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Started by Logi, August 27, 2011, 06:52:31 PM

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Logi

QuoteIf a matter of <1/64" of an inch of drop can be bad for a .30 caliber rifle barrel at 300 yards, then I'd hate to know what a foot might do to a naval rifle at 5 miles!  Also, as it is an inconsistent and inherent problem of manufacturing that tolerances will never work out as they should, each case being different makes it harder to adjust for each individual case. I would imagine that the scale might mitigate the severity, but it cannot eliminate or marginalize it.
Yes, that is quite true. However- as I pointed out originally, barrel droop becomes a huge problem when naval gun ranges reach the excess of 3000 yds (what I meant by period battle ranges). The droop of a 1ft on a 15"/32 would result in a downward angle of roughly 1.4 degrees. 1 degree is roughly 100 yds on a 13.5"/30 so I think we can expect a range drop of ~150 yds. At 1000 yds, that is 15% of the range -  at 2000 yds, that is ofc half at 7.5% of the range. I had thought because of the close ranges, drop and firing higher could be alleviated by free-board +superstructure height of the ship - although it seems to be simply 0.6 degrees height for a 10 ft freeboard at 1000 yds. -So I probably did underestimate it.

QuoteA ship- especially one involved in gunfire support- can also expect to fire MANY more rounds than a ship in a naval battle... a 3 hour bombardment would not be unheard of in preparation for a major operation. Finally, any navy that will have a relatively small fleet at sea (like all our nations) has to consider readiness. Re-gunning a capital ship isn't like swapping out the barrel on a SAW. You take that ship out of action for weeks... and if you only have 10 battleline units, then you are already at 90% strength for a couple of months- without considering other problems which might manifest.
You are correct, I'm trying to look for an alternative to the 15"/32. I ran into all these problems as I was looking for a gun that could penetrate the 18" Harvey Nickel-Steel mounted on my pre-dreads. It is a very tall order and that's why I had to resort to very large calibers like 15" (I wanted to stay at 13.5") to avoid lengthening barrel caliber.

QuoteEssentially, I think we're placing importance on two opposing schools of thought here.
I agree that seems to be the case.

Logi

#31
Shaved weight version of IAB Gloria:

- Increased no. of 8"
- Reduced 3rd battery from 6" to 4.7" guns
- Fixed number of shells. All batteries have ammo capacity for 2 hours of continuous firing. Main and 8" have 33% more for shore bombardment.
- Shaved main belt, upper belt, and deck armor. Increased 8" and 4.7" face armor.
- Lowered speed by 1 knot

- Shaved 1,892 tons from normal displacement, 2,035 tons from light displacement

QuoteIAB Gloria, Iberia Battleship laid down 1877
Central citadel ship

Displacement:
   8,058 t light; 8,550 t standard; 9,272 t normal; 9,849 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (360.00 ft / 360.00 ft) x 62.00 ft x (24.00 / 25.23 ft)
   (109.73 m / 109.73 m) x 18.90 m  x (7.32 / 7.69 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 20.0 cal guns - 600.01lbs / 272.16kg shells, 60 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1877 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck centre
     2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 25.0 cal guns - 200.00lbs / 90.72kg shells, 90 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 30.0 cal guns - 39.99lbs / 18.14kg shells, 600 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in casemate mounts, 1877 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 5,520 lbs / 2,504 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.0" / 381 mm   9.00" / 229 mm            -
   2nd:   9.00" / 229 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.50" / 13 mm
   Forecastle: 0.50" / 13 mm  Quarter deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.00" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4,798 ihp / 3,580 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,298 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   472 - 614

Cost:
   £0.698 million / $2.792 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 564 tons, 6.1 %
      - Guns: 564 tons, 6.1 %
   Armour: 2,733 tons, 29.5 %
      - Belts: 1,545 tons, 16.7 %
      - Armament: 921 tons, 9.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 153 tons, 1.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 114 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 1,036 tons, 11.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,726 tons, 40.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,213 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,720 lbs / 3,955 Kg = 12.5 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 15.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.606 / 0.612
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.81 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 37 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m,  8.70 ft / 2.65 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.70 ft / 2.65 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 65.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 57.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 16,413 Square feet or 1,525 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 175 lbs/sq ft or 853 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.02
      - Longitudinal: 2.04
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Logi

#32
Shaved weight version of IAB Aragón

- Increased no. of 8"
- Reduced 3rd battery from 6" to 4.7" guns
- Fixed number of shells. Ammo capacity as per IAB Gloria.
- Shaved main belt, upper belt, deck armor, and 13.5" face/other/barbette armor. Increased 8" and 4.7" face armor as per IAB Gloria.
- Lowered speed by 1 knot

- Shaved 2026 tons from normal displacement, 2005 tons from light displacement.

Note: Ship's main is no longer resistant to 13.5"/30 gun fire, although still resistant to 12" and under fire. As in IAB Gloria, upper belt is not resistant to 8" secondary but resistant to 6" and under. 8" secondary face armor resistant to own fire, similar situation with the main battery and 4.7" battery.

QuoteIAB Aragón, Iberia Battleship laid down 1880

Displacement:
   9,695 t light; 10,367 t standard; 11,100 t normal; 11,686 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (360.00 ft / 360.00 ft) x 68.00 ft x (25.00 / 26.11 ft)
   (109.73 m / 109.73 m) x 20.73 m  x (7.62 / 7.96 m)

Armament:
      6 - 13.50" / 343 mm 30.0 cal guns - 1,250.00lbs / 566.99kg shells, 60 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1880 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline amidships (forward deck)
     2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 30.0 cal guns - 200.00lbs / 90.72kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1880 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 45.00lbs / 20.41kg shells, 600 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1880 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 9,460 lbs / 4,291 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.6" / 319 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   16.0" / 406 mm   9.00" / 229 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   9.00" / 229 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.50" / 13 mm
   Forecastle: 0.50" / 13 mm  Quarter deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,273 ihp / 3,934 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,319 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   539 - 702

Cost:
   £1.006 million / $4.025 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,035 tons, 9.3 %
      - Guns: 1,035 tons, 9.3 %
   Armour: 2,942 tons, 26.5 %
      - Belts: 1,672 tons, 15.1 %
      - Armament: 990 tons, 8.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 172 tons, 1.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 107 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 1,090 tons, 9.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,628 tons, 41.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,405 tons, 12.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,245 lbs / 4,194 Kg = 8.8 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.635 / 0.640
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.29 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 39 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.43 ft / 2.57 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 53.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,493 Square feet or 1,718 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 204 lbs/sq ft or 997 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.01
      - Longitudinal: 2.20
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Logi

For now (without changing the gun diameter):

Shaved weight version of IAB Lisbon

- Increased no. of 8"
- Reduced 3rd battery from 6" to 4.7" guns
- Fixed number of shells. Ammo capacity as per IAB Gloria.
- Shaved Main belt, upper belt, deck armor, and 13.5" other/barbette armor. Increased 8" face armor.
- Cut 15"/32 down to 15"28, making it just 15" longer than 13.5"/30 as opposed to 75" longer.
- Lowered speed by 1 knot

- Shaved 3526 tons from normal displacement, 3371 tons from light displacement.

Note: Main belt is resistant to 13.5" fire, although no longer resistant to 15"/32 gunfire. Upper belt is shaved down, but still resistant to 8" gun fire. As per Aragon and Gloria, the batteries are all resistant to their own fire.

QuoteIAB Lisbon, Iberia Battleship laid down 1885
Central citadel ship

Displacement:
   10,329 t light; 11,043 t standard; 11,700 t normal; 12,225 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (360.00 ft / 360.00 ft) x 71.00 ft x (24.00 / 24.92 ft)
   (109.73 m / 109.73 m) x 21.64 m  x (7.32 / 7.60 m)

Armament:
      6 - 15.00" / 381 mm 28.0 cal guns - 1,400.00lbs / 635.03kg shells, 60 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1885 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck centre
     2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 35.0 cal guns - 200.00lbs / 90.72kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1885 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 45.00lbs / 20.41kg shells, 600 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1885 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 10,360 lbs / 4,699 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   15.0" / 381 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   9.00" / 229 mm   360.00 ft / 109.73 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   18.0" / 457 mm   9.00" / 229 mm      5.00" / 127 mm
   2nd:   9.00" / 229 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.50" / 13 mm
   Forecastle: 0.50" / 13 mm  Quarter deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 15.00" / 381 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,276 ihp / 3,936 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,182 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   562 - 731

Cost:
   £1.174 million / $4.694 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,303 tons, 11.1 %
      - Guns: 1,303 tons, 11.1 %
   Armour: 3,576 tons, 30.6 %
      - Belts: 2,078 tons, 17.8 %
      - Armament: 1,146 tons, 9.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 185 tons, 1.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 167 tons, 1.4 %
   Machinery: 1,025 tons, 8.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,425 tons, 37.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,371 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,939 lbs / 4,508 Kg = 6.4 x 15.0 " / 381 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 15.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.668 / 0.672
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.07 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.43 ft / 2.57 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 55.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,897 Square feet or 1,848 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 191 lbs/sq ft or 935 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 2.04
      - Overall: 1.05
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Logi

Even further shaved weight of IAB Gloria:

- Shaved main belt, main battery armor, 8" face armor, 4.7" face armor.
- Switched to open barbette from main battery to save weight
- Increased 8" other armor, increased upper belt armor.
- Added 15" torpedoes

- Shaved additional 1,676 from normal displacement (3,568 in total), 1,802 tons from light displacement (3,837 in total)

Note: Main belt is resistant to all gunfire from the ship. Upper belt is resistant to all but the 12"/20s. All batteries are resistant to their own fire. (Previously they were resistant to +5-10 cal versions of their guns)

Opinion?

QuoteIAB Gloria, Iberia Battleship laid down 1877
Barbette ship
Central citadel ship

Displacement:
   6,382 t light; 6,838 t standard; 7,470 t normal; 7,976 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (340.00 ft / 340.00 ft) x 52.00 ft x (23.00 / 24.32 ft)
   (103.63 m / 103.63 m) x 15.85 m  x (7.01 / 7.41 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 20.0 cal guns - 600.01lbs / 272.16kg shells, 60 per gun
     Breech loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1877 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck centre
     2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 25.0 cal guns - 200.00lbs / 90.72kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 30.0 cal guns - 39.99lbs / 18.14kg shells, 600 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1877 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 5,520 lbs / 2,504 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.128 t each, 0.512 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   4.00 ft / 1.22 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:         -            -         10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.50" / 13 mm
   Forecastle: 0.50" / 13 mm  Quarter deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 10.00" / 254 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4,254 ihp / 3,174 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,138 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   401 - 522

Cost:
   £0.571 million / $2.284 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 563 tons, 7.5 %
      - Guns: 563 tons, 7.5 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 2,214 tons, 29.6 %
      - Belts: 1,308 tons, 17.5 %
      - Armament: 698 tons, 9.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 125 tons, 1.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 82 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 918 tons, 12.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,686 tons, 36.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,088 tons, 14.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6,415 lbs / 2,910 Kg = 9.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 17.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.83
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.04

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.643 / 0.649
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.54 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18.44 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m,  8.00 ft / 2.44 m
      - Average freeboard:      8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 50.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 13,457 Square feet or 1,250 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 154 lbs/sq ft or 750 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.03
      - Longitudinal: 1.96
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Logi

Super shaved weight version- how's this for light:

- Removed one of the 12"/20 turrets
- Shaved conning tower armor
- Shaved 4 rounds from 12"/20 guns, 10 rounds from 8"/25 guns.

- Shaved additional 2,170 tons from normal displacement (5,738 total), 1,958 tons from light displacement (5,795 total)

Note: As before, Main belt is still resistant to all gunfire from the ship. Upper belt is resistant to all but the 12"/20s. All batteries are resistant to their own fire. Conning tower is no resistant to all but 12"/20 gun fire.

QuoteIAB Gloria, Iberia Battleship laid down 1877
Barbette ship

Displacement:
   4,424 t light; 4,786 t standard; 5,300 t normal; 5,711 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (285.00 ft / 285.00 ft) x 43.50 ft x (22.00 / 23.47 ft)
   (86.87 m / 86.87 m) x 13.26 m  x (6.71 / 7.16 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 20.0 cal guns - 699.99lbs / 317.51kg shells, 56 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1877 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 25.0 cal guns - 200.00lbs / 90.72kg shells, 70 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 30.0 cal guns - 39.99lbs / 18.14kg shells, 600 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1877 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 4,720 lbs / 2,141 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.128 t each, 0.512 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   285.00 ft / 86.87 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   285.00 ft / 86.87 m   2.50 ft / 0.76 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:         -            -         10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.50" / 13 mm
   Forecastle: 0.50" / 13 mm  Quarter deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,616 ihp / 2,697 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 926 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   309 - 403

Cost:
   £0.399 million / $1.597 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 356 tons, 6.7 %
      - Guns: 355 tons, 6.7 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 1,606 tons, 30.3 %
      - Belts: 1,002 tons, 18.9 %
      - Armament: 474 tons, 8.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 91 tons, 1.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 39 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 780 tons, 14.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,681 tons, 31.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 876 tons, 16.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4,182 lbs / 1,897 Kg = 6.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 12.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 2.0 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 12.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.79
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.680 / 0.687
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.55 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.88 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m,  6.50 ft / 1.98 m
      - Average freeboard:      6.50 ft / 1.98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 38.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 9,761 Square feet or 907 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 630 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.01
      - Longitudinal: 2.23
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Extremely poor accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Jefgte

IMO, for IAB Gloria-1877
Increase beam
decrease BC
Increase freeboard
Increase deck armor.


Jef ;)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Carthaginian

For a coastal BB... the two-turret version looks pretty much right, though Jef is right in that the deck armor needs increasing.

Right now you have side armor that will stop a 12" shell, but the deck is barely proof against a pissed-off 4 year old with a screwdriver.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Logi

The idea was that since the main belt was to protect against it's largest caliber (and thus pretty much all other shells of the time), having a deck was only necessary as a splinter deck. That was why the deck was only 0.5", enough for splinter but not much more. Increased to 1", but further increases really will result in too much weight added.

The reason, I had low beam and freeboard was that they drained composite strength (on the order of ~700 tons normal). Had to slightly shorter hull length to keep weight increase from going into 800 tons normal.

However, here is the version with the corrections- (+660 tons normal, +601 tons light)

QuoteIAB Gloria, Iberia Battleship laid down 1877
Barbette ship

Displacement:
   5,025 t light; 5,425 t standard; 5,980 t normal; 6,424 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (270.00 ft / 270.00 ft) x 48.00 ft x (24.00 / 25.53 ft)
   (82.30 m / 82.30 m) x 14.63 m  x (7.32 / 7.78 m)

Armament:
      4 - 12.00" / 305 mm 20.0 cal guns - 700.00lbs / 317.51kg shells, 60 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in open barbette mounts, 1877 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 25.0 cal guns - 200.00lbs / 90.72kg shells, 90 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 30.0 cal guns - 40.00lbs / 18.14kg shells, 600 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1877 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 4,720 lbs / 2,141 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.128 t each, 0.512 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   270.00 ft / 82.30 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   270.00 ft / 82.30 m   5.00 ft / 1.52 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:         -            -         10.0" / 254 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3,994 ihp / 2,979 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,000 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   339 - 442

Cost:
   £0.432 million / $1.727 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 356 tons, 6.0 %
      - Guns: 355 tons, 5.9 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 1,901 tons, 31.8 %
      - Belts: 1,099 tons, 18.4 %
      - Armament: 570 tons, 9.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 189 tons, 3.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 43 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 862 tons, 14.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,906 tons, 31.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 955 tons, 16.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,635 lbs / 2,556 Kg = 8.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 15.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 11.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.37

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.673 / 0.679
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.63 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 50.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,138 Square feet or 942 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 661 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 3.30
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Carthaginian

Dangerous looking ship... I like.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Logi

Wooden Hull Masted Cruiser, Viscaya - Test:

It's a full rigged ship capable of 13.33 knots with wind. Without wind, it steams at 8 kts for 2000 nm.

QuoteIAB Vizcaya, Iberia Masted Cruiser laid down 1875

Displacement:
   3,387 t light; 3,594 t standard; 3,800 t normal; 3,965 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (406.37 ft / 400.00 ft) x 43.00 ft x (14.00 / 14.48 ft)
   (123.86 m / 121.92 m) x 13.11 m  x (4.27 / 4.41 m)

Armament:
      4 - 8.00" / 203 mm 25.0 cal guns - 204.70lbs / 92.85kg shells, 40 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1875 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      12 - 4.70" / 119 mm 30.0 cal guns - 42.12lbs / 19.11kg shells, 400 per gun
     Muzzle loading guns in casemate mounts, 1875 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,324 lbs / 601 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.00" / 102 mm   330.00 ft / 100.58 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   330.00 ft / 100.58 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     Main Belt covers 127 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 0.50" / 13 mm
   Forecastle: 0.50" / 13 mm  Quarter deck: 0.50" / 13 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 471 ihp / 352 Kw = 8.00 kts
   Range 2,000nm at 8.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 371 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   241 - 314

Cost:
   £0.192 million / $0.768 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 150 tons, 4.0 %
      - Guns: 150 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 1,040 tons, 27.4 %
      - Belts: 737 tons, 19.4 %
      - Armament: 191 tons, 5.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 112 tons, 3.0 %
   Machinery: 105 tons, 2.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,804 tons, 47.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 413 tons, 10.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 288 tons, 7.6 %
      - Hull below water: 234 tons
      - Above deck: 54 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,848 lbs / 4,014 Kg = 44.6 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 3.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 13.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.552 / 0.557
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 9 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  11.00 ft / 3.35 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   20.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.43 ft / 3.18 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 33.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 12,030 Square feet or 1,118 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 181 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 523 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.09
      - Longitudinal: 1.15
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Tanthalas

I did a similar ship, then deleated most of the smaller guns as it was pointed out to me that there realy wasnt anywhere to put them or any need for them.  not a bad ship though.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Logi

#42
Mostly because I did a model of this version...

Enlarged version of the 5,980 ton Normal design with three twin 12"/20s. It looks like it fits, but that's by pushing all the weapons closer together than other ships in historical period. The result is very limited arcs of full broadsides.

For example: The three twin 12"/30 have an arc of ~50 degrees for a broadside on each side because of the aft guns.
Only half of the casemate 4.7"s can fire past 30 degrees beyond full broadside on forward or aft.
The 8"/25s have roughly 120 degrees arcs that they can fire at (30 degrees beyond full broadside).

Broadsiding
Side View
Bird's Eye View

Quote
IAB Gloria, Iberia Battleship laid down 1877
Central citadel ship

Displacement:
   6,086 t light; 6,567 t standard; 7,188 t normal; 7,686 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (270.00 ft / 270.00 ft) x 56.00 ft x (26.00 / 27.52 ft)
   (82.30 m / 82.30 m) x 17.07 m  x (7.92 / 8.39 m)

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm 20.0 cal guns - 694.94lbs / 315.22kg shells, 60 per gun
     Breech loading guns in Coles/Ericsson turret mounts, 1877 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck centre
     2 x Twin mounts on sides, aft deck centre
      8 - 8.00" / 203 mm 25.0 cal guns - 208.62lbs / 94.63kg shells, 90 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1877 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      8 - 4.70" / 119 mm 30.0 cal guns - 42.92lbs / 19.47kg shells, 600 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1877 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 6,182 lbs / 2,804 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 381 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.128 t each, 0.512 t total
   submerged side tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   270.00 ft / 82.30 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   270.00 ft / 82.30 m   4.70 ft / 1.43 m
     Main Belt covers 154 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   10.0" / 254 mm   6.00" / 152 mm            -
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.00" / 25 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4,496 ihp / 3,354 Kw = 14.00 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,119 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   389 - 507

Cost:
   £0.576 million / $2.305 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 479 tons, 6.7 %
      - Guns: 478 tons, 6.7 %
      - Weapons: 1 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 1,986 tons, 27.6 %
      - Belts: 1,081 tons, 15.0 %
      - Armament: 643 tons, 8.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 214 tons, 3.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 48 tons, 0.7 %
   Machinery: 970 tons, 13.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,650 tons, 36.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,102 tons, 15.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5,976 lbs / 2,711 Kg = 8.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 15.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
   Metacentric height 3.1 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 13.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.80
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.640 / 0.647
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.82 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 16.43 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -22.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.00 ft / -0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   13.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Forward deck:   38.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Aft deck:   38.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   11.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.00 ft / 2.74 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 50.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,477 Square feet or 1,066 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 169 lbs/sq ft or 824 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 3.87
      - Overall: 1.10
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

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