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[damocles]

That last Cruiser with 4 guns was an interesting design I always figured 6 main guns was the minimum... either that or its a very fast Pre Dreadnaught with all the disadvantages drop off the speed and she would make a good heavy monotior.

Oh... an its too Early for Dual Purpose Secondaries not their quite yet.

I remember 1926 as the agreed IOC for DPs.

For cruisers (frigates) right now, the KM rejects mixed armament and with our tech limits sees QF 120s, (125s in new construction) as anti-destroyer guns. I think the KoN will move away from the 240mm and either go 150mm or 125 mm all common for its light cruisers. The frigates I haven't decided yet.       

As to torpedoes right now it has proven that you need more and better secondaries to smash a really determined, suicidal charge by massed destroyers.  Supported by a few cruisers.   So several nations are looking into heavier Secondary batteries and also looking at better secondary fire control and coordination.  I mean good lord there may have been 60 Torpedo Boats and small destroyers  but thats a 2 Battle Ships in the Body and fender shop.....

Yeah. About that, I'm still shaking my head over that naval battle. It was bizarre. The need for more KoN KM screening vessels seems to be more important than just throwing a few more guns on a battlewagon during my next refit.   

Also time too look at more modernization in the below water damage control and torpedo defenses.   The Torpedo used by New Swiss and New Zion were mostly a generation out of date and still quite effective even if they did loose hundreds of destroyers to achieve their desired aim.

We don't have many rules for that.

As to air power in the game some people are building some experimental aircarft tenders and carriers a plane launched fighter shot down a patroling Zepplin in the recent rift war ;)  But the Zepplin was flying low and not expecting the attack.

KMS Crapfest program. That is also 1926.

Aircraft in the Rift War and now In China are launching small 16" torps and getting hits occassionaly but usually in small numbers.  So for now twin engined aircraft operating withing say 150 NM of their shore bases on the threat to ships.  Level bombing of ships in harbor and at sea has been tried.  I think we got a hit on one in a harbor.   I also doubt it was the ship the pilot was aiming at but there were so many targets available ;D

Most MK losses have been surface and submarine launched weapons. I think the DVK may have gotten one RRC submarine as a shared aircraft recon/surface ship assisted kill, but nothing publicly reported as a pure aircraft to surface ship kill yet. 

[Laertes]

Okay, here are two more ships delivered as per the Orange order. First, the Canterbury, a heavy treaty BC, with the new 42cm/L45 gun. Unfortunately, while we tried to design a turret that would fit on both this and the Auckland, below (in order to make both manufacturing and repair standardised, and hence easier), the weight of 14" armour on such a slender ship made her top-heavy.

Frankly, we at BLU found the weight of the 42cm/L45 guns a major constraint in the design of both ships, but are prepared to accept that such treaty-limited guns are going to be the standard of the future.

Canterbury, BLU Battlecruiser laid down 1922

Displacement:
   32,718 t light; 34,619 t standard; 40,219 t normal; 44,700 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   726.35 ft / 720.00 ft x 98.00 ft x 38.00 ft (normal load)
   221.39 m / 219.46 m x 29.87 m  x 11.58 m

Armament:
     8 - 16.54" / 420 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,260.56lbs / 1,025.37kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1922 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
     6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
     12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 19,485 lbs / 8,838 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   530.00 ft / 161.54 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 113 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.00" / 25 mm   530.00 ft / 161.54 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 159,992 shp / 119,354 Kw = 30.51 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 20.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 10,081 tons

Complement:
   1,419 - 1,846

Cost:
   £10.775 million / $43.100 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,436 tons, 6.1 %
   Armour: 9,189 tons, 22.8 %
      - Belts: 2,129 tons, 5.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 235 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armament: 2,173 tons, 5.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 4,450 tons, 11.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 202 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 5,427 tons, 13.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,365 tons, 38.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7,502 tons, 18.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 0.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     40,837 lbs / 18,524 Kg = 18.1 x 16.5 " / 420 mm shells or 4.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 5.7 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 17.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 48 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.86
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.525
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.35 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      36.00 ft / 10.97 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   36.00 ft / 10.97 m (22.00 ft / 6.71 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Quarterdeck (33 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Stern:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Average freeboard:   24.80 ft / 7.56 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 113.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 142.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 48,107 Square feet or 4,469 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 206 lbs/sq ft or 1,004 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.86
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent



Secondly, we have her slower, nastier sister, the Auckland. She's designed to behave similarly to the Kaap Delgado, although the weight of her armour and armament make a larger hull necessary.

Auckland, BLU Battleship laid down 1922

Displacement:
   33,066 t light; 34,934 t standard; 38,205 t normal; 40,821 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   710.00 ft / 710.00 ft x 102.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
   216.41 m / 216.41 m x 31.09 m  x 9.75 m

Armament:
      8 - 16.54" / 420 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,260.56lbs / 1,025.37kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
      16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 19,574 lbs / 8,879 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   15.7" / 399 mm   390.00 ft / 118.87 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 85 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.50" / 38 mm   390.00 ft / 118.87 m   38.00 ft / 11.58 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   14.0" / 356 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      14.0" / 356 mm
   2nd:   8.00" / 203 mm   4.00" / 102 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower: 15.70" / 399 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 62,864 shp / 46,896 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 16.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,888 tons

Complement:
   1,366 - 1,776

Cost:
   £9.576 million / $38.303 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,447 tons, 6.4 %
   Armour: 13,075 tons, 34.2 %
      - Belts: 4,402 tons, 11.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 823 tons, 2.2 %
      - Armament: 3,630 tons, 9.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,836 tons, 10.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 384 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,132 tons, 5.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,112 tons, 39.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,139 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     51,318 lbs / 23,277 Kg = 22.7 x 16.5 " / 420 mm shells or 8.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 17.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.47

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.577
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.96 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      35.00 ft / 10.67 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   35.00 ft / 10.67 m (19.00 ft / 5.79 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Quarterdeck (33 %):   19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Stern:      19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.20 ft / 6.77 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 51,838 Square feet or 4,816 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 207 lbs/sq ft or 1,009 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.46
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily



Please do give me feedback, I'm learning constantly, and would welcome criticism.

Post modified - sims have been restored as per customer request.

[Jefgte]

BC

Range 9,000nm at 20.00 kts

What a high cruising speed
Lenght is over 220m...

You must have much BPs to built this kind of ship
-------------------
BB

Main:   15.7" / 399 mm   

Too heavy armor
...


Jef

[Nobody]

Thanks, they look better than anything I have come up with so far. I will have to analyze them.

But,

• at 221.5 m the Canterbury is 1.5 m too long for a Type 3(?) slip/dock
  
• 11.5 m draft are excessive, remember that is normal displacement, the full ship will be another meter or so deeper
  
• 3.66 m is much too narrow for the main belt, as the draft alone changes about 2 m between full and empty ship alone, not to mention waves or movement
  
• both ships are pretty narrow, although their length to beam ratios are OK
  

[Logi]

The Canterbury, going at 30kts, creates a bow wave whose crest and trough is 2.69m. Combined witht he 2-3m waves in South Africa and more than a bit of unarmored is exposed.

[maddox]

There is no treaty limit to main gun size.

The Treaty of Richmond just gives a cap on light weight, 35Kton , with the exception for 2 "flag ships" of 40 Kton.

If you want to fit a 800mm L42 Dora on a 40 Kton vessel, nobody will stop you.

[Laertes]

What a high cruising speed
Lenght is over 220m...

Oddly enough (I hadn't expected it, but Springsharp is full of surprises) increasing her cruising speed to that level radically helped with her seamanship values, which meant I could get away with her being as top-heavy as she is.

Too heavy armor

We at BLU believe that, with the massive guns that are currently being produced, 14" main belt cannot be relied upon to stop the weapons that are likely to be developed in the 1920s.

at 221.5 m the Canterbury is 1.5 m too long for a Type 3(?) slip/dock

...

Is it overall length that counts, not waterline length? If so, BUGGER. I'd planned her to be exactly buildable within a type-3 dock. Ah well, redesign time.

11.5 m draft are excessive, remember that is normal displacement, the full ship will be another meter or so deeper
3.66 m is much too narrow for the main belt, as the draft alone changes about 2 m between full and empty ship alone, not to mention waves or movement

The Canterbury, going at 30kts, creates a bow wave whose crest and trough is 2.69m. Combined witht he 2-3m waves in South Africa and more than a bit of unarmored is exposed.

These are good points. If we widen her and reduce the draft, we can probably gain some more weight capacity which will allow us to add more height to the armour belt.

There is no treaty limit to main gun size.

The Treaty of Richmond just gives a cap on light weight, 35Kton , with the exception for 2 "flag ships" of 40 Kton.

If you want to fit a 800mm L42 Dora on a 40 Kton vessel, nobody will stop you.

True. However, if you want to fit a 80cm mortar onto a 40kt vessel, you're going to have to be a better naval engineer than I am.

[Nobody]

I came up against the same problem when designing the BLU Canterbury. I solved it with a deeper keel and higher cruising speed - neither of which I'd *expected* as solutions, but they seemed to work.

Well higher cruising speed = larger bunkers which springsharp might assume as counterweights of some sort. Other things that might help is a longer sleeker hull. I think that springsharp has some kind of "optimal" draft that gives the highest see rating, more draft does not always help in this regard.

[Valles]

In regards to Auckland's belt - as much as I love thick armor, I've been advised in the past by the mods that armor thicker than 15" isn't to be considered technically feasible at this point.

Given she was laid down before Richmond, that's the only reason Cross Mirage's hide isn't even thicker than it already is.

[Ithekro]

Through experimentation I found that the only way to ship Dora in a turret is to build the H44.  He can carry two (and only two) in single mount turrets fore and aft.  At least that is what I remember from the experiment...thought SS2 might have classes them has full length naval guns.   

[maddox]

Correct, 15" is seen as the maximum thickness that is achivable with consistent and reliable results.

The problem isn't "can we make a thicker, face hardened plate of Nickelsteel", but "can we make thicker facehardened nickelsteel plates for the same pricetag per tonne as the commercial available plates".

For the Maorians, if Valles accepts this explanation, it was just a question of diminishing return on investment.
In 191X the factories possible capable to cast, roll and harden thicker than 15" plate were just too expensive for the government to warant that money.

[Laertes]

Ah well, back to the drawing board.

[Ithekro]

Ponderance.  What about a American Civil War style armor pattern?  The United States could not roll iron plate over 2" in the early 1860s.  They would overlap plates to make it work since USS Monitor had 11" of iron on the turret using 1" plates.

It is not as strong a solid plate but it could be thicker.  Also if the plate gets knocked off by heavy fire the next plate is still there.

[Laertes]

Okay. Since neither of the previous two were legal (waterline length for the Canterbury, armour thickness for the Auckland, I've redone them. In light of a comment from the customer, the beam has been increased and the draft reduced. This has made it necessary to reduce the armament of the Canterbury from four turrets to three, and to remove the torpedo bulkhead.

Canterbury, BLU Treaty Battlecruiser laid down 1922

Displacement:
   31,410 t light; 32,949 t standard; 36,061 t normal; 38,550 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   720.00 ft / 720.00 ft x 132.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
   219.46 m / 219.46 m x 40.23 m  x 9.75 m

Armament:
      6 - 16.54" / 420 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2,260.56lbs / 1,025.37kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1922 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 14,532 lbs / 6,592 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 157,858 shp / 117,762 Kw = 31.00 kts
   Range 9,000nm at 16.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,601 tons

Complement:
   1,307 - 1,700

Cost:
   £9.204 million / $36.817 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,816 tons, 5.0 %
   Armour: 8,033 tons, 22.3 %
      - Belts: 2,966 tons, 8.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,602 tons, 4.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,277 tons, 9.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 188 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 5,355 tons, 14.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,906 tons, 44.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,651 tons, 12.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 0.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     41,654 lbs / 18,894 Kg = 18.4 x 16.5 " / 420 mm shells or 4.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 9.0 ft / 2.7 m
   Roll period: 18.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.415
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.45 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.83 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 79
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      30.00 ft / 9.14 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   30.00 ft / 9.14 m (20.00 ft / 6.10 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (33 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Stern:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:   22.00 ft / 6.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 87.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 59,050 Square feet or 5,486 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 210 lbs/sq ft or 1,027 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 1.76
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform





Secondly, the Auckland. This one was easier - every engineer loves it when the target becomes less of a stretch, uncommon though that happy situation may be.

Auckland, BLU Treaty Battleship laid down 1922

Displacement:
   34,486 t light; 36,364 t standard; 38,944 t normal; 41,009 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   680.00 ft / 680.00 ft x 108.00 ft x 32.00 ft (normal load)
   207.26 m / 207.26 m x 32.92 m  x 9.75 m

Armament:
      8 - 16.54" / 420 mm guns (4x2 guns), 2,260.56lbs / 1,025.37kg shells, 1922 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1922 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
      12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 19,512 lbs / 8,850 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   15.0" / 381 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   16.00 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      2.20" / 56 mm   410.00 ft / 124.97 m   38.00 ft / 11.58 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.0" / 381 mm   8.00" / 203 mm      15.0" / 381 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 4.30" / 109 mm, Conning tower: 15.00" / 381 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 65,173 shp / 48,619 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,645 tons

Complement:
   1,385 - 1,801

Cost:
   £9.723 million / $38.894 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2,439 tons, 6.3 %
   Armour: 13,991 tons, 35.9 %
      - Belts: 4,386 tons, 11.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,268 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armament: 3,773 tons, 9.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 4,194 tons, 10.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 371 tons, 1.0 %
   Machinery: 2,211 tons, 5.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,345 tons, 39.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,458 tons, 11.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     53,606 lbs / 24,315 Kg = 23.7 x 16.5 " / 420 mm shells or 9.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
   Metacentric height 6.6 ft / 2.0 m
   Roll period: 17.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 64 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.67
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0.580
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.08 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 43
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      36.00 ft / 10.97 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   36.00 ft / 10.97 m (20.00 ft / 6.10 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (33 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Stern:      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Average freeboard:   23.20 ft / 7.07 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 52,716 Square feet or 4,897 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 210 lbs/sq ft or 1,024 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.65
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[maddox]

Both previous desings are legal, just not cost efficient with the infrastructure available.