DKB Ships of the next decade (1920-1929)

[Sachmle]

Looking at my current research and other related tech I'll be able to lay this down no later than 2/21 and could be as early as 1/21. I can lay down a variant with 1916 engines in 2/20, but decided to wait on the engine tech.

S-101, Brandenburger Zestorer laid down 1921

Displacement:
   1,500 t light; 1,553 t standard; 1,726 t normal; 1,865 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   393.69 ft / 388.78 ft x 35.33 ft x 9.19 ft (normal load)
   120.00 m / 118.50 m x 10.77 m  x 2.80 m

Armament:
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (2x2 guns), 52.91lbs / 24.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring
      2 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1921 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1921 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 215 lbs / 97 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 19.7" / 500 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 43,000 shp / 32,078 Kw = 33.92 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 312 tons

Complement:
   133 - 174

Cost:
   £0.540 million / $2.159 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 27 tons, 1.6 %
   Armour: 7 tons, 0.4 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 7 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 979 tons, 56.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 422 tons, 24.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 226 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 65 tons, 3.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     304 lbs / 138 Kg = 5.8 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
   Metacentric height 1.6 ft / 0.5 m
   Roll period: 11.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.55

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.479
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.72 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 90
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: -3.28 ft / -1.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Forecastle (15 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Mid (30 %):      16.40 ft / 5.00 m (8.20 ft / 2.50 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Stern:      8.20 ft / 2.50 m
      - Average freeboard:   10.82 ft / 3.30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 198.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 93.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,980 Square feet or 834 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 53 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 154 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.50
      - Overall: 0.50
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

25t = 1912 FC
12t = 6 2t 1913 50cm Torpedoes
3t = 9 1916 DCs
25t = Reserve Weight
Trial speed = 34.63

[Sachmle]

KK 1921, Brandenburg Kliener Kruezer laid down 1921

Displacement:
   8,500 t light; 8,810 t standard; 9,825 t normal; 10,637 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.76 ft / 551.84 ft x 61.29 ft x 20.18 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.20 m x 18.68 m  x 6.15 m

Armament:
      8 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (4x2 guns), 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1915 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 809 lbs / 367 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250
   6 - 19.7" / 500 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   412.57 ft / 125.75 m   13.62 ft / 4.15 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 115 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.95" / 75 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      2.95" / 75 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 3 shafts, 90,000 shp / 67,140 Kw = 32.21 kts
   Range 8,500nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,827 tons

Complement:
   493 - 641

Cost:
   £2.086 million / $8.344 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 105 tons, 1.1 %
   Armour: 1,592 tons, 16.2 %
      - Belts: 681 tons, 6.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 58 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 824 tons, 8.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 29 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 3,099 tons, 31.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,412 tons, 34.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,325 tons, 13.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 292 tons, 3.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,321 lbs / 4,228 Kg = 90.5 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
   Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 14.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.504
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.45 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.33 ft / 6.50 m (20.77 ft / 6.33 m aft of break)
      - Mid (70 %):      20.77 ft / 6.33 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Stern:      16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.70 ft / 6.01 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,614 Square feet or 2,101 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 95 lbs/sq ft or 464 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.47
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

100t FC
25t Sehendes Auge
25t Markoni Installation
80t Mines x 80
12t Torpedoes x 6 50cm
50t Reserve Weight

[Sachmle]

GK 1922, Brandenburgia GroBe Kreuzer laid down 1922

Displacement:
   14,000 t light; 14,638 t standard; 16,003 t normal; 17,095 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   656.15 ft / 649.61 ft x 74.64 ft x 22.97 ft (normal load)
   200.00 m / 198.00 m x 22.75 m  x 7.00 m

Armament:
      8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 275.58lbs / 125.00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 66.14lbs / 30.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all forward
      4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 2,749 lbs / 1,247 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   422.41 ft / 128.75 m   14.27 ft / 4.35 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.91" / 150 mm   2.95" / 75 mm      5.91" / 150 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.59" / 15 mm      2.95" / 75 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 112,000 shp / 83,552 Kw = 32.07 kts
   Range 8,500nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,457 tons

Complement:
   710 - 924

Cost:
   £3.592 million / $14.369 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 352 tons, 2.2 %
   Armour: 3,426 tons, 21.4 %
      - Belts: 1,500 tons, 9.4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 666 tons, 4.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,180 tons, 7.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 81 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 3,799 tons, 23.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,048 tons, 37.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,003 tons, 12.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 375 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     18,709 lbs / 8,486 Kg = 66.2 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.503
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.50 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29.53 ft / 9.00 m
      - Forecastle (23 %):   20.51 ft / 6.25 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.51 ft / 6.25 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   20.51 ft / 6.25 m
      - Stern:      20.51 ft / 6.25 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.34 ft / 6.50 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 32,394 Square feet or 3,009 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 123 lbs/sq ft or 602 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

250t 1912 FC
25t LR W/T
100t Reserve Weight

[Kaiser Kirk]

Not sold on the cruiser. It's a great deal bigger than the New Swiss 8" Olympia for only marginal advantages.  The NS can field nearly 2 of theirs for each of yours, which makes those advantages less. Projecting forward, it may not have significant advantages over the 1922 NS cruiser class either. 

[Valles]

The S-101s will be very formidable craft; except for the difference in transmission types, they're essentially a superior-in-every-way answer to my own 'fleet designs', right down to the fully enclosed main mounts.

The KK design is substantially larger than my own escort cruiser designs, and not as well armed or protected. Any direct action even on a one-on-one basis wouldn't go well for it, I think... But the six-knot speed advantage is compelling even for me.

I have no equivalent of the GK design, nor am I likely to. It represents a ship type that, while useful, is not critical, and until DF finishes committing suicide, I'm simply not going to be able to afford something like that.

All in all, while I personally would probably do a number of things rather different, particularly in regards to the crusers' armor, they're very capable and effective vessels that I do not particularly look forward to dealing with. ^_^

[Jefgte]

NUS had similar GK-14000t project with more guns & lighter protection on a similar hull.
Idem for the light cruiser KK-8500t.

The 1500t DD is correct with a high speed.


Jef

[P3D]

The KK I'd classify to be a 'minimum' design I like - armor and firepower strictly kept down to the requirements to minimize cost.
The GK I don't like. Not powerful enough against anything larger, but 6" armor is excessive against 6" guns, and just there are not that many 8" gunned ships around. I'd go for 6-8x11", but a too large design won't fit the lvl3 infrastructure DKB has.

Alternatively, as the DKB cannot afford both cruiser classes in numbers, merge the two for a reduced 32kts 8x21cm design on 11-12000t.

[Sachmle]

Well, I won't do a 6 gun ship, nor will I do a tin clad. 6 guns isn't enough for effective spotting IMHO and if it's not armored to withstand it's own rounds it's underarmored.

[Carthaginian]

Well, I won't do a 6 gun ship, nor will I do a tin clad. 6 guns isn't enough for effective spotting IMHO and if it's not armored to withstand it's own rounds it's underarmored.

I agree.
That's why the CSA has similar designs ready for production when the engine tech matures.

[Sachmle]

Upgunned, down armored. Little faster.

GK 1922, Brandenburgia GroBe Kreuzer laid down 1922

Displacement:
   14,000 t light; 14,821 t standard; 16,220 t normal; 17,339 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   721.43 ft / 716.04 ft x 71.62 ft x 21.98 ft (normal load)
   219.89 m / 218.25 m x 21.83 m  x 6.70 m

Armament:
      10 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (5x2 guns), 275.58lbs / 125.00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 66.14lbs / 30.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1922 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 0.30" / 7.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 3,565 lbs / 1,617 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 240

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.33" / 110 mm   465.06 ft / 141.75 m   13.94 ft / 4.25 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.33" / 110 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      4.33" / 110 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.39" / 10 mm      2.36" / 60 mm

   - Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 108,000 shp / 80,568 Kw = 32.15 kts
   Range 8,500nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,518 tons

Complement:
   718 - 934

Cost:
   £3.779 million / $15.116 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 456 tons, 2.8 %
   Armour: 3,071 tons, 18.9 %
      - Belts: 1,169 tons, 7.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 588 tons, 3.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,248 tons, 7.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 65 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 3,664 tons, 22.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,435 tons, 39.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,220 tons, 13.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 375 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     19,364 lbs / 8,783 Kg = 68.5 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 15.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 69 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.17

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.504
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26.76 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12.20 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.93 ft / 7.60 m
      - Forecastle (25 %):   20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Stern:      15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.14 ft / 6.14 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 182.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 34,281 Square feet or 3,185 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 125 lbs/sq ft or 608 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.01
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

250t 1912 FC
25t LR W/T
25t Float Plane/Crane
75t Reserve Weight

[Sachmle]

Slightly economy version:

GK 22-2-1, Deutche Kaiserreich GroBe Kreuzer laid down 1922

Displacement:
   12,800 t light; 13,370 t standard; 14,261 t normal; 14,974 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   616.80 ft / 610.24 ft x 65.62 ft x 24.61 ft (normal load)
   188.00 m / 186.00 m x 20.00 m  x 7.50 m

Armament:
      8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 275.58lbs / 125.00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 66.14lbs / 30.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      16 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 3,031 lbs / 1,375 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   6 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.33" / 110 mm   424.54 ft / 129.40 m   13.45 ft / 4.10 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.94" / 100 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.39" / 10 mm      1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.15" / 80 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 106,000 shp / 79,076 Kw = 32.06 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,604 tons

Complement:
   652 - 848

Cost:
   £3.482 million / $13.926 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 387 tons, 2.7 %
   Armour: 3,092 tons, 21.7 %
      - Belts: 1,025 tons, 7.2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 454 tons, 3.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,564 tons, 11.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 3,596 tons, 25.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,225 tons, 36.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,461 tons, 10.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 3.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,585 lbs / 6,162 Kg = 48.1 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 15.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.70 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.75 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.93 ft / 7.60 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Stern:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.70 ft / 6.31 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 136.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 26,840 Square feet or 2,494 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 120 lbs/sq ft or 584 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.47
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

250t 1912 Fire Control
75t 3 1913/1916 Scout Float Planes
50t Reserve Weight
40t 40 Mines
25t Long Range Markoni
25t 1905 Sehendes Auge
18t 6x3t 1918 60cm Torpedoes
17t Crane for Planes

[TexanCowboy]

Now if I had two more BP's, I would build the last design...

[Sachmle]

Now if I had two more BP's, I would build the last design...

Well, you've got 3 sim yrs to get those 2BP built up. That's only $200/yr or $100/hy :D

[P3D]

The economy version has 80mm deck, kinda thick.

[Sachmle]

The economy version has 80mm deck, kinda thick.

Ya..noticed after.. it's an almost direct copy of Algerie. 21cm instead of 8", 13cm instead of 4", 50mm instead of 40mm, 15mm instead of 13.2mm, 60cm TT instead of 55cm, 0.1m beamier, same speed/length/draft/armor.

Cut deck to 50mm used the extra strength to up the freeboard, speed, and make the belt deeper

GK 22-2-1, Deutche Kaiserreich GroBe Kreuzer laid down 1922

Displacement:
   12,800 t light; 13,370 t standard; 14,261 t normal; 14,974 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   616.80 ft / 610.24 ft x 65.62 ft x 24.61 ft (normal load)
   188.00 m / 186.00 m x 20.00 m  x 7.50 m

Armament:
     8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 275.58lbs / 125.00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 66.14lbs / 30.00kg shells, 1918 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
     8 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     16 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1922 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 3,031 lbs / 1,375 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 160
   6 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.33" / 110 mm   436.35 ft / 133.00 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.33" / 110 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      4.33" / 110 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.39" / 10 mm      2.36" / 60 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.33" / 110 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 110,000 shp / 82,060 Kw = 32.36 kts
   Range 5,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,604 tons

Complement:
   652 - 848

Cost:
   £3.533 million / $14.134 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 387 tons, 2.7 %
   Armour: 2,823 tons, 19.8 %
      - Belts: 1,279 tons, 9.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 511 tons, 3.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 977 tons, 6.9 %
      - Conning Tower: 55 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 3,731 tons, 26.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,358 tons, 37.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,461 tons, 10.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 3.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,243 lbs / 6,007 Kg = 46.9 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
   Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
   Roll period: 15.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.63
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.04

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.70 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 14.75 degrees
   Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.93 ft / 7.60 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Mid (50 %):      21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   21.33 ft / 6.50 m
      - Stern:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.78 ft / 6.64 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 26,840 Square feet or 2,494 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 591 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.56
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

250t 1912 Fire Control
75t 3 1913/1916 Scout Float Planes
50t Reserve Weight
40t 40 Mines
25t Long Range Markoni
25t 1905 Sehendes Auge
18t 6x3t 1918 60cm Torpedoes
17t Crane for Planes