Egyptian Air Corps

Started by Darman, July 22, 2010, 09:17:06 PM

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Darman

July 22, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
Egypt is looking for an aircraft line they could buy/lease the rights to produce or make a deal with a particular company to open a factory in Egypt to produce X Corporation's aircraft of certain types.  The best example I can think of (in the real world) is when Venezuela bought the rights to produce 1 million AK-47s from the Kalishnikov company (whichever company makes them) and built a factory in Venezuela.  Something along those lines...
Hopefully this makes sense :D 

Sachmle

#1
July 22, 2010, 09:21:40 PM
I would think, due to past interaction, that Italy (who is rather advance aeronautically anyway) or France (no slouch either) would be your most likely options.
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Logi

#2
July 22, 2010, 09:24:52 PM
The RRC can provide ;)

ctwaterman

#3
July 22, 2010, 10:09:09 PM


OOC: *looks at the RRC*...

Quietly ships 3000 1918 Fighters to Imperial China
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Logi

#4
July 22, 2010, 10:11:59 PM
What is Egypt next on your expansion plans? I can't even give good will gifts to nations you're not fighting?

(Also good luck wasting all that BP when Imperial China doesn't have the airfield capacity).

ciders

#5
July 23, 2010, 03:23:22 AM
I think that Egypt should buy reconnaissance planes. It's a cheap solution for support your troops, in the desert for example.

And a few number of fighters, for the defence of Cairo and Alexandria.
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Carthaginian

#6
July 23, 2010, 05:42:38 AM
The CSA offers the following light, multi-purpose design to Egypt...
Though it is a small plane, it has a three hour endurance, a 90 m.p.h. top speed, and the capability to carry 125 pounds of bombs. It would make an excellent light scout aircraft and can also be used as a superiority fighter (loosing the floats would probably gain you 5 m.p.h. using it as a land based plane). It is available with floats or wheels.

Armed with one synchronized .30 caliber machinegun (.30-06/7.62x63mm).



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ctwaterman

#7
July 23, 2010, 07:11:01 AM Last Edit: July 23, 2010, 09:18:29 AM by ctwaterman
Per existing treaty the Empire of Italia offers Egyptian Military officers to come view the current Imperial Aeronautica inventory and to select a few aircraft for testing to see if they meet Egypts needs.   Once a suitable aircraft has been found favorable terms can be found to help Egypt and the Aircrafts manufacturer to build a factory in egypt to produce the aircraft type or types chosen.
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TexanCowboy

#8
July 23, 2010, 07:05:16 PM
Why wouldn't you offer the standard Confederate Pup?....

Romania offers the 1910 Conada.....*runs away*  ;D

What, it fits in with my reputation....

Logi

#9
July 23, 2010, 07:12:53 PM
I was threatened into stopping :'(

The RRC Airlines (TACO, LAD, etc.) withdraws from the bid for the production license due to foreign and domestic considerations outside of Egypt and the Republic of China.

Carthaginian

#10
July 23, 2010, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: TexanCowboy on July 23, 2010, 07:05:16 PM
Why wouldn't you offer the standard Confederate Pup?....

The Baby and the Pup are very close in performance, once you take into account the drag/weight added by the floats. Removing them will pretty much set the two on par. The CSA offered the Baby as a way to help expand production of this aircraft in the face of minimum domestic demand.

OoC - The CSA is looking to make this its standard shipb... er, floatplane fighter, and wants a larger production run to more effectively gauge the aircraft against foreign competitors.

Much like the USA selling the F-14 to Iran in order to have them fly against Iraqi MiG's.
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Guinness

#11
July 23, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: Carthaginian on July 23, 2010, 08:33:38 PM
Much like the USA selling the F-14 to Iran in order to have them fly against Iraqi MiG's.

Tangent time: this is an interesting take on the sale of the F-14 to Iran. Nixon is famous for "opening the cupboard" when he visited the Shah in 1972, offering all of the United States' advanced (non-nuclear) weapons systems for sale. They chose the Tomcat over the F-15 mostly because of the promised performance of the phoenix missile in the long-range intercept mission, as I understand it.

A perfectly valid historical question about what Nixon's motivations were in '72 for this sale. Some of his biographers have pegged Iran as Nixon trying to assure that another Vietnam scenario didn't happen in the middle east. Certainly at the time Iran was just about the only western-leaning major Islamic state in the region, with most of the Sunni states firmly aligned with the Warsaw Pact or leaning that way (with the possible exception of the anglophile Saudis at least).

I've not read anywhere about there being a stated case for the sale based on trying out US weapons systems in Iran. Certainly if that was the strategy, Israel would have been the better option, just based on figuring out who was most likely to use them in anger. Then again, the Israelis did buy the F-15.

miketr

#12
July 23, 2010, 09:58:27 PM
Supporting Iran was part of a policy of preventing the Soviets from having direct air access to the Gulf; as I recall from readings a few years back.

Note that Turkey a NATO member and Iran block the Soviets border.  The biggest investment was aircraft, a sophisticated air control system and large amounts of HAWK Missile batteries.  Yes there were other things like the Kidd class DDG but the air stuff was the largest.

Michael

Darman

#13
July 23, 2010, 09:59:01 PM
The Egyptian Army Research and Development Team (yes, we are so backwards that we only have one) is reviewing the various designs put forward.  The King will review the ARD team's findings and make a decision.  

Darman

#14
July 23, 2010, 10:03:33 PM
I read a book a few years ago, I can't recall the name and google is no help (wars in the middle east brings up recent events and thats it).  The book was about a surprise Soviet invasion of Iran (for the oil) because the Soviets didn't think they could win in Europe.  I don't really remember too much other than a lot of tank combat... But I do believe some of the highest casualties during any big shooting war between somewhat even sides was supposed to be amongst aircraft. 
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