Ukraine News from Foreign Service.

[Ithekro]

I wonder if he'll make it all the way across the Seas and continents in one piece.

Then I wonder how the native populations will react to him.  (The Native American populations that is, not the monarchal Westron speakers that would seem to be the majority, though that isn't proven).

[Sachmle]

Men is my German rusty.I did not used a translator ;D

Agreed ;D
I wonder whether Sachmle did?

Anyway it's always kind of fun to read German on English sites, especially if translated by a machine.

Yes I did, and I know it's probably wrong. :P

[Kaiser Kirk]

OOC:
First part is that I'm now in charge of Ukraine.
Second is me trying to recreate a virtual carnival that Royal Elections were in Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania.
If a historian wrote"this elections were peaceful, there were only 2 murders" then that was one fun experience.  

OOC : Welcome Marek.  
It will be interesting to see you turn Ukraine from Ukrainian-dominated to a modern iteration of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.

The last thing the Ukrainian ambassador to Bavaria was seen doing was leaving the Bavarian Kammer der Reichsräte, furious that  King Frederick Augustus II of Saxony also had himself announced as the "King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania, and Duke of Warsaw". That was October, 1917.

I've mentioned various levels of unrest among your Polish subject in the past, and reprisals, and a series of border clashes. The border clashes ceased (presumably because the Ukraine pulled further back) during the Dutch-Siam war (when Rocky asked for a couple years before the next war), as when it started threaten to spread to Europe, the ESC and Bavaria mobilized.. oh I think it was 48 odd corps, and kept them in wargames through the next spring.

If you check my sim reports, or Bavaria\Palast\Polish resistance, you'll see financing and arms for Polish malcontents, though it's a bit out of date.

On the plus side, Blooded (Russia) has wandered off, so we won't be coordinating something...


as for my command of German, it's very limited as it's been decades since I took it. Apparently though I don't have much of an accent :) 

[Marek Gutkowski]

OOC:
First part is that I'm now in charge of Ukraine.
Second is me trying to recreate a virtual carnival that Royal Elections were in Commonwealth of Poland and Lithuania.
If a historian wrote"this elections were peaceful, there were only 2 murders" then that was one fun experience.  

OOC : Welcome Marek.  
It will be interesting to see you turn Ukraine from Ukrainian-dominated to a modern iteration of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.

The last thing the Ukrainian ambassador to Bavaria was seen doing was leaving the Bavarian Kammer der Reichsräte, furious that  King Frederick Augustus II of Saxony also had himself announced as the "King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania, and Duke of Warsaw". That was October, 1917.

I've mentioned various levels of unrest among your Polish subject in the past, and reprisals, and a series of border clashes. The border clashes ceased (presumably because the Ukraine pulled further back) during the Dutch-Siam war (when Rocky asked for a couple years before the next war), as when it started threaten to spread to Europe, the ESC and Bavaria mobilized.. oh I think it was 48 odd corps, and kept them in wargames through the next spring.

If you check my sim reports, or Bavaria\Palast\Polish resistance, you'll see financing and arms for Polish malcontents, though it's a bit out of date.

On the plus side, Blooded (Russia) has wandered off, so we won't be coordinating something...


as for my command of German, it's very limited as it's been decades since I took it. Apparently though I don't have much of an accent :) 

I will not try to make a Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth out of Ukraine.
My plan is more of recreating ideas of OTL Yugoslavia with all it inherited failings and short commings.

As for supplying Polish malcontent's.
Out of all the rebellions that happened in Poland only one succeeded and still there were more to come.A nation that has a saying that roughly translates to  "We don't need gold, We love iron"with means we can be poor but we like to be able to stab or shoot somebody.

My German is also rusty, I used it some times in day too day speech but writhing some thing is one a year event.   

[TexanCowboy]

Me and Blooded were planning something....

However, with him gone, the only invasions with more than one nation planning are Barvaria-ESC and Austria-Romania, with other nations having awful relations with each other.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Me and Blooded were planning something....

However, with him gone, the only invasions with more than one nation planning are Barvaria-ESC and Austria-Romania, with other nations having awful relations with each other.

The ESC was uninvolved in Bavaria's efforts. Heck, Greater Bavaria is uninvolved in the efforts, it was being run out of the Kingdom of Saxony, and I wasn't certain where it was going to lead. 

Probably a revolt which proclaimed the Wettins Kings. This would either lead to a Ukraine attack, or Wettin-directed intervention out of Saxony/Silesia and thus dragging in Greater Bavaria when Ukraine defended itself. Blooded/Russia was looking to get involved we had only started discussions.   The only other angle I was considering was a "Free the Catholics" style intervention. 

[TexanCowboy]

Me and Blooded had something fully planned out, over the stealing of the Elisaveti. However, we never got around to implementing it.

[Desertfox]

Guess I'll have to plan another op to spring Lenin out...

[Tanthalas]

Guess I'll have to plan another op to spring Lenin out...

From Rohan... oh im sure Eorl will react positivly to NS operatives killing people in Rohan.

[Desertfox]

Land ops are too hard and he has to travel from the Ukraine. Pirate attack, Bermuda Triangle... many options, and it won't be any regular Swiss forces doing the dirty work, more like the Swiss Red party.

[Carthaginian]

Land ops are too hard and he has to travel from the Ukraine. Pirate attack, Bermuda Triangle... many options, and it won't be any regular Swiss forces doing the dirty work, more like the Swiss Red party.

DF, you DO realize that 'black ops' like what you are planning seldom go off without a hitch, and even more seldom succeed as fully as you are banking on.
The Swiss are putting their fingers in too many pies while not considering that some nations might be running 'black ops' of their own.

[The Rock Doctor]

It would be kinda funny if the Swiss did engage in all these schemes, and they all backfired simultaneously.

[Sachmle]

It would be kinda funny if the Swiss did engage in all these schemes, and they all backfired simultaneously.

I believe that would result in something like:

CSA/Rohan/Italy/France/UNK/Maoria/Netherlands/Bavaria/ESC/Siam/Burma/MK/Iberia/GC/NUS/Firenj/DKB/l'Indochine/Austria/RUS/UKR/Greece

vs

NS/Jap/NZ/RRC/RUM/OR(?)/MX(?)/Ottomans/Persians/Oman(?)

with Bharat/Mughal/Khazaria/Egypt neutral and loving it.

[Walter]

Where you put Japan... very unlikely.

[TexanCowboy]

You can put me in the CSA/Rohan/Italy/France/UNK/Maoria/Netherlands/Bavaria/ESC/Siam/Burma/MK/Iberia/GC/NUS/Firenj/DKB/l'Indochine/Austria/RUS/UKR/Greece camp, because Romania is the nation that wants Lenin put to trial. And if the General hijacking scheme goes off, the RRC would be there too. And the Japs always go with the MK...