Would this work as a tender?

Sachmle · July 27, 2010, 10:21:06 PM

V-101, Deutsche Reich Versorgungsschiff laid down 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   6,485 t light; 6,692 t standard; 9,470 t normal; 11,693 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   393.70 ft / 393.70 ft x 65.62 ft x 19.72 ft (normal load)
   120.00 m / 120.00 m x 20.00 m x 6.01 m

Armament:
2 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 101.41lbs / 46.00kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loadng guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
     on centreline amidships, 1 raised gun
4 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1920 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 207 lbs / 94 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm     -           -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm     -           -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 17.07 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2,756 tons at 90% coal
+ 8,410nm at 12.00kts (Bunkerage = 2,245 tons) as below deck miscellaneous weight.


Complement:
   479 - 623

Cost:
   £0.781 million / $3.125 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 26 tons, 0.3 %
   Armour: 7 tons, 0.1 %
     - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Armament: 7 tons, 0.1 %
     - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 582 tons, 6.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,469 tons, 26.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,985 tons, 31.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 3,400 tons, 35.9 %
+2,245 tons simulated as bunkerage

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19,313 lbs / 8,760 Kg = 187.5 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 14.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.651
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Forecastle (25 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Mid (50 %):      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Stern:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Average freeboard:   23.13 ft / 7.05 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,802 Square feet or 1,840 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 198 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 391 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.79
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

3,400t simmed as misc + 2,245t simmed as fuel = 5,645t total Misc weight
2000t = Accommodations for 1000 enlisted men
1000t = Accommodations for 250 officers
1000t = Fuel
800t = Workshops and parts
200t = Ordnance reloads
300t = Amenities (library, canteen, ect.)
200t = Derricks
50t = Medical facilities
25t = Command facilities
25t = Long Range Wireless
45t = Weight Reserve

Sachmle · July 31, 2010, 08:23:58 AM

Hmm..no comments so I guess it's fine. Cool.

maddox · July 31, 2010, 08:34:49 AM

Strange ship for a tender. She feels more like a floating command center.

QuoteA tender is an auxiliary which can supply all the amenities of a port, to some degree. It generally carries accommodation space and amenities for crews of small vessels, workshops, warehouses, stores, and fuel. Up to half of the weight of these facilties may be simmed as extra fuel bunkerage; the remainder may only be simmed as miscellaneous weight. Regardless, it all counts as functional miscelleneous weight for the purposes of costing.

For every thousand tonnes of facilities aboard the tender, four thousand tonnes of shipping may use the tender as their "port".

Sachmle · July 31, 2010, 08:38:01 AM

She'd either be a submarine or torpedoboat tender. In future, perhaps a MTB tender.

maddox · July 31, 2010, 09:00:34 AM

Then I would re-distribute the misc weight. Now she has more of a troop transport than a tender.

In theorie she only can support 3200 tons of shipping now. With some juggling (and removing most, if not all long term berting- you can charter a liner for that) you can turn her into a tender for a lot more shipping.

Sachmle · July 31, 2010, 09:02:45 AM

V-101, Deutsche Reich Versorgungsschiff laid down 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   6,485 t light; 6,692 t standard; 9,470 t normal; 11,693 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   393.70 ft / 393.70 ft x 65.62 ft x 19.72 ft (normal load)
   120.00 m / 120.00 m x 20.00 m x 6.01 m

Armament:
2 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 101.41lbs / 46.00kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loadng guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft gun in deck mount
     on centreline amidships, 1 raised gun
4 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1920 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 207 lbs / 94 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm     -           -
   2nd:   0.59" / 15 mm     -           -
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm     -           -

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9,000 ihp / 6,714 Kw = 17.07 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2,756 tons at 90% coal
+ 8,410nm at 12.00kts (Bunkerage = 2,245 tons) as below deck miscellaneous weight.


Complement:
   479 - 623

Cost:
   £0.781 million / $3.125 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 26 tons, 0.3 %
   Armour: 7 tons, 0.1 %
     - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Armament: 7 tons, 0.1 %
     - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 582 tons, 6.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,469 tons, 26.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,985 tons, 31.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 3,400 tons, 35.9 %
+2,245 tons simulated as bunkerage

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19,313 lbs / 8,760 Kg = 187.5 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
   Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 14.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
   Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.651
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
     - Forecastle (25 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Mid (50 %):      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Stern:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
     - Average freeboard:   23.13 ft / 7.05 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 19,802 Square feet or 1,840 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 198 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 80 lbs/sq ft or 391 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.79
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

3,400t simmed as misc + 2,245t simmed as fuel = 5,645t total Misc weight
1500t = Fuel
2500t = Workshops and parts
1000t = Ordnance reloads
500t = Derricks
50t = Medical facilities
25t = Command facilities
25t = Long Range Wireless
45t = Weight Reserve

maddox · July 31, 2010, 09:21:41 AM

Now she can at least support a heavy cruiser or a flottila of DD's.

ctwaterman · July 31, 2010, 10:16:43 AM

To me it looks like all 5000 tons of that ship is dedicated to tender duties, long term berthing, extra munitions, Extra Fuel are all tender duties....

so 5 x 4K tons =20,000 tons of ships this vessel can support.

Charles