DKB Light Cruiser idea

[Sachmle]

KK1921a, Deutsche Reich Klein Kruezer laid down 1921

Displacement:
   6,225 t light; 6,498 t standard; 7,710 t normal; 8,680 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.75 ft / 552.00 ft x 61.35 ft x 15.49 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.25 m x 18.70 m  x 4.72 m

Armament:
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1921 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
      2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1921 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 841 lbs / 382 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250
   6 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   350.39 ft / 106.80 m   10.01 ft / 3.05 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      2.95" / 75 mm

   - Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 56,300 shp / 42,000 Kw = 29.69 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,182 tons

Complement:
   410 - 534

Cost:
   £1.478 million / $5.911 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 109 tons, 1.4 %
   Armour: 960 tons, 12.4 %
      - Belts: 437 tons, 5.7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 81 tons, 1.1 %
      - Armour Deck: 416 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 1,939 tons, 25.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,994 tons, 38.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,485 tons, 19.3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 224 tons, 2.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10,972 lbs / 4,977 Kg = 106.5 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 13.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.515
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.35 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (22 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Mid (47 %):      22.97 ft / 7.00 m (13.12 ft / 4.00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Stern:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.04 ft / 5.50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,867 Square feet or 2,124 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 130 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 438 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.15
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

100t FC
25t LR Wireless
24t (12x2t 53cm Torpedoes, 6 in tubes, 6 reload)
75t Mines

[P3D]

Too wide beam and shallow draft - B:D is 4:1, it should be around 3:1 to save a few tons.

[Sachmle]

Too wide beam and shallow draft - B:D is 4:1, it should be around 3:1 to save a few tons.

In an effort to narrow and deepen the ship w/o dropping the BC to a ridiculously low number I had to INCREASE weight, but I used it for more speed and a longer/deeper belt and thicker CT armor.

KK1921b, Deutsche Reich Klein Kruezer laid down 1921

Displacement:
   6,550 t light; 6,829 t standard; 8,057 t normal; 9,039 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.75 ft / 552.00 ft x 55.22 ft x 18.41 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.25 m x 16.83 m  x 5.61 m

Armament:
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1921 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 19.84lbs / 9.00kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
      2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1921 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 837 lbs / 380 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250
   6 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   393.70 ft / 120.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      2.95" / 75 mm

   - Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 67,024 shp / 50,000 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,210 tons

Complement:
   424 - 552

Cost:
   £1.638 million / $6.553 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 109 tons, 1.3 %
   Armour: 1,034 tons, 12.8 %
      - Belts: 548 tons, 6.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 81 tons, 1.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 371 tons, 4.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 34 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,308 tons, 28.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,875 tons, 35.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,507 tons, 18.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 224 tons, 2.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,550 lbs / 3,878 Kg = 83.0 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.29
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.503
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.35 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (22 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Mid (47 %):      22.97 ft / 7.00 m (13.12 ft / 4.00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Stern:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.04 ft / 5.50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,357 Square feet or 1,891 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 88 lbs/sq ft or 432 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.24
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

100t FC
25t LR Wireless
24t (12x2t 53cm Torpedoes, 6 in tubes, 6 reload)
75t Mines

[Jefgte]

...24t (12x2t 53cm Torpedoes, 6 in tubes, 6 reload)
...

On a 170m hull you have enough place to install directly 12TT & no reload.
The advantage is that all TT are directly operational - no reload time -


Jef

[Sachmle]

KK1921b, Deutsche Reich Klein Kruezer laid down 1921

Displacement:
   6,550 t light; 6,837 t standard; 8,065 t normal; 9,048 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.75 ft / 552.00 ft x 55.22 ft x 18.41 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.25 m x 16.83 m  x 5.61 m

Armament:
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1921 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 19.84lbs / 9.00kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1921 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1921 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 877 lbs / 398 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250
   12 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   393.70 ft / 120.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   1.77" / 45 mm      2.95" / 75 mm

   - Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 67,024 shp / 50,000 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,211 tons

Complement:
   425 - 553

Cost:
   £1.649 million / $6.597 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 114 tons, 1.4 %
   Armour: 1,030 tons, 12.8 %
      - Belts: 548 tons, 6.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 77 tons, 1.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 371 tons, 4.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 34 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 2,308 tons, 28.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,879 tons, 35.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,515 tons, 18.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 219 tons, 2.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8,496 lbs / 3,854 Kg = 82.5 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 13.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.503
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.35 degrees
   Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.25 ft / 8.00 m
      - Forecastle (22 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Mid (47 %):      22.97 ft / 7.00 m (13.12 ft / 4.00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Stern:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.04 ft / 5.50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 107.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,367 Square feet or 1,892 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 119 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 88 lbs/sq ft or 432 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.24
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

100t FC
25t LR Wireless
24t (12x2t 53cm Torpedoes)
70t Mines (35 per rail)

[ctwaterman]

Excellent design slightly larger guns, same torps and mine layout as the Italia Taranto class but with more modern engines and about a 1000 less tons and only 1 knot slower.

[Sachmle]

Excellent design slightly larger guns, same torps and mine layout as the Italia Taranto class but with more modern engines and about a 1000 less tons and only 1 knot slower.

	KK1921b	Taranto
Main Battery	8x150	8x140	Adv KK1921b
Secondary	4x88	none	Adv KK1921b
Tertirary	2x37	none	Adv KK1921b
Machine guns	4x15	8x25	Adv Taranto
Speed	31	32	Adv Taranto
Main Belt	75	57	Adv KK1921b
Belt length	120.25	130.69	Adv Taranto
Belt Height	3.50	4.54	Adv Taranto
Deck	25	38	Adv Taranto
Range	10,000@15	9,000@14	Adv KK1921b
Ammo load	250	200	Adv KK1921b
CT armor	100	76	Adv KK1921b
Mines	70	100	Adv Taranto
Stability	1.21	1.17	Adv KK1921b
Steadiness	70	70	Wash
Seakeeping	1.11	1.06	Adv KK1921b
Survivablity Shell	3,852	3,313	Adv KK1921b
Survivablity Torp	1.3	1.1	Adv KK1921b
Total	11	6	Adv KK1921b
For 1047t less

[Kaiser Kirk]

Hmm Leipzig class
8x150 (per side) - T-1st
8x105 - 1st
2x 37mm - T-1st
0xMG - last
28kts - last
75mm Main belt - T-1st
30mm Deck - 2nd
3.0m Belt height - last
110m Belt length - last 
5,000nm @ 12.5kts - last
Ammo - 154 per gun (last), 1848 total vs 2000 vs 1600 - so 2nd.
50mm CT - 3rd
Mines - 0 - 3rd
Stability - 1.22 - 1st
Stability - 70 - wash
Seakeeping - 1.04 - 3rd
Survivability shell - 3,973 - 1st
Survivability Torp - 0.8 - 3rd

Total  (inc ties)
Liepzig - 6
KK1921b - 8
Taranto - 6

So..Leipzig is only 5,000 tons, with coal firing 1912 engines and antiquated main guns layout. The coal firing actually makes her a better merchant raider because she can refuel from any prizes.  Despite "6" points, I really don't think she's in the same league. Although both KK1921b and Taranto have speed advantages, both would have difficulty finding a range where they could penetrate Leipzig's armor without getting holed in return- though Leipzig's casements limits her current longer ranges until the 0.8 shells come into use.   Overall I'm not sure this is a good method of comparison.

On the other hand, against DDs she's may be more effective at tracking than the Kk1921b, considering it's twin 150mm gun houses have a rotating weight of 47t which is close to that of the gun mount criticized on the Omahas which came in at 51.8t  The Taranto's 42 ton mounts are light in comparison.

(note- Liepzig is only 120m, so for belts this is 141% vs 110%and 119% coverage, 1st by that measure, would be 7/8/5)

[ctwaterman]

Like I said an Excellent design so is the Leipzig class given her technical limitations and as a raider she has a real advantage.

The Taranto class has a clear advantage over the KK1921B in that there are currently two in service and 4 more under construction that will soon finish.   Heck one was lost in the recent fighting with New Zion and New Swiss.

I really like all the Designs and if I could have gotten 31 or 32 knots for the 1000 tons less weight I would have but I think thats because you will be using the 1917 Engine Tech instead of the older tech I had to use.  Italia just got the 1917 Engine tech so any new Cruisers will be using it.

Charles

[snip]

grumbles something about 31+ knt speeds and sends the Dalians back to the drawing board

[ctwaterman]

grumbles something about 31+ knt speeds and sends the Dalians back to the drawing board

Hey Dont Forget that I can also sacrafice some sea keeping if my ship is going to be primarily used in the Mediteranian Ocean.  Given that My Ships can stay in the Med or Rift seas and never be more then 2000 NM from a Port  I could even sacrafice range.

Charles

[snip]

for comparison, a potential future cruiser of the Dragon Navy

Dalian Class, Middle Kingdom Cruiser laid down 1923

Displacement:
   6,500 t light; 6,818 t standard; 8,340 t normal; 9,558 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   554.47 ft / 541.34 ft x 55.77 ft x 18.04 ft (normal load)
   169.00 m / 165.00 m x 17.00 m  x 5.50 m

Armament:
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (3x2 guns), 13.23lbs / 6.00kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 13.23lbs / 6.00kg shells, 1915 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.81lbs / 1.73kg shells, 1915 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      10 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.55lbs / 0.25kg shells, 1923 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1,007 lbs / 457 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250
   6 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   352.03 ft / 107.30 m   9.02 ft / 2.75 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      4.33" / 110 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.59" / 15 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   3rd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.59" / 15 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   4th:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 0.79" / 20 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 3 shafts, 62,000 shp / 46,252 Kw = 30.04 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 17.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,740 tons (10% coal)

Complement:
   436 - 567

Cost:
   £1.829 million / $7.314 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 129 tons, 1.5 %
   Armour: 972 tons, 11.7 %
      - Belts: 523 tons, 6.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 104 tons, 1.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 303 tons, 3.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 42 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 2,091 tons, 25.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,883 tons, 34.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,840 tons, 22.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 425 tons, 5.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,680 lbs / 4,391 Kg = 94.0 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.536
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.27 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3.18 ft / 0.97 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.22 ft / 5.25 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Stern:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.47 ft / 5.02 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 128.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 20,793 Square feet or 1,932 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 126 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 90 lbs/sq ft or 442 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Misc weight:
100t for 1918 (1912) Cruiser Fire Control
100t for floatplane facilities including crane, catapult, fuel, spare parts, ect.
50t for Mariens
26t for shot range attack and boarding craft
25t for Long range wireless
25t for Flag acomidations and comand facilties
25t for Medical facilties
25t for Nightfighting equipment
25t for additional cargo storage
24t for 21" torpedoes

[Logi]

http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=3146.msg68528#msg68528

My own comparison to my own design. I did not include yours snip as you posted the design whilst I was formatting.

I did not include throw weight else the U1922A would have placed 2nd behind the Leipzig and 1st if we only counted the guns that could be brought to bear on one side.


Btw:
@Snip: I seriously don't know why your ships are going to have such a high range.

[Sachmle]

Btw:
@Snip: I seriously don't know why your ships are going to have such a high range.

He says it's so they can run at high speed longer and/or stay on station longer w/o refueling. I'd also through in that they could refuel destroyers off the CL if it was operating as a leader.

[snip]

He says it's so they can run at high speed longer and/or stay on station longer w/o refueling. I'd also through in that they could refuel destroyers off the CL if it was operating as a leader.

Yes, that is true. Keeping up speed can be important. Other reasons as well. This one is a raider, hence the very high range. (also helped with seakeeping, but I could always fiddle with freeboard) For the BBs, well the MK is done being a coastal only force. There are bigger fish to fry that require moving away from the shore. but thets not completely jack the thread.

I like the design, its a good little CL