North America Buildup

[TexanCowboy]

I'm toying around with the idea that Acadian refugees, sailing down the Ohio and Mississippi from Darman's land, along with invited royalist French immigrants, revolt in 1824; much more extensive French colonization than OTL, and Fort Saint Louis survives as an independent colony until the end of the 7 Year War, when it is taken over by Spain along with Arkansas and Louisiana, which provides more momentum against the "evil Neo-Spanish overlords, with their concept of Catholic Monarchy". The Confederates, streaming west, would come later. This would lead to more of a French based state, but I like the idea....

[ctwaterman]

So the French Refugees float down the Allegeny River till it merges with the Ohio and from their down to the Mississippi.  The Question in 1820 till around 1830 is why dont they settle in New Orleans?

But I guess if Mexico after 1821 offers them enough land grants I guess they can go to Fort Saint Louis and settle there.  And then revolt latter....

;) You know this makes Texans Revolting dont you... 8)

[TexanCowboy]

Well, New Bordeaux, rather, is to be part of Mexico at the time. I'm figuring that whoever controls Orleans says "no", while Mexico says "yes" to immigration, leading to dispersal through the Lousiana swamp country and the Fort Saint Louis region.

Hm, the UCAS might have a Revolt if you keep using such Revolting puns.  ;D ;D ;D

[snip]

is my Russian Pacific Northwest idea a go?

[ctwaterman]

I dont see any reason why not the US, Russia, and GB all had historical claims on that region.   With a weaker GB I dont see why Russia wouldnt send say all its political disidents their instead of Siberia.  They can get more work and more use out of them for longer in Siberia.  Plus add in less forced Immigration and you end up with a mini Russia state.

[Logi]

To bring it up again, where we at with the whole Carribean-Texas thing?

[TexanCowboy]

I abandoned all claims except maybe the one at Key West.

[Blooded]

Howdy Pardners!

So what is up with the North American Southwest! I asked for a Mod ruling on DFs 'Massive Domain' TM  on June 23rd.

I have not heard word one... Would it not be best to discuss options or will you spend hours making a map that may be entirely pointless?

I am a firm believer in not wasting time....

[Guinness]

I'm sorry, I've been recovering from a crash crunch effort to roll out a business circumstances driven update to a certain pro-basketball website which resulted in my pulling off a 36 hour day Thursday-Friday. I'll put on my to-do list to have a look a the maps again, but at this point the best case scenario is a geographic splitting of the baby that is unlikely to make anyone happy.

[Guinness]

Here's a modified map. Hightlights:

- Cleaned up NPCs and whitespace
- Fiddled with the Maine/Nova Scotia/etc. region. I'm not really 100% happy with how New England (or whatever it's called) has come out. Input from nations in that vicinity would be helpful and welcome.
- Fiddled with Borders in the Southwest. I'm sure all nations in the vicinity will be unhappy, in which case this is probably a victory. This is the aforementioned baby splitting.

[TexanCowboy]

Uh, what happened to Logi's nation, and all the adjustments me and charles made in regards to Louisiana?

EDIT: This was the last officialish map; maybe we should modify based off of that?

[Guinness]

13 pages of comments mean I probably missed something. It also means you probably missed something regarding the Caribbean. I'd prefer not to rehash that matter.

[Carthaginian]

Well, I voluntarily relinquished claims to everything on the south side of the St. Lawrence River to New England... that's why New England looked the way it did. Darman and I are going to work out a small-scale border war that will result in the change of hands. I thought sticking to the OTL boundaries was- honestly- a bit silly when such a small change could cause such a big sense of 'difference' in our world.

We want this to be as unique as possible... that was a very easy way to establish the difference.

[Guinness]

Ok, I'll give that stuff back.

[Carthaginian]

OH... np, and this IS a VERY long and confusing thread.
Just wanted to update you and present the reasoning so you'd know the change was mutual.