Expensive bananas

[Desertfox]

I am New Switzerland and I approve of this ship.*
*Paid for by the Council for Anti-French Schemes.


NS had the Vesuvious, could do the same job better for 1/10 the cost. Which reminds me, I need more dynamite ships.

[TexanCowboy]

Never a good idea...read up one what happened to the USS Essex when it was built with carronades. Not something you want, and with dynamite shells...the less said, the better.

[Logi]

The RRC actually has a few 14" coastal batteries. I guess the trump is that my batteries were built during 1918.


Now where was that quote about the effect of larger caliber guns? Ah, here it is:

The Armor Piercing (AP) shell fired by these guns is capable of penetrating nearly 30 feet (9 m) of concrete, depending upon the range and obliquity of impact.  The High Capacity (HC) shell  can create a crater 50 feet wide and 20 feet deep (15 x 6 m).  During her deployment off Vietnam, USS New Jersey (BB-62) occasionally fired a single HC round into the jungle and so created a helicopter landing zone 200 yards (180 m) in diameter and defoliated trees for 300 yards (270 m) beyond that.

That's NavWeaps description of the 16" guns that the Iowas carried. I would imagine that kind of destructive power for shore bombardment is carried to a large extent to 15" and 14" guns.

[maddox]

Logi, you just gave me another use of the Pumpkin.   Create airship landing zones.  A profound pounding of a certain part of African jungle creates a landing zone for an airship.  It  hovers,  landing harpoon hooks are fired, and personel is rappeled down.

Depending on the job, the personel dropped  creates a better landing spot, or cuts the harpoons and go out to have fun.

A type 2 airship has a suitable payload of 9 tons,  That means an action time of 20 hours.  Following the troop transport rules,  it means  9 commandos can be dropped in a few minutes time at any place  inside an action radius of a 400 nautical miles inside a day. With the airship having a reasonable chance returning home.

Who can design me a Type 2 Airship tender? 
Requirements are simple.   max  speed  of no concequence, cruise speed  16 kts, range 6000nm.
Supply 1 type 2 airship with an hangar, and a second one with replenishment facilities.

[Nobody]

Who can design me a Type 2 Airship tender? 
Requirements are simple.   max  speed  of no concequence, cruise speed  16 kts, range 6000nm.
Supply 1 type 2 airship with an hangar, and a second one with replenishment facilities.

I like Zeppelins so I took a short look into this.
A type 2 airship is supposed to be 40000 m² in size. For comparison I choose a similar sized Zeppelin from this list. Closest match seems to be 35800 m², I choose LZ 65/95 as data basis, which tells us that such a Zeppelin would probably at least 180 meters long an 19 m in diameter. If you want to house two of those you would probably need a hanger at least 44 meters wide, 200 m long and some 25 to 30 meters high mounted well above the water line (with only 2 meters of safety distance between the Zeppelins itself and the hangar walls). I'm looking forward to some type 5 sized ships.

On a side note, or air ship rules seem to be extremely conservative, as LZ 65/95 was smaller than our rules permit and was both faster ~50 knots and carried more "cargo" (~17 tons).

[ctwaterman]

I hate to break the news to people but I have 5 Large Costal Fortifications

2 in the Blantrye straits into the Southern Rift Sea.
8x12" Guns, 8x10.8" Guns, and 24x6" guns

1 at Nacala oposite Blantrye in the Indian Ocean
4x12", 4x10.8" and 12x6"

1 at Montivideo Uraguay
4 x 14" 4x 12", 4x10.8" and 12x6"

1 Guarding the Port of Nuevo Lipari on the Islands in the South Atlantic
4 x 14" 4x 12", 4x10.8" and 12x6"

So Shhhh.... dont tell anyone...

[maddox]

I like Zeppelins so I took a short look into this.

So do I. I'm planning to visit the Zeppelin museum in Friedrichshaven sometime later this year. (maybe during the Conquering Europe Tour, when going for a visit of all European Nverse Members.)

A type 2 airship is supposed to be 40000 m² in size. For comparison I choose a similar sized Zeppelin from this list. Closest match seems to be 35800 m², I choose LZ 65/95 as data basis, which tells us that such a Zeppelin would probably at least 180 meters long an 19 m in diameter. If you want to house two of those you would probably need a hanger at least 44 meters wide, 200 m long and some 25 to 30 meters high mounted well above the water line (with only 2 meters of safety distance between the Zeppelins itself and the hangar walls). I'm looking forward to some type 5 sized ships.

Is going to be very expensive, but in the end, you're talking Habakkuk.
But there is a type 3 drydock. Once Montmedie is floating out, it could be used. So, have a go at a Ultra Patoka
Reminder, armament and armor cannot take more than 2% of the total light weight.
The hangar could be part of the hull.

On a side note, or air ship rules seem to be extremely conservative, as LZ 65/95 was smaller than our rules permit and was both faster ~50 knots and carried more "cargo" (~17 tons).

I agree, but that had a reason when we started with the Airship rules for Nverse III. We don't want to see the whole Nverse zooming around in airships. We have seen that in the past...  No thanks.

[Nobody]

I'm planning to visit the Zeppelin museum in Friedrichshaven sometime later this year.

Good idea it's a quite interesting place, it might even be multilingual.

(maybe during the Conquering Europe Tour, when going for a visit of all European Nverse Members.)

But tell me beforehand, will you? I have to clean my room before that ;)

A type 2 airship is supposed to be 40000 m² in size. For comparison I choose a similar sized Zeppelin from this list. Closest match seems to be 35800 m², I choose LZ 65/95 as data basis, which tells us that such a Zeppelin would probably at least 180 meters long an 19 m in diameter. If you want to house two of those you would probably need a hanger at least 44 meters wide, 200 m long and some 25 to 30 meters high mounted well above the water line (with only 2 meters of safety distance between the Zeppelins itself and the hangar walls). I'm looking forward to some type 5 sized ships.

Is going to be very expensive, but in the end, you're talking Habakkuk.
But there is a type 3 drydock. Once Montmedie is floating out, it could be used. So, have a go at a Ultra Patoka
Reminder, armament and armor cannot take more than 2% of the total light weight.
The hangar could be part of the hull.

I see no way to put even a single a 200 m Zeppelin in a 220 m hull - even if we treat the hanger as a space-shuttle-like-cargo-bay which can be opened and release the airship. (hardly doable with 1920 tech)
Usually you would need a circular flat square being at least twice the airship length in diameter with a mooring tower in the middle.
Assuming I need a 200 m hanger and at least 50 m of clear deck on the stern behind it, leaves 70 m for bow and superstructure on a max sized type 5 hull - not too much if you ask me.

Trying to do this, by heightening the hull over 200 m length by 30 m I ended up with ships in the 60 to 80 thousand tons (light!) which need some 6 to 12 % of armor as counterweight, so that they reach 1.0 stability. They also ended up much wider for the same reason enabling them to carry even the next generation of airships (Type 3).

The Orange Republic offers to build such a ship for a mere payment of 6 BP and 8 $ per HY over the course of the building.

Aeroflot 1, France Airship-carrier laid down 1920

Displacement:
   82.247 t light; 84.131 t standard; 89.102 t normal; 93.080 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   1.049,87 ft / 1.049,87 ft x 213,25 ft x 20,01 ft (normal load)
   320,00 m / 320,00 m x 65,00 m  x 6,10 m

Armament:
      8 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all forward
      20 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 12 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 709 lbs / 321 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm   984,25 ft / 300,00 m   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
   Ends:   1,97" / 50 mm     65,61 ft / 20,00 m   13,12 ft / 4,00 m
   Upper:   1,18" / 30 mm   656,17 ft / 200,00 m   131,23 ft / 40,00 m
     Main Belt covers 144% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,57" / 40 mm   984,25 ft / 300,00 m   29,53 ft / 9,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm         -         1,97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 0,39" / 10 mm, Conning tower: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 46.746 shp / 34.873 Kw = 18,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 16,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 8.949 tons

Complement:
   2.578 - 3.352

Cost:
   £7,521 million / $30,083 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 89 tons, 0,1%
   Armour: 10.801 tons, 12,1%
      - Belts: 7.633 tons, 8,6%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.693 tons, 1,9%
      - Armament: 88 tons, 0,1%
      - Armour Deck: 1.302 tons, 1,5%
      - Conning Tower: 85 tons, 0,1%
   Machinery: 1.634 tons, 1,8%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 69.222 tons, 77,7%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6.856 tons, 7,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 0,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     4.004.257 lbs / 1.816.301 Kg = 47.826,5 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 5.215,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00
   Metacentric height 15,5 ft / 4,7 m
   Roll period: 22,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,696
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4,92 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 21 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Forecastle (10%):   32,81 ft / 10,00 m
      - Mid (20%):      32,81 ft / 10,00 m (147,64 ft / 45,00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (17%):   49,21 ft / 15,00 m (147,64 ft / 45,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      49,21 ft / 15,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   108,20 ft / 32,98 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 10,3%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 1.742,7%
   Waterplane Area: 178.811 Square feet or 16.612 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 583%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 217 lbs/sq ft or 1.057 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,71
      - Longitudinal: 20,39
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Capeable of carrying 2 airships up to 200 m in length and 25 m diameter (~70000 m³ --> Type 3) or 3 airships up to 200 m in length and 19 m diameter (~36000 m³ --> Type 2)



Aeroflot 2, France Airship-carrier laid down 1920

Displacement:
   60.410 t light; 61.769 t standard; 65.479 t normal; 68.447 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   1.049,87 ft / 1.049,87 ft x 196,85 ft x 21,33 ft (normal load)
   320,00 m / 320,00 m x 60,00 m  x 6,50 m

Armament:
      6 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, all forward
      32 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns (16x2 guns), 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 10 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 565 lbs / 256 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1,18" / 30 mm   918,64 ft / 280,00 m   16,40 ft / 5,00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 135% of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,57" / 40 mm   918,64 ft / 280,00 m   26,25 ft / 8,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,97" / 50 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 34.799 shp / 25.960 Kw = 18,00 kts
   Range 6.000nm at 16,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6.678 tons

Complement:
   2.046 - 2.660

Cost:
   £5,540 million / $22,161 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 71 tons, 0,1%
   Armour: 4.211 tons, 6,4%
      - Belts: 725 tons, 1,1%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.405 tons, 2,1%
      - Armament: 37 tons, 0,1%
      - Armour Deck: 2.043 tons, 3,1%
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0,0%
   Machinery: 1.217 tons, 1,9%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 54.412 tons, 83,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.070 tons, 7,7%
   Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 0,8%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3.050.780 lbs / 1.383.811 Kg = 36.438,3 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 3.378,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,00
   Metacentric height 13,9 ft / 4,2 m
   Roll period: 22,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,01
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,520
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,33 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 19 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      36,09 ft / 11,00 m
      - Forecastle (20%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Mid (20%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m (131,23 ft / 40,00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (17%):   32,81 ft / 10,00 m (131,23 ft / 40,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      32,81 ft / 10,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   93,90 ft / 28,62 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 10,8%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 1.713,5%
   Waterplane Area: 140.251 Square feet or 13.030 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 849%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 215 lbs/sq ft or 1.048 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,74
      - Longitudinal: 15,53
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Capeable of carrying 2 Airships up to 200 m in length and 24 m diameter (~60000 m³ --> Type 3)

[maddox]

I'm planning to visit the Zeppelin museum in Friedrichshaven sometime later this year.

Good idea it's a quite interesting place, it might even be multilingual.

It is , and I can read ,and understand spoken German. Babeth(Phoenix) is better in that respect, as she can write and speak it.

(maybe during the Conquering Europe Tour, when going for a visit of all European Nverse Members.)

But tell me beforehand, will you? I have to clean my room before that ;)

I don't have any problems with messy rooms. There is a reason our house is called House of Chaos.

Last year we had a very feeble attempt to gather at Borys families Dacha in Poland, but the timing was rather badly chosen.

On that 100 000 monster. It's a full military vessel, with a very very limited payload, not enough to say it can do more than shelter 2 airships, not maintaining or supplying even 1.

On the other hand, it's the best torpedo catcher I have seen with SS2 ever...

I'm afraid , even if the offer is tempting ,it would take 15 hy's to be build.

In mercantile version it should be more interesting I have to admit.  Just a 18 kts hull with a light hangar as superstructure, and a lot more misc weight, like 20 to 30 Ktons?

And, it's a mistake, the dock in marseilles, where Montmedie is buing build, is a type 5 drydock.

[Valles]

Nobody, I believe it was either the Shenandoah or the Los Angeles that the United States Navy successfully docked to a mast on a tender substantially smaller than it was, so clearly such dockings are, in fact, possible. I suspect that the procedure is to have both airship and tender match speed and course into the wind, so that events turn into something more like an aerial refueling docking. Likewise, I don't see why a segmented 'roof' shouldn't be possible, retracting like a garage door to either side.

Maddox, could you or one of your contemporaries expand on N2 (I'm guessing) airship operations and what was found so undesirable about them?

[Walter]

I'm afraid , even if the offer is tempting ,it would take 15 hy's to be build.

... and he could easily stretch the building time while France still has to pay the fixed 6 BP and 8 $ per HY. The longer it takes Orange to build it, the more France will have to pay for it. :D

[maddox]

Nobody, I believe it was either the Shenandoah or the Los Angeles that the United States Navy successfully docked to a mast on a tender substantially smaller than it was, so clearly such dockings are, in fact, possible. I suspect that the procedure is to have both airship and tender match speed and course into the wind, so that events turn into something more like an aerial refueling docking. Likewise, I don't see why a segmented 'roof' shouldn't be possible, retracting like a garage door to either side.

It was Patoka, an oiler rebuild as airship tender. But she couldn't do more than providing a moring mast and resupply consumables.  Helium, ballast, fuel and other things that keep the crew going. 

Maddox, could you or one of your contemporaries expand on N2 (I'm guessing) airship operations and what was found so undesirable about them?

See PM.

[Nobody]

Nobody, I believe it was either the Shenandoah or the Los Angeles that the United States Navy successfully docked to a mast on a tender substantially smaller than it was, so clearly such dockings are, in fact, possible. I suspect that the procedure is to have both airship and tender match speed and course into the wind, so that events turn into something more like an aerial refueling docking.

Of course anchor a large Zeppelin to a small ship, maybe even at sea state 2 - but not beyond that. I understood this more as a request for a mobile hangar which can give the airship shelter in bad weather - if securely fixed in it's position inside.

Likewise, I don't see why a segmented 'roof' shouldn't be possible, retracting like a garage door to either side.

Do you want do design a a 200 meter long and 30 to 60 m wide roof which can be opend on a ship - which would bend in heavy seas?(around 3:20)

I'm afraid , even if the offer is tempting ,it would take 15 hy's to be build.

... and he could easily stretch the building time while France still has to pay the fixed 6 BP and 8 $ per HY. The longer it takes Orange to build it, the more France will have to pay for it. :D

16 HYs actually(15.333...), and we would of course offer a contract with fixed delivery date.

On that 100 000 monster. It's a full military vessel, with a very very limited payload, not enough to say it can do more than shelter 2 airships, not maintaining or supplying even 1.

I'm sure I read before that it was not possible/allowed to build a carrier to mercantile standards and this is pretty much the same. Besides I didn't know yet, that you wanted a tender when I designed them.
Why not? I admit the misc isn't nearly as huge as the hull, but the hanger is part of the hull - which is the main problem of the ship btw - the airship itself weights nothing. Subtract some 50 t per movable mooring tower leaves some 100 t of cargo per airship enough for 6 (Type 3) to a dozed sorties (Type 2 Airship).

On the other hand, it's the best torpedo catcher I have seen with SS2 ever...

LOL I didn't see that during the design (I was too busy trying go get both seekeeping and stability above 1.0 while keeping steadiness above 70(slow roll!)), I remembered some 120 but not over 5000!

In mercantile version it should be more interesting I have to admit.  Just a 18 kts hull with a light hangar as superstructure, and a lot more misc weight, like 20 to 30 Ktons?

I tried to make it smaller the second version, which is hardly smaller, posted above was the outcome.
The problem is both the extra large hull and misc weight greatly reduce stability, how should I counter that? Armor, beam and fuel (which I didn't use so far because I didn't exceed the 6000 nm @ 16 kn requirement) can counter that and as long as you have no other idea there isn't much I can do about the size or the military standard.

Aeroflot 3, France Airship-carrier laid down 1920

Displacement:
   83.002 t light; 85.126 t standard; 96.005 t normal; 104.708 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   1.049,87 ft / 1.049,87 ft x 213,25 ft x 22,97 ft (normal load)
   320,00 m / 320,00 m x 65,00 m  x 7,00 m

Armament:
      8 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns in single mounts, 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1920 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all forward
      20 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1920 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, 12 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 709 lbs / 321 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 500

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured

   - Torpedo Bulkhead:
      1,18" / 30 mm   984,25 ft / 300,00 m   29,53 ft / 9,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm         -         1,97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Conning tower: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 46.101 shp / 34.392 Kw = 18,00 kts
   Range 14.000nm at 16,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 19.583 tons

Complement:
   2.726 - 3.545

Cost:
   £7,576 million / $30,303 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 89 tons, 0,1%
   Armour: 1.447 tons, 1,5%
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1.270 tons, 1,3%
      - Armament: 88 tons, 0,1%
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Conning Tower: 89 tons, 0,1%
   Machinery: 1.612 tons, 1,7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 69.854 tons, 72,8%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 13.003 tons, 13,5%
   Miscellaneous weights: 10.000 tons, 10,4%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1.937.626 lbs / 878.892 Kg = 23.142,9 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1.100,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,01
   Metacentric height 15,8 ft / 4,8 m
   Roll period: 22,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,02
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,654
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4,92 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 32,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 21 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Forecastle (10%):   32,81 ft / 10,00 m
      - Mid (19%):      32,81 ft / 10,00 m (147,64 ft / 45,00 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (17%):   49,21 ft / 15,00 m (147,64 ft / 45,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      49,21 ft / 15,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   109,35 ft / 33,33 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 21,4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 1.604,8%
   Waterplane Area: 172.063 Square feet or 15.985 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 624%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 220 lbs/sq ft or 1.072 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,71
      - Longitudinal: 20,50
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Capeable of carrying 2 airships up to 200 m in length and 25 m diameter (~70000 m³ --> Type 3) or 3 airships up to 200 m in length and 19 m diameter (~36000 m³ --> Type 2)

If buildable to tender rules OR offers this ship for 2 BP (shipbuilding steel) and $ 8 per HY to be paid over 16 HYs and delivery after 17 (because enlarging a dock/slip delays this by 7 months)

[maddox]

Glorious France would rather buy the design then from the OR, as France has the type 5 dock already available.

[Desertfox]

I don't mind France building this one bit! ;D

That said, why would you need an airship carrier? Airships are long legged enough that they can deploy wherever they want, while airship hangers are pretty cheap. A floating drydock type would probably be better than an SS2 design.