Generic battleship?

Started by Marek Gutkowski, May 06, 2010, 11:15:59 AM

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Sachmle

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Or with the purchase of a license for DKB 35cm/L45 guns you could do this:

Velikiy Knyaz Kirill, Velike Kniazistvo Ukrainske Eskadrennye Bronenostsy laid down 1919 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   23,000 t light; 24,091 t standard; 25,386 t normal; 26,422 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.75 ft / 553.64 ft x 91.86 ft x 29.53 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 168.75 m x 28.00 m  x 9.00 m

Armament:
      8 - 13.78" / 350 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,345.00lbs / 610.08kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 45.15lbs / 20.48kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns in single mounts, 10.58lbs / 4.80kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships
   Weight of broadside 11,504 lbs / 5,218 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 90
   2 - 19.7" / 500 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   359.71 ft / 109.64 m   16.01 ft / 4.88 m
   Ends:   3.94" / 100 mm   193.90 ft / 59.10 m   16.01 ft / 4.88 m
   Upper:   5.91" / 150 mm   359.71 ft / 109.64 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1.97" / 50 mm   359.71 ft / 109.64 m   29.53 ft / 9.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.6" / 320 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      10.2" / 260 mm
   2nd:   5.91" / 150 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   4th:   0.98" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 3.15" / 80 mm, Conning tower: 12.60" / 320 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 42,000 shp / 31,332 Kw = 22.51 kts
   Range 6,100nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,331 tons

Complement:
   1,005 - 1,307

Cost:
   £4.865 million / $19.459 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,417 tons, 5.6 %
   Armour: 9,920 tons, 39.1 %
      - Belts: 4,397 tons, 17.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 774 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armament: 2,365 tons, 9.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 2,151 tons, 8.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 234 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,675 tons, 6.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,514 tons, 37.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,386 tons, 9.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 475 tons, 1.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     38,468 lbs / 17,449 Kg = 29.4 x 13.8 " / 350 mm shells or 6.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
   Roll period: 16.8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.592
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.03 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.53 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 38
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8.65 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      27.00 ft / 8.23 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   24.02 ft / 7.32 m
      - Mid (72 %):      24.02 ft / 7.32 m (16.01 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   16.01 ft / 4.88 m
      - Stern:      16.01 ft / 4.88 m
      - Average freeboard:   21.97 ft / 6.70 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 36,908 Square feet or 3,429 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 179 lbs/sq ft or 873 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 2.04
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
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ctwaterman

I build a copy of the the 356mm/L50 that the British designed for the Russian its a nice 14" gun using the 1911 Gun Technology.  Its tought to keep ones ships and guns really really modern.

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Marek Gutkowski

I'm not a fan of speed because one fast BB will have to sail alone or drag its feet with the rest of the fleet.
Or building a whole new battleline with will take something like 20 years.
Rebuilding existing ships is expensive and at the end of the day you still have a old ship.
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TexanCowboy

You still have the oddball battlecruiser....Nelson style, 30 knots.

The Rock Doctor

I'd agree with Carth about generic battleships:  I always picture a QE class when I heard that kind of phrase.

The Russian class for sale does offer a reasonably useful package, and one could swap out the triple 12" for twin 14" or 15". 

For your purposes - I'd agree speed is not so important.  I'd probably emphasize protection in your case, as you'll probably be outnumbered and outgunned anyway.  Best to keep the ship functional and a threat.