Cruisers

Started by hooper82, March 19, 2009, 08:31:47 AM

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hooper82

<_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
<foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
<foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
<foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
<FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"

hooper82

#1
Conde class Armored Cruiser (Laid Down 1899)

Displacement:
   8.487 t light; 8.883 t standard; 9.913 t normal; 10.737 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   393,70 ft / 391,40 ft x 65,62 ft x 22,15 ft (normal load)
   120,00 m / 119,30 m x 20,00 m  x 6,75 m

Armament:
      2 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns in single mounts, 865,70lbs / 392,68kg shells, 1899 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      12 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,98kg shells, 1899 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
     12 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
      8 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm guns in single mounts, 3,17lbs / 1,44kg shells, 1899 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 2.761 lbs / 1.253 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 120
   4 - 18" / 457,2 mm submerged torpedo tubes, 2 each side.*

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   254,41 ft / 77,54 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   2,00" / 51 mm   136,97 ft / 41,75 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Upper:   4,00" / 102 mm   254,41 ft / 77,54 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100% of normal length
     Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6,00" / 152 mm   6,00" / 152 mm      6,00" / 152 mm
   2nd:   4,00" / 102 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1,25" / 32 mm, Conning tower: 5,00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 20.460 ihp / 15.263 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 11,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1.854 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   496 - 645

Cost:
   £1,042 million / $4,167 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 345 tons, 3,5%
   Armour: 2.038 tons, 20,6%
      - Belts: 1.135 tons, 11,4%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 415 tons, 4,2%
      - Armour Deck: 438 tons, 4,4%
      - Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0,5%
   Machinery: 3.248 tons, 32,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.757 tons, 27,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1.426 tons, 14,4%
   Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1,0%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5.811 lbs / 2.636 Kg = 6,7 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
   Metacentric height 4,7 ft / 1,4 m
   Roll period: 12,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,27
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,610
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,97 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,78 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2,30 ft / 0,70 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21,72 ft / 6,62 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Mid (50%):      14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   13,85 ft / 4,22 m
      - Stern:      13,12 ft / 4,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   14,97 ft / 4,56 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105,7%
   Waterplane Area: 18.960 Square feet or 1.761 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 87%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 494 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,93
      - Longitudinal: 1,85
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Small armored cruiser, successor of the huge Gloire class  heavy protected cruiser.
Increased main gun size and a diminished secundary to quintary battery and a total different armor lay out resulted in a class of ships a lot smaller than the 3 Gloires.

They became the mainstay cruiser of the French marine.  The large class of ships build in different yards at different times following the same plans with yard specific florishes make that the capabilities are the same, but that the ships have their own differences.

Misc weight allocation
25 tons for the underwater torpedo tubes
50 tons crew comfort
25 large marconi
<_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
<foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
<foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
<foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
<FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"

hooper82

#2
Davout class Light Cruiser (Laid Down 1901)



Displacement:
   2,995 t light; 3,109 t standard; 3,681 t normal; 4,138 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   393.70 ft / 393.70 ft x 32.81 ft x 13.12 ft (normal load)
   120.00 m / 120.00 m x 10.00 m  x 4.00 m

Armament:
      5 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1901 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 3 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 2.76" / 70.0 mm guns in single mounts, 10.47lbs / 4.75kg shells, 1901 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1901 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 470 lbs / 213 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 18.0" / 457.2 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   295.28 ft / 90.00 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.59" / 15 mm            -
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 0.98" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5,988 ihp / 4,467 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,029 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   236 - 307

Cost:
   £0.283 million / $1.132 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 59 tons, 1.6 %
   Armour: 380 tons, 10.3 %
      - Belts: 155 tons, 4.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 21 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 199 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0.1 %
   Machinery: 921 tons, 25.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,602 tons, 43.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 686 tons, 18.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 33 tons, 0.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,244 lbs / 1,472 Kg = 38.8 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 12.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 94 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.92
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.88

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.760
   Length to Beam Ratio: 12.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Mid (50 %):      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Stern:      13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   13.39 ft / 4.08 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,912 Square feet or 1,014 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 85 lbs/sq ft or 413 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.48
      - Longitudinal: 1.96
      - Overall: 1.52
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

18 Ton's for Torpedoes (18 Total, 3 salvos)
15 Ton's for Crew Comfort
<_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
<foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
<foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
<foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
<FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"