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Started by Blooded, September 22, 2010, 05:13:53 PM

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Blooded

August

News of The Reformist Republic of China's unprovoked attack on The Middle Kingdom brings alarm throughout the Duma. This conflict is NOT considered a 'Civil War' by Russians. The RRC has been a separate nation and at peace with the MK for many years. As arguments begin on how to respond to this new conflict, Emperor Andrei(who ultimately controls the Russian military) begins contacting VIPs and making plans to assist the ancient beleagured realm of Emperor Kaili.

A Dutch 'trade mission' contacts High level members of the Duma seeking clearance for passage of "trade goods" and "tourists" across the breadth of Russia to points east.

It has been announced that Emperor Andrei Alexandrovich Romanov will be getting married to his lifelong friend the Countess Maria Illarionovna Vorontsova-Dashkova in May of 1920.
"The black earth was sown with bones and watered with blood... for a harvest of sorrow on the land of Rus'. "
   -The Armament of Igor

Blooded

September

Empress Regent Xenia, Emperor Andrei and Countess Maria along with many russian nobility and high level businessmen attend the coronation of Wielka Ksiezna Margita in Kiev.

The Russian Volunteer Corps(RVC) has been created to assist the Middle Kingdom in its struggle. Strangely, almost entirely consisting of White Guard officers and troopers.

With the Ratification of the Russo-Dutch Agreement the doors are opened to 'tourists' and supplies to journey from Baltic ports and Bavaria to the Far East. Unofficially, BRNO labeled supplies have been crossing Russia for some time.
"The black earth was sown with bones and watered with blood... for a harvest of sorrow on the land of Rus'. "
   -The Armament of Igor

Blooded

October

From other news thread
"As the Rift War appears to be ending, Russia has announced its displeasure in the terms that have been leaked(it seems harsh as hell). And wonders why there is no mention of the swiss in the terms?"

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The large increase in volume of Trans-siberian rail traffic has lead to the calling up of the entire Railway Corps. Previously only a few brigades had been mobilized.

The numbers of the RVG have been steadily increasing, it is expected they could see action soon.
"The black earth was sown with bones and watered with blood... for a harvest of sorrow on the land of Rus'. "
   -The Armament of Igor

Ithekro

What exactly was the deal Rohan was involved with Russia about?  Did it go through?  Who would benefit?

damocles

Quote from: Logi on September 23, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
Right.

I might be wrong, it's not an occurance that doesn't happen. But a better agruement would be appreciated.

Holland conducted Fleet Problem IV using the NRDN comsec and sigint during the Rift War. What makes you think that it has changed its operational art? Its in the Holland News what it has done. In fact it happens right now in front of you. That has not changed as the Ottomans, New Swiss, French, Italy, and even the MK can attest.

Wait for the hammer.

Logi

#20
QuoteWait for the hammer.
Tone down the rudeness.

Now an interesting bit. I can not find research for 1912 Signal Tech anywhere in your sim reports. I know since as of 1916/H2, the Netherlands had 1905 signal tech and one half of research into 1912 signals was done (Korpen's 1916/H1 report), but since then, no research was put into it. Thus a mysteriously appearing tech.

Signals is, as noted by CT, a double time tech, an assertion I am unsure of. Even if not, the secret integration, for which it might possibly be, is recorded to have happened for only one half, 1916/H2 in your report. Which means, you never put the money to finish it.

Oh and I found Korpen's 1916/H2 sim report, you didn't have to run a makeup report for that half. http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=3925.0

Sachmle

QuoteSignals/Intelligence

Note:  Had been a "secret" tech for a while.

1895:  Ability to create simple codes (if a player requests this ability.)
1900:  Ability to use and break simple codes, bored crews at wireless stations listening to radio traffic
1905:  Basic encoding protocols, dedicated radio and telegraph line listening stations
1912:  Centralized cryptographic institutions, enforced radio discipline, Room 40
1920:  Primitive mechanical encoding/decoding machines etc.

Directly from the "Rules" No where does it say "Double Time Tech".
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

ctwaterman

Quote from: Sachmle on September 23, 2010, 09:50:35 PM
QuoteSignals/Intelligence

Note:  Had been a "secret" tech for a while.

1895:  Ability to create simple codes (if a player requests this ability.)
1900:  Ability to use and break simple codes, bored crews at wireless stations listening to radio traffic
1905:  Basic encoding protocols, dedicated radio and telegraph line listening stations
1912:  Centralized cryptographic institutions, enforced radio discipline, Room 40
1920:  Primitive mechanical encoding/decoding machines etc.

Directly from the "Rules" No where does it say "Double Time Tech".

Hmmm oh well I thought all the Secret Techs were double time.... oh well I guess I completed Digesting that tech  already and on to newer and better Techs.... ;)
Just Browsing nothing to See Move Along

Sachmle

Quote from: ctwaterman on September 23, 2010, 09:54:43 PM
Hmmm oh well I thought all the Secret Techs were double time.... oh well I guess I completed Digesting that tech  already and on to newer and better Techs.... ;)
QuoteNote:  Had been a "secret" tech for a while.
Keyword in this case.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Logi

Either ways, one half is not enough to finish, research or digestion. ;)

Blooded

Logi,

Do you really want to get started on mysteriously appearing/finished techs? You have many of those. I still have all my research if you want me to dig it back up.  ::)
"The black earth was sown with bones and watered with blood... for a harvest of sorrow on the land of Rus'. "
   -The Armament of Igor

damocles

Quote from: Logi on September 23, 2010, 06:40:45 PM
QuoteWait for the hammer.
Tone down the rudeness.

Who is being rude?

QuoteNow an interesting bit. I can not find research for 1912 Signal Tech anywhere in your sim reports. I know since as of 1916/H2, the Netherlands had 1905 signal tech and one half of research into 1912 signals was done (Korpen's 1916/H1 report), but since then, no research was put into it. Thus a mysteriously appearing tech.

http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=4993.msg59829#msg59829

Right here in black and white. Sigint from 1916-1919  

QuoteSignals is, as noted by CT, a double time tech, an assertion I am unsure of. Even if not, the secret integration, for which it might possibly be, is recorded to have happened for only one half, 1916/H2 in your report. Which means, you never put the money to finish it.

You are looking in the wrong place and not in complete possession of all facts.

QuoteOh and I found Korpen's 1916/H2 sim report, you didn't have to run a makeup report for that half. http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=3925.0
OOC and SECRET
The funny thing is that the The Rock Doctor and I discussed this when we discussed the Rift War incident, Fleet Problem IV, and your declaration of war speech, as well as my penetrating New Swiss communications traffic. I showed him my allocations for sigint, and he agreed that I had the tech bought and paid for and now in use.

I may not be as slick on some of the rules as some, but I ask before I do something when I am not sure, Logi.

I have the 1912 sigint tech as of 2H1919.

D.

Logi

QuoteWho is being rude?
You are with the "BOOM" and "Wait for the hammer." comments.

QuoteI have the 1912 sigint tech as of 2H1919.
Well I didn't see that, so good to know.

damocles

#28
Quote from: Logi on September 24, 2010, 07:31:13 AM
QuoteWho is being rude?
You are with the "BOOM" and "Wait for the hammer." comments.

You need to review your own comments and presumptions.  
QuoteI have the 1912 sigint tech as of 2H1919.
Well I didn't see that, so good to know.

Please ask before you declare that you know what I do or plan. I had to change my mind about the Civil War because I was wrong, check myself on self-loading rifles because I was wrong, revise an aviation ship four times so I got it right, make sure that legacy  Munchkin destroyers were reformatted to be historical and plausible, see some orders that I mangled through my own fault, get blown up so that what I planned didn't work out as I intended, and you don't see me complain about, it or argue that the outcome or ruling was unfair to me, or that some player has toys I don't have.

The moderators ruled I couldn't have the items about that I later revised or asked, so I don't have the items. Where they ruled I have the items, I have the items.        
You will notice that I don't have Pantserarmie MK OST or twin engine bombers or rocket artillery "fluff" or any of that other stuff-not yet available in the KoN tech tree? You will notice that I do USE the sigint I have in peace and war and that what tech I PLAN to use next is clearly labeled as to year introduced in my tech tree and in my news postings?

In sum, I fight under the 1920 rules NOW, and I don't complain about the other player(s) what they have and use NOW, until they catch up to the 1920 rules as to be adopted.

So yeah, there will be quite a BOOM when that happens. Everyone will be shocked, just some now, and some later. I take my pain now.    

Logi

QuotePlease ask before you declare that you know what I do or plan.
I didn't declare that anywhere. You're overreacting.