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December 29, 2011, 09:18:36 AM Last Edit: December 29, 2011, 10:13:50 AM by Jefgte
Inspired by the plans of BB Courbet & BB Bretagne, the first Battleships are smaller to work the Shipyards  building possibilities.
(note the anagram names, easier to refind the origine)

COUTBER - COUTERB, Nova Francia Coastal BB laid down 1920

Displacement:
   13 772 t light; 14 600 t standard; 15 095 t normal; 15 491 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (492.00 ft / 492.00 ft) x 82.00 ft x (21.83 / 22.30 ft)
   (149.96 m / 149.96 m) x 24.99 m  x (6.65 / 6.80 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1920 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 871.38lbs / 395.25kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1920 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides amidships
      12 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.96lbs / 5.88kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      8 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 8 605 lbs / 3 903 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.960 t each, 3.841 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.6" / 270 mm   262.00 ft / 79.86 m   11.80 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   3.95" / 100 mm   160.00 ft / 48.77 m   7.88 ft / 2.40 m
     70.00 ft / 21.34 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3.95" / 100 mm   262.00 ft / 79.86 m   11.80 ft / 3.60 m
     Main Belt covers 82 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   7.88" / 200 mm      9.85" / 250 mm
   2nd:   11.8" / 300 mm   7.88" / 200 mm      9.85" / 250 mm
   3rd:   3.95" / 100 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.80" / 300 mm, Aft 7.88" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 40 shafts, 24 554 shp / 18 317 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 4 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 891 tons

Complement:
   680 - 885

Cost:
   £3.172 million / $12.688 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 814 tons, 12.0 %
      - Guns: 1 806 tons, 12.0 %
      - Weapons: 8 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 5 287 tons, 35.0 %
      - Belts: 2 271 tons, 15.0 %
      - Armament: 1 546 tons, 10.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 211 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Towers: 259 tons, 1.7 %
   Machinery: 859 tons, 5.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 648 tons, 37.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 323 tons, 8.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 164 tons, 1.1 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 114 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     26 498 lbs / 12 019 Kg = 30.7 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 4.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 5.0 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.77
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.57

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.93 ft / 6.07 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 64.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 29 507 Square feet or 2 741 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 161 lbs/sq ft or 785 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.19
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
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BRETENAG - BREGATEN, Nova Francia Coastal BB laid down 1922

Displacement:
   13 797 t light; 14 600 t standard; 15 086 t normal; 15 475 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (492.00 ft / 492.00 ft) x 82.00 ft x (21.81 / 22.27 ft)
   (149.96 m / 149.96 m) x 24.99 m  x (6.65 / 6.79 m)

Armament:
      4 - 13.40" / 340 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1 213.31lbs / 550.35kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 13.40" / 340 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1 213.31lbs / 550.35kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1922 Model
     1 x 2 row twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      12 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.97lbs / 5.88kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      8 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 8 410 lbs / 3 815 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.964 t each, 3.857 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.6" / 270 mm   262.00 ft / 79.86 m   11.80 ft / 3.60 m
   Ends:   3.95" / 100 mm   160.00 ft / 48.77 m   7.88 ft / 2.40 m
     70.00 ft / 21.34 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   3.95" / 100 mm   262.00 ft / 79.86 m   11.80 ft / 3.60 m
     Main Belt covers 82 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   7.88" / 200 mm      9.85" / 250 mm
   2nd:   11.8" / 300 mm   7.88" / 200 mm      9.85" / 250 mm
   3rd:   3.95" / 100 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.50" / 64 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.80" / 300 mm, Aft 7.88" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 40 shafts, 24 546 shp / 18 311 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 4 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 875 tons

Complement:
   679 - 884

Cost:
   £3.665 million / $14.658 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 751 tons, 11.6 %
      - Guns: 1 744 tons, 11.6 %
      - Weapons: 8 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 5 130 tons, 34.0 %
      - Belts: 2 276 tons, 15.1 %
      - Armament: 1 384 tons, 9.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 211 tons, 8.0 %
      - Conning Towers: 259 tons, 1.7 %
   Machinery: 833 tons, 5.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 817 tons, 38.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 289 tons, 8.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 266 tons, 1.8 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 216 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     26 692 lbs / 12 108 Kg = 22.2 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 4.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 5.1 ft / 1.5 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.75
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.57

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.600 / 0.603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m,  19.60 ft / 5.97 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.93 ft / 6.07 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 64.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 29 507 Square feet or 2 741 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 163 lbs/sq ft or 797 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.24
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#1
January 02, 2012, 08:18:52 AM Last Edit: January 02, 2012, 05:58:47 PM by Jefgte
Working on the Nova Francia Plan...

1915Patrol Gunboat500t48.7x9.1x2.444x10015kts-5000nm/12ktsB25
1916Squadron Gunboat1000t65.8x11x2.734x14021kts-5000nm/12ktsB25
1917Cruiser 3000t95x14.63x4.172T2x164+4x14024kts-5000nm/12ktsB75-25-T100-BBte40
1917Torpedo Boat (Chasseur)450t69x7.1x2.372x75+3Ttx45027kts-1500nm/12ktsN
1918Cruiser (Dupleix)4000t114x15.2x4.584T2x16424kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T100-40-D38
1919Cruiser Leon class (Gambetta)8000t150x18.3x5.56T2x19427kts-5000nm/12ktsB120-40-T120-D
1920BB Coubert class14600t-15491t150x25x6.654T2x305+12x140+4x7521kts-4000nm/12ktsB270-100-T300-BBte250
1921
1922BB Bregaten class14600t-15475t150x25x6.653T2x340+12x140++4x7521kts-4000nm/12ktsB270-100-T300-BBte250
1923
1924Durand Viel - A27500t210x27x8.72T4x340+24x138.5+6x7527kts-B280-T340-
1925
1926Lyon30000t21ktsB320-T350-
1927
192837000t3T2x40028ktsB320-T350-


All the ships armament is in closed installation to protect crew from large native creatures.
They are also equiped with double mount of 13.2 mm Hotchkiss machine gun for the same job.
These M2x13.2mm Hotchkiss  can fire vs flying or sea predators.
When the warships are outside the bases, these mounts are in alert condition.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#2
January 03, 2012, 07:49:16 AM Last Edit: January 03, 2012, 07:53:26 AM by Jefgte
All cruisers are 27kts-5000nm/12kts


1917Cruiser 3500t114.6x14.3x4.118x14027kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T75-D25
1918Cruiser (Dupleix)5600t141.4x17.3x4.44T2x16427kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T100-40-D38
1919Cruiser Leon class (Gambetta)8000t150x18.3x5.56T2x19427kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T120-40-D40

Increase the speed to 30kts cost +30% displacement
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#3
January 09, 2012, 06:26:10 AM Last Edit: January 09, 2012, 10:21:14 AM by Jefgte
First Gun Boats class made to patrol around Nova Francia zones, to clean the sea from the big dangerous native creatures



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Second class of Gun Boats use to work near big warships & to test 140mm casemates mounts & the sub 450mm TT.



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Note that all armament & rescue ships are in closed installations.


Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#4
January 18, 2012, 06:33:02 AM
"Never Were" for Nova Francia, the 1914 scout cruiser Lamotte-Piquet with very minor modifs.



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Jef  ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#5
January 24, 2012, 04:55:07 AM
An other project,
Medium guns working near the battleline.

Requin, Nova Francia 3rd class BB laid down 1918

Displacement:
   9 015 t light; 9 508 t standard; 10 000 t normal; 10 393 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (491.82 ft / 489.82 ft) x 70.00 ft x (18.23 / 18.80 ft)
   (149.91 m / 149.30 m) x 21.34 m  x (5.56 / 5.73 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 50.0 cal guns - 446.70lbs / 202.62kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1918 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 9.45" / 240 mm 50.0 cal guns - 446.70lbs / 202.62kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1918 Model
     2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides amidships
      8 - 5.50" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 83.90lbs / 38.05kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1918 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      8 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 73.0 cal guns - 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 2 500 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1918 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4 245 lbs / 1 926 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 20.00 ft / 6.10 m torpedoes - 0.952 t each, 3.809 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   318.00 ft / 96.93 m   9.17 ft / 2.80 m
   Ends:   2.95" / 75 mm   170.00 ft / 51.82 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     1.82 ft / 0.55 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   2.95" / 75 mm   318.00 ft / 96.93 m   7.86 ft / 2.40 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   7.87" / 200 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   2nd:   7.87" / 200 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.90" / 150 mm
   3rd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.40" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.80" / 300 mm, Aft 7.88" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 31 191 shp / 23 269 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 5 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 885 tons

Complement:
   499 - 649

Cost:
   £1.753 million / $7.013 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 214 tons, 12.1 %
      - Guns: 1 206 tons, 12.1 %
      - Weapons: 8 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 2 976 tons, 29.8 %
      - Belts: 1 450 tons, 14.5 %
      - Armament: 544 tons, 5.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 786 tons, 7.9 %
      - Conning Towers: 197 tons, 2.0 %
   Machinery: 1 125 tons, 11.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 560 tons, 35.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 985 tons, 9.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 140 tons, 1.4 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15 116 lbs / 6 857 Kg = 35.8 x 9.5 " / 240 mm shells or 3.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 15.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.560 / 0.564
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.55 ft / 6.26 m,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  17.72 ft / 5.40 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      16.67 ft / 5.08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 24 154 Square feet or 2 244 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 128 lbs/sq ft or 626 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.56
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#6
January 27, 2012, 08:34:30 AM
Built NeverWere is interresting, so, 2x Normandie class BB are in the building plan with 1920 techno.

With the calculation numbers in the original plan...


Normandie, Nova Francia Battleship laid down 1920

Displacement:
   24 467 t light; 25 953 t standard; 27 200 t normal; 28 197 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (577.43 ft / 574.48 ft) x 90.56 ft x (28.24 / 29.12 ft)
   (176.00 m / 175.10 m) x 27.60 m  x (8.61 / 8.87 m)

Armament:
      8 - 13.39" / 340 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1 209.46lbs / 548.60kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1920 Model
     2 x 4-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 13.39" / 340 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1 209.46lbs / 548.60kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1920 Model
     1 x 4-gun mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      24 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1920 Model
     24 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.14lbs / 14.13kg shells, 250 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     8 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 73.0 cal guns - 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1920 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 16 919 lbs / 7 674 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      6 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 21.19 ft / 6.46 m torpedoes - 1.020 t each, 6.121 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   360.90 ft / 110.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   4.72" / 120 mm   162.00 ft / 49.38 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     51.57 ft / 15.72 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   8.66" / 220 mm   360.90 ft / 110.00 m   16.42 ft / 5.00 m
     Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

   - Hull void:
      1.58" / 40 mm   360.90 ft / 110.00 m   28.20 ft / 8.60 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.8" / 350 mm   9.84" / 250 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13.8" / 350 mm   9.84" / 250 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   4.72" / 120 mm         -         4.72" / 120 mm
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm   0.79" / 20 mm            -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1.25" / 32 mm  Quarter deck: 1.25" / 32 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.81" / 300 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 34 000 shp / 25 364 Kw = 21.05 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 244 tons

Complement:
   1 058 - 1 376

Cost:
   £5.942 million / $23.769 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 513 tons, 12.9 %
      - Guns: 3 501 tons, 12.9 %
      - Weapons: 12 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 10 392 tons, 38.2 %
      - Belts: 4 486 tons, 16.5 %
      - Void: 593 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armament: 2 652 tons, 9.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 278 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Towers: 383 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 1 189 tons, 4.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 123 tons, 33.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 733 tons, 10.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 0.9 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 200 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     41 497 lbs / 18 823 Kg = 34.6 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 5.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 5.5 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 16.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.94
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.45

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.648 / 0.652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.34 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.95 ft / 0.90 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  20.35 ft / 6.20 m,  20.35 ft / 6.20 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  20.35 ft / 6.20 m,  20.35 ft / 6.20 m
      - Aft deck:   20.00 %,  20.35 ft / 6.20 m,  20.35 ft / 6.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   30.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Average freeboard:      18.09 ft / 5.51 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 64.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 39 781 Square feet or 3 696 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 199 lbs/sq ft or 974 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.82
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

max real Normandie displacement = 28271T; draught 8.86m
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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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Jefgte

#7
February 01, 2012, 03:31:01 AM Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 03:56:48 PM by Jefgte
I don't like very much Lamotte Piquet cruiser look.
I prefer 2 groups of stacks ala Kléber with engines between them.



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#8
February 01, 2012, 11:34:55 PM
Now I like this one's silhouette VERY MUCH!
She looks 'Old School French' with the two groups of funnels- all she's missing is a ram bow!
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Jefgte

#9
February 02, 2012, 06:49:39 AM
25 000T Durand Viel typ - a medium BC, not too heavy, not too light.
The final choice is depending of the other Countries building plans

Durand Veil, Nova Francia BC laid down 1924

Displacement:
   22 645 t light; 23 847 t standard; 25 000 t normal; 25 922 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (691.95 ft / 688.95 ft) x 88.57 ft x (28.54 / 29.33 ft)
   (210.91 m / 209.99 m) x 27.00 m  x (8.70 / 8.94 m)

Armament:
      8 - 13.40" / 340 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1 213.31lbs / 550.35kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1924 Model
     2 x 4 row quad mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 5.50" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 89.79lbs / 40.73kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1924 Model
     16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 3.95" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 31.08lbs / 14.10kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1924 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      12 - 0.52" / 13.2 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 3 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1924 Model
     6 x 2 row twin mounts on side ends, majority forward
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 11 393 lbs / 5 168 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      6 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 21.19 ft / 6.46 m torpedoes - 1.020 t each, 6.121 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11.8" / 300 mm   449.48 ft / 137.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
   Ends:   3.95" / 100 mm   150.00 ft / 45.72 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     89.48 ft / 27.27 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.90" / 150 mm   449.48 ft / 137.00 m   9.85 ft / 3.00 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Hull void:
      1.75" / 44 mm   449.48 ft / 137.00 m   26.00 ft / 7.92 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13.4" / 340 mm   7.80" / 198 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   3.95" / 100 mm         -         3.95" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.95" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1.75" / 44 mm  Quarter deck: 1.75" / 44 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11.00" / 279 mm, Aft 7.85" / 199 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 85 172 shp / 63 538 Kw = 28.00 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 076 tons

Complement:
   993 - 1 292

Cost:
   £6.758 million / $27.032 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 369 tons, 9.5 %
      - Guns: 2 358 tons, 9.4 %
      - Weapons: 11 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 8 467 tons, 33.9 %
      - Belts: 3 477 tons, 13.9 %
      - Void: 757 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armament: 1 272 tons, 5.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 614 tons, 10.5 %
      - Conning Towers: 347 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 2 805 tons, 11.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 813 tons, 35.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 355 tons, 9.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 0.8 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - Above deck: 150 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     33 776 lbs / 15 320 Kg = 28.1 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 5.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.503 / 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.78 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at  speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m,  23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 73.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 40 749 Square feet or 3 786 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 171 lbs/sq ft or 833 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.41
      - Overall: 1.00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#10
February 03, 2012, 09:09:44 AM Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 09:17:53 AM by Jefgte
Here is the actual Building Plan


technosTYPENORMAL DISP.DIMARMAMENTSPEED & RANGEARMOR
1915Patrol Gunboat500t-539t48x8.6x2.312x100+4TTx45015kts-2500nm/12ktsB25
1916Squadron Gunboat1000t-1103t68.7x10.1x2.724x140+4TTx45021kts-5000nm/12ktsB25
1917Torpedo Boat (Chasseur)500t-520t71.3x7.3x2.343x100+4TTx45027.5kts-1500nm/12ktsN
1917Cruiser NOVA3800t-4020t120x14.4x4.078x140+4TTx45027kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T75-D25
1918Cruiser (Dupleix)7200t-7522t158x17.2x2.14T2x164+8x100+4TTx45030kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T100-D38
1918Cruiser Leon (Gambetta)10000t-10398t176x19x5.746T2x194+8x100+6TTx45030kts-5000nm/12ktsB&T120-D38
1920BB Normandie class27200t-28197t176x27.6x8.613T4x340+24x140+8x10021kts-7500nm/12ktsB320-220-120-T350-BBte300
1922BB Lyon class33500t-34624t190x30x8.994T4x340+24x140+8x10021kts-7500nm/12ktsB330-220-115-T350-BBte300
1924Durand Viel - A25000t-25922t210x27x8.72T4x340+16x140+8x10028kts-7500nm/12ktsB300-150-100-T340-BBte300
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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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#11
February 16, 2012, 08:52:36 AM Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 06:13:32 AM by Jefgte
Here is BB Normandie class modified for Nova Francia.



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#12
February 23, 2012, 07:47:52 AM
QuoteNow I like this one's silhouette VERY MUCH!
She looks 'Old School French' with the two groups of funnels- all she's missing is a ram bow!

A special rework for our Friend Carthaginian  ;)



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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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Carthaginian

#13
February 23, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
Jef, those will be among the most handsome vessels anyone fields!
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Jefgte

#14
March 15, 2012, 05:37:28 AM Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 05:40:24 AM by Jefgte
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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