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     220.00 ft / 67.06 m Unarmoured ends

- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -
   2nd:   0.40" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 973 ihp / 5 201 Kw = 25.00 kts
   Range 2 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 114 tons (90% coal)
     Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
   52 - 68

Cost:
   £0.058 million / $0.230 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 8 tons, 1.5 %
     - Guns: 8 tons, 1.5 %
   Armour: 5 tons, 1.0 %
     - Belts: 1 tons, 0.2 %
     - Armament: 4 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 291 tons, 58.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 105 tons, 21.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 79 tons, 15.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 2.4 %
     - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     112 lbs / 51 Kg = 8.7 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.51
   Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 9.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.79 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.10 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
     - Forecastle:   15.00 %, 12.05 ft / 3.67 m, 12.05 ft / 3.67 m
     - Forward deck:   30.00 %, 8.05 ft / 2.45 m, 8.05 ft / 2.45 m
     - Aft deck:   35.00 %, 8.05 ft / 2.45 m, 8.05 ft / 2.45 m
     - Quarter deck:   20.00 %, 8.05 ft / 2.45 m, 8.05 ft / 2.45 m
     - Average freeboard:      8.65 ft / 2.64 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 192.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 3 270 Square feet or 304 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 93 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 1.15
      - Overall: 0.54
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Misc weight : 12 t

4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 18.45 ft / 5.62 m torpedoes - 0.750 t each , 3 t total
in 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes.

4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 18.45ft / 5.62 m torpedoes - 0.750 t each , 3 t total
in 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tube under fore deck

16 - 500lb : 226kg mines - 4t total
Above water - Stern rack : rails

2 - 1t life boat - 2 t total

KWorld · June 19, 2012, 08:03:04 AM

When I generate a Springsharp for 4 450mm/5.62m torpedoes, I get (in the Distribution of weights section) a weight of 6 tons, not 3 tons. The torps themselves might weigh 2.779 tons (as shown on the Weapons page), but there's also the tubes, sights, crew & quarters, etc.

Jefgte · June 19, 2012, 08:17:58 AM

Ok, that's not 2.985t under lenght value...

Rework Jef

Thanks KW :D

KWorld · June 19, 2012, 08:42:36 AM

I wouldn't have noticed this, but since I use 2 twin 450mm/6m tubes on my TBs, I remembered that they seemed to weigh more than 3 tons, so I went and checked my design. Yep, 6 tons.