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Started by damocles, May 22, 2010, 08:05:31 PM

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(This is internal restricted Dutch information) It is for program history purposes to show why the Mest Vierling kept going into refit after brief weeks of testing between modifications.

KMS Crap Fest* testing continues

More of the KMS Mest Viering testing.

The pilots report they cannot land with a tailwind, and they keep hitting the pilot house. 

A decision the engineers make to try a landing platform aft with two side paths to move the aft landing aircraft to the take off platform and vice versa....

KMS Crap Fest* testing continues

Some seaplane experiments. The Crap Fest seems ill-suited for the type.

Foreign reports about KMS Mest Vierling. Apparently foreign navies think it is a propaganda joke. 

Latest reports from the pilots are that now they can land into the wind like Gott intended, but now two new problems present themselves. They are blinded by stack smoke on final approach and the landing run is TOO SHORT!

Now they smack into the funnels.

Deck handlers complain; that as they try to use the pass bys, port or starboard, even if they detach the wings on the W-3s, they cannot roll the planes forward left, or aft right in a seaway, because of dangerous beam roll and length plunge the Crap Fest makes in even a moderate swell makes the W-3s unmanageable. This has already caused the deaths of a dozen deck handling crew and the loss of five aircraft in man or plane overboard incidents.       

Testing out a new concept on land to use a clear continuous landing run on the KMS Mest Vierling in the latest modification plan.

Apparently the idea of some kind of arrestor system is under test and is not very successful. The clear landing run seems to work though as that does reduce collisions.

An engineering review concludes that it is not funnel smoke in the pilot's eyes that caused the two crashes into into the fantail, but that air turbulence caused by both updraft and the funnels splitting the air stream flow, that causes a loss of symmetric wind-stream over deck, sets up two vortices and causes a loss of lift wind vortice generated condition about 30 meters aft of the Mest Vierling as she runs into the wind. Pilots caught in that twist force condition, who are not prepared, lose level control due to right wing drop and spin into the fantail crash.

The engineers who studied this recommend that the funnels be moved to one side of the clear deck, or the other, and that the pilot house be moved for the same exact reason. 
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The Mest Vierling is modified again and undergoes further testing.
 
And some thinking about recon.
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Latest mods and current tests.

Arrestor technology continues to fail. Sufficient distance for land on and take off runs seem far safer solutions at this point. Whatever form the aircraft tender takes now, it will be long and it will have a flat top.

damocles

#196
(More Dutch restricted information.) Seaplane experiments.

W-3 testing.

Notice the ramp launch recovery methods for land-based operation.

W-5 testing.

Note the use of a hinged wing fold for storage and the fitting of small ASW bombs in the test.

W-5 testing from ships, launch and recovery.

Notice lack of a working catapult at this time.

W-4 catapulted by means of explosive driven launch piston from ship.

Notice that the floatplane suffered debris damage during launch and the pilot had to abandon the seaplane after it sank after he emergency landed.  The catapult is effective but it needs much further work to refine it.   

More catapult experiments-landbased this time.

This test involves an experimental Fokker built to validate radio-telegraphy from the air. Notice the unstable and fragile construction of the airframe?  The catapult is fairly successful and should with more development be accepted for service. The plane as of now (R-6) is considered unsafe.       

The Rock Doctor

When is all this carrier testing supposed to be happening?

damocles

#198
Its a history that should take at least 1-2 years to complete after Masirah.

damocles

Masirah lessons learned.

1.Minesweeper methods need improvement.
2.Naval gunfire support needs improvement.
3.Reconnaissance needs vast improvement.
4.Ship to shore movement needs improvement.
5.Ad-hoc improvisation is no substitution for careful plans.
6.Insufficient means applied is an unjustified risk factor.
7.Political groundwork must be better coordinated with the military.

Recommendations.
   
1.Design new minesweeper gear and procedures.
2.Research new fire control methods.
3.Work on aerial reconnaissance.
4.Practice amphibious landings.
5.Work out a landing doctrine based on (4).
6.Secure the adequate means to our purposes.
7.Political is beyond the scope of these recommendations. 

damocles

#200
       Nicholas van Rijn reads snippets of  translated newspaper articles

QuoteShocking news today as the Irish government regretfully announced the death of Garrison Ahern, the president of the Republic of Ireland for the last 7 years.

as part of the daily NRDN "dump" as he sips afternoon tea. His doctors took away his Laher and cigars and have him eating nothing but fish, vegetables, and fruits and peddling madly on a fixed bicycle an hour a day. Here's more of the reasons why:

QuoteToday the new ambassador to the Confederate States of America, Dermot McGuinness, left today for the CSA on a passenger liner. The first in
a new effort to attempt to bring Ireland into a greater role on the world stage, no firm details were released about Ambassador McGuinness's orders. In the ambassadorial party however was a much larger group of officers from the Irish Navy, including a unidentified commodore.

...a  delegation under Ambassador Ronan Curren will depart for the Kingdom of the Netherlands on board and Irish warship, with no major details released about his first orders eather. An increased Navy group is also expected to sail with Ambassador Curren.

Furious he roars: "Halswan! Get me that idiot, Welsen. Now!"
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Anders Welsen looks to see if he still has his head after the last "meeting" with van Rijn. Its not his fault that the Irish President died. Now the Irish sent an ambassador and a naval mission and he didn't know why. Maybe this little weasel from the Riksflotte Kommandamt could tell him why?

Welsen: "Well?"
Kapitein ter Zee Danny O'Hare*: We approached the new Irish government to make contacts with the new leader when your ambassador was too busy enjoying the Dublin breweries. He's another Kyrt Huergens, that one. Someone has to mind the store!"  
Welsen: "He's being recalled and replaced. What did you do?"
O'Hare: "Mostly our naval attache apologized for Ginstler. But we did talk naval matters and a little bit about how the Hoen government mistreated Irish interests."
Welsen: "What about the CSA? What are they doing poking their noses in?"
O'Hare: "Same thing the New Swiss did with Oman. They see an opportunity. Problem is that the CSA are playing in "friendly" waters not as favorable to us, so we need to treat this incursion very gingerly. Feather touch until we see exactly what they are about. Trade is not a problem, open subversion or coercion of a free government IS. Note also, Meister Welsen, that the CSA has a large Irish populace that might not like it if they see us trying to push the Irish Republic. The present Irish government might not like it either. With your bull in a China shop approach of the recent past, it becomes a bit of a problem?"
Welsen: "And you are to fix it?"
O'Hare: "I'm your new MVB advisor. The First Minister wants you to have one now, so you don't screw this case up like you did Oman and the NUS."  

 

Yes, there are Irish in the Kingdom


Carthaginian

Uhm...

How on earth did you find out about a single group of only 5 Tennessee boys planning to take something home to the land of their grandfathers?

This is NOT common IC knowledge.
In fact, neither the CSA nor Ireland are aware of their actions.

Please modify the above post.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Carthaginian

#202
Quote from: damocles on July 25, 2010, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Carthaginian on July 25, 2010, 03:13:46 PM
Uhm...

How on earth did you find out about a single group of only 5 Tennessee boys planning to take something home to the land of their grandfathers?

This is NOT common IC knowledge.
In fact, neither the CSA nor Ireland are aware of their actions.

Please modify the above post.

The Dutch don't know about the five Tennessee drunks. What they know is:
Quotethe CSA has a terrorist movement aimed at Eire
.

That should be fairly common knowledge to the NRDN. It should be a political element inside the CSA as much as it was in the US of the RTL, or did those Tommy guns and the USS Holland not have Sein Fenn funding and backing as part of their original history before the USG became involved?

Just asking.    

EDIT:

THERE IS NO TERRORIST CELL... PERIOD. There is nothing for the Dutch to know about. There is nothing to spy over. NOTHING. This is not an IC denial- it's an OoC 'heads up' that you are inventing something that doesn't exist.

If you must know, I'll tell you EXACTLY why that storyline element exists- but it'll spoil the whole damn story for several people and ruin the fun for at least two people who are going to be writing it...

Working it out via PM
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Guinness

Gang: let's not argue this one out here. I see a PM in my inbox on the subject with both belligerents in the to: field. Let's work it out via pm, please.

damocles

#204


(Used with permission from Texas Cowboy.)

damocles


Carthaginian

A gas mine?

LOL... I love it.

The Dutch will be the easiest army in the world to defeat- just let the wind change, trip the gas mines, and let their own weapons kill them. Gas is a very unpredictable weapon, and just as dangerous to the user as it is to the intend victim.
So 'ere's to you, Fuzzy-Wuzzy, at your 'ome in old Baghdad;
You're a pore benighted 'eathen but a first-class fightin' man;
We gives you your certificate, an' if you want it signed
We'll come an' 'ave a romp with you whenever you're inclined.

Walter

Hmmm... Reminds me somehow of my Type 76 20cm Projector the Livens Projector. :)

ctwaterman

This is a 15th or 16th Century weapon updated to more modern usage.   In Vietnahm it was made by mixing naptha and gasoline to make Napalm and putting it into tanks on top of a C4 charge.

Im trying to think of the Early French Name for it... Hmmm cant remember but it was a simple stone nitch built into the walls of the keep with a keg of Gun Poweder and a couple of kegs of something flaminable and you set it off in the attackers face and the stone channeled it towards the attacking enemy causing death, fire, and light to see attackers at night...

Charles
Just Browsing nothing to See Move Along

maddox

A Fougasse, that is the name.

But what damocless shows is the Lives Projector. The first distance weapon to deliver gas attacks with some range.

What reminds me.  Is Tiamat sprayable?