New Government in Holland.

[damocles]

NRDN offices.\

K: Have you read this? 

Guangzhou Plaza, the Speech is transmitted to the crowd and on radio to the whole nation.

Citizens of the Glorious Republic, I stand here before you, to address you all. It has been eight years since the hard fighting during the Great Revolution to overthrow corruption and oppression. It has been six years since we achieved our freedom. Some have asked, have we reached the revolution's goals? The answer is no. We have not. Our revolution lies incomplete, stalled, a project left unfinished.

These questions, this hopelessly optimistic attitude that I find instilled in many of our nation's citizens, saddens me greatly. It has been but six years, yet the struggles of a momentous time have been forgotten. The people have learned comfort in false safety.

This is a stern reminder to all those who think the revolution is over, our enemies are still out there, taunting us, with their barbaric acts, their oppression under the guise of freedom. We know, we suffered a similar oppression.

Do we, as Chinese, stand by whilst our friend, our neighbor, our brother, sister, father or mother suffers? No! That is not who we are, we are not so morally lacking. Citizens! Can you not hear their cries for help, their pleads filling with the stories of bloodshed and chaos? How can we stand to profit whilst the people are suffering, how can we pretend it does not exist?

We can not turn a blind eye to this problem. This is our problem, and it must be solved by our own hands. Too far have they provoked us, and continue to mock us. Prepare for war, citizens, our enemies will be taught fear and discipline and the people shall be liberated by our Republic.

Citizens, let every action by dictated by your love for China. Let every citizen mobilize for the revolution. Let us remember why we are living in such comfort. Let us be moved by our obligations and duty to bring justice to the corrupt.

Let us stop speaking with words and start speaking with the clang of hammers, the roars of revolutionary cannons.

Citizens, the country calls for the complete mobilization of your wills and efforts. We can not go back to our state six years ago, we must liberate. Every citizens must do their part, let the revolution and the revolutionary ideals spread.

Let freedom ring from coast to interior, let freedom ring from ocean to ocean. Whether it be those who conduct treacherous acts against the people hiding behind their false democracy or the corrupt dictator, let them hear reason, our reason. And if they can not be convinced, let revolutionary roar replace revolutionary literature.

We have stalled for far too long, our thoughts decayed by luxury. We have lost sight or what is right and what is true, what our mission is, and how to accomplish it. But today! Today, we regain that sight, we throw away corruption, no longer shall we wait for fortune to fall in our laps, but leap up and grab it.

China must be strong! And the only way is for our people to be strong and united in their wills. Let us show the world, we do not speak only. We are not a paper dragon. We are no longer the China that was humiliated decades ago by foreign powers. We are stronger, we are united, we are powerful.

Let the revolutionary anthem ring!

R: "I don't read Cantonese that well, what is it?"

K translates.

R: "Veertig duivels schilderen purper het!"

K: Yes indeed, purple all over. Send it on to the MVB. Let them worry about it.

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Message sent in code.........

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[Logi]

OOC: It's a speech, there is nothing written. Also, Cantonese is heavily slang oriented so Cantonese is very hard to translate if you are not a native speaker and not constantly there. Having Cantonese translators is very very rare, especially non-nationals. The chance is slim to none that the Dutch can get a transcript and translate.

[damocles]

NRDN exists for that very reason. There are Cantonese of the NOI, loyal DUTCH citizen Cantonese who can translate this and some of them are in den Hague.

HOW NRDN got the speech is a question for the RRC. Maybe the internal security in the RRC isn't as tight as hoped or maybe somebody just didn't like what they heard and passed it on to us? It matters not.    

Remember I posted about a MVB foreign language school established among other tidbits in this thread? The clues are there.

[Logi]

Impossibility. As I said, Slang. Slang terms evolve in their origin. North Indochina speaks differently from Guangzhou's Cantonese. Hence language differences. Traveling to another part of the world, even two months, you will not understand all Cantonese in Guangzhou. Trust me, I know. This is a language based mostly on slang, if you are detached from it's origin, you will fall out very very quickly.

There is a reason why Cantonese is not taught as a language and that linguist acknowledge the effort as futile.

Furthermore, the question is not internal security, but rather hearing everything and writing it down, when that is not their profession. Noone would pass it on.

Your points are all mute. Most in China have nothing but the village radio to hear it from and internal security is tight.

You do not get to dictate what I leak.

[maddox]

Great.
Let us try it in current day terms.
One or other rapper from Los Angeles goes enterly slang and dialect in the 4th of july speech, and it's hoped for that anybody in the US can understand it, but that non US citizens, even fluent English speakers can't understand it at all.

I see it as a problem. Or only locals can understand the speech, and then a radio transmission is rather "useless". Or the transmission is made in a general language, so everybody with acces to a radio can comprehend it.

And, 1920 has recording devices available. So even the point of "needing a translator at the radio" is moot.

[Logi]

Hmmm quite true. But I still find it extremely opportunistic, really on a few chance probabilities.

You just happened to get your handle on a native from China somehow who was recently from there to translate. (Somehow!)

You just happened to have someone listening in by chance and then by chance as well, chose to record it.

Also, Cantonese is hugely different from English. I speak it well, so I know the differences between what you know of the language in a few months. It is not that you do not understand it at all, it is as though the person speaking cut of every time it came to a word semi-important.

However, Cantonese influence is large, so as long as you are in the great southern region (which does not include Shanghai and Nanjing) there should be people there to keep in line with the slang. The Cantonese influence is much greater than Mandarin in the south, so many more people would understand it. I assume major areas along the coast (which are where most the other dialect speakers are) will be visited soon for the same speech soon, but it will not be radio broadcasted.

I still find the Damocles' post very very opportunistic.

[Logi]

Citizens of the Glorious Republic, I stand here before you, to -------- you all. It has been eight years since the hard fighting during the Great Revolution to overthrow ------------. It has been six years since we achieved our freedom. Some have asked, have we reached the revolution's goals? The answer is no. We have not. Our revolution lies ------------------.

These questions, this ----------------- that I find instilled in many of our nation's citizens, saddens me greatly. It has been but six years, yet the ------------------- have been forgotten. The people have learned comfort in false safety.

This is a stern reminder to all those who think the revolution is over, our enemies are still out there, taunting us, with their -------------------. We know, we suffered a similar ----------.

Do we, as Chinese, stand by whilst our friend, our neighbor, our brother, sister, father or mother suffers? No! That is not who we are, we are not so morally lacking. Citizens! Can you not hear their cries for help, their pleads filling with the stories of bloodshed and chaos? ------------- whilst the people are suffering, ----------------?

----------------- to this problem. This is our problem, and it must be solved by our own hands. Too far have they provoked us, and continue to mock us. Prepare for war, citizens, our enemies will be taught fear and discipline and the people shall be --------------.

Citizens, let every action by dictated by your love for China. Let every citizen -----------. Let us remember why we are ------------. Let us be moved by our obligations and duty to ---------------.

Let us stop speaking with words and start speaking with the clang of hammers, the roars of revolutionary cannons.

Citizens, the country calls for the ---------------. We can not go back to our state six years ago, -------------. Every citizens must do their part, let the revolution and the revolutionary ideals spread.

----------------. Whether it be those who conduct treacherous acts against the people hiding behind their false democracy or the corrupt dictator, let them hear reason, our reason. And if they can --------------, let revolutionary roar replace revolutionary literature.

We have stalled for far too long, -----------------. We have lost sight or what is right and what is true, what our mission is, and how to accomplish it. But today! Today, we regain that sight, ------------------, no longer shall ----------------------, but leap up and grab it.

China must be strong! And the only way is for our people to be strong and united in their wills. Let us show the world, we do not speak only. We are not a paper dragon. We are no longer the China that was humiliated decades ago by foreign powers. We are stronger, we are united, we are powerful.

Let the revolutionary anthem ring!

Is what it would look like on transcript and translated by any Cantonese speaker who has been away a decent amount of time.

Then again, this does not account for the fact that Cantonese slang cannot, unlike English, be written down. There are no official words for writing Cantonese slang, hence it is just simply said.

[damocles]

Citizens of the Glorious Republic, I stand here before you, to -------- you all. It has been eight years since the hard fighting during the Great Revolution to overthrow ------------. It has been six years since we achieved our freedom. Some have asked, have we reached the revolution's goals? The answer is no. We have not. Our revolution lies ------------------.

These questions, this ----------------- that I find instilled in many of our nation's citizens, saddens me greatly. It has been but six years, yet the ------------------- have been forgotten. The people have learned comfort in false safety.

This is a stern reminder to all those who think the revolution is over, our enemies are still out there, taunting us, with their -------------------. We know, we suffered a similar ----------.

Do we, as Chinese, stand by whilst our friend, our neighbor, our brother, sister, father or mother suffers? No! That is not who we are, we are not so morally lacking. Citizens! Can you not hear their cries for help, their pleads filling with the stories of bloodshed and chaos? ------------- whilst the people are suffering, ----------------?

----------------- to this problem. This is our problem, and it must be solved by our own hands. Too far have they provoked us, and continue to mock us. Prepare for war, citizens, our enemies will be taught fear and discipline and the people shall be --------------.

Citizens, let every action by dictated by your love for China. Let every citizen -----------. Let us remember why we are ------------. Let us be moved by our obligations and duty to ---------------.

Let us stop speaking with words and start speaking with the clang of hammers, the roars of revolutionary cannons.

Citizens, the country calls for the ---------------. We can not go back to our state six years ago, -------------. Every citizens must do their part, let the revolution and the revolutionary ideals spread.

----------------. Whether it be those who conduct treacherous acts against the people hiding behind their false democracy or the corrupt dictator, let them hear reason, our reason. And if they can --------------, let revolutionary roar replace revolutionary literature.

We have stalled for far too long, -----------------. We have lost sight or what is right and what is true, what our mission is, and how to accomplish it. But today! Today, we regain that sight, ------------------, no longer shall ----------------------, but leap up and grab it.

China must be strong! And the only way is for our people to be strong and united in their wills. Let us show the world, we do not speak only. We are not a paper dragon. We are no longer the China that was humiliated decades ago by foreign powers. We are stronger, we are united, we are powerful.

Let the revolutionary anthem ring!

Is what it would look like on transcript and translated by any Cantonese speaker who has been away a decent amount of time.

Then again, this does not account for the fact that Cantonese slang cannot, unlike English, be written down. There are no official words for writing Cantonese slang, hence it is just simply said.

That would still be enough for what I need, Logi. The meaning still comes through very loud and clear.
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[Logi]

Oh, do you? Well then, go act according to what you think my message is.

[Sachmle]

Oh, do you? Well then, go act according to what you think my message is.

That would be what Intelligence Agencies do Logi, act on what they 'think' they know.

[Logi]

I know, Sachmle. That's why I said what I said.

[damocles]

MVB instructions to all Dutch military units sent in the clear.

Implement the 24 Hour Rule under the 1919 Naval Law. 

1. As a state of war exists and we are neutral  KoN civilian ports will remain open to all NEUTRAL merchant shipping with the exception of those nations declared on the Forbidden List.

2. No armed vessels will be permitted in KoN civilian ports

3a. Armed NEUTRAL vessels making port call at KoN military ports will be required to allow a pilot and guard unit aboard.

3b. The guard unit will stay on board for the duration of the visit.

3c. Any vessels refusing the pilot or guards will not be permitted into the anchorage or sea defense perimeter.

3d. If the vessel attempts to enter the sea defense perimeter without guard and pilot it will be sunk after  one warning.

3e. Discovered submerged submarines, whatever or whoever they are, will be given a "signal water bomb" warning to surface, stop, and comply with 3a-3c or action 3d will be prosecuted. Failure to surface within two minutes of the "warning shot" constitutes cause to prosecute and sink the submarine.
       
3f. Failure to comply with these instructions will be dealt with under the laws of war.

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Declaration of defensive sea frontiers and the 24 hour rule.

1. As a result of the New Zion/Italy declared state of war the Kingdom of the Netherlands warns all belligerents and NEUTRALS that she invokes the 1919 Naval Law and implements the 24 hour rule.

2a. All UNARMED merchant ships belonging to belligerents have 24 hours to enter KoN civil ports conduct business and leave.

2b. NEUTRALS are not subject to the 24 hour time limits, however all other procedures here contained apply.

2c. Ships are subject to stop and search by the Marine Politie at entry and exit to the declared defensive sea frontier.

2d. Ships will be required to prove manifests and declared passenger/crew lists.

2e. Any deviation from the declared lists and the vessels and persons will be arrested under the 1919 Naval Law and prosecuted as smugglers.

3. The declared defensive sea frontier shall extend outward to a distance of 40 kilometers from the perimeter of a harbor or anchorage.   This applies to KoN civil and naval ports with no effective difference.

4. Aircraft are considered "ships" for the purposes of this declaration. In the event of a stop order by blinker light or single pass by a Luchmacht aircraft, the intruder aircraft are required to land at the nearest Dutch aerodrome for inspection under these rules and declarations. If a Zeppelin they will be required to moor at a designated mast for the same purpose.

5. Failure to comply with these declarations subjects the offender to admiralty law. Civil Redress is allowed in those same courts upon proof of innocence as per KoN civil law statutes.

NvR.       

[damocles]

Anders Welsen, Deputy Foreign Minister throws the cables and down in front of a very tired Nicholas van Rijn who has worked 18 hour days for the last seven months since taking office.

Welsen: "Have you read this garbage?"
NvR: "I don't need to read the newspaper lies to know they are lies, Anders."
Welsen: "What are we going to do?"
NvR: "We are going to do nothing. Until Herzog reports, WE are going to do NOTHING!"

Shocked Welsen steps away from van Rijn. He's never seen the man lose his temper. van Rijn collects himself.

NvR: "Look, Anders.....The New Zionists are mining the Rift. Those idiots don't know, like we do, that minefields are not perfect. Anchored mines break loose from their anchors and become free drift mines. Those mines will inevitably drift into their New Zionist supposed clear lanes and a neutral merchant ship will be destroyed.  That is why I tried for a conference on mine warfare just recently. Only fools sow minefields and fail to declare total exclusion zones and closed seas. At least this time we published  clear warnings of our own defense zones."

Welsen: "We aren't mining?"
NvR: "Of course not, but we patrol, and we make clear HOW we patrol so that there are no incidents and accidents. Did that last special get off to Herzog and van Seik?"

Taken aback by the change in subject, Welsen stutters.   

Welsen: "Yes it did. The MVB is screaming bloody murder."
NvR: "Let them scream. The gamble is worth it."     
       



 
     
     

[Desertfox]

NvR: "Look, Anders.....The New Zionists are mining the Rift. Those idiots don't know, like we do, that minefields are not perfect. Anchored mines break loose from their anchors and become free drift mines. Those mines will inevitably drift into their New Zionist supposed clear lanes and a neutral merchant ship will be destroyed.  That is why I tried for a conference on mine warfare just recently. Only fools sow minefields and fail to declare total exclusion zones and closed seas. At least this time we published  clear warnings of our own defense zones."

All it takes to make a minefield is to announce there is one.  ;) Only I and the mods know if there is or is not a minefield there...

[damocles]

NvR: "Look, Anders.....The New Zionists are mining the Rift. Those idiots don't know, like we do, that minefields are not perfect. Anchored mines break loose from their anchors and become free drift mines. Those mines will inevitably drift into their New Zionist supposed clear lanes and a neutral merchant ship will be destroyed.  That is why I tried for a conference on mine warfare just recently. Only fools sow minefields and fail to declare total exclusion zones and closed seas. At least this time we published  clear warnings of our own defense zones."

All it takes to make a minefield is to announce there is one.  ;) Only I and the mods know if there is or is not a minefield there...

In the real world, Foxy, we CHECK declarations. Don't think I haven't thought this through in Nverse terms.